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They don't. I am married to a pulmonologist and have a kid in med school (3rd year--they just had a big lecture the other day about what's going on and what to look for in patients presenting with any kind of respiratory distress). They are talking about it, looking at x-rays, trying to find the common denominator--if there is one. There may be several. It's a very new phenomenon.
Then they document it and report to CDC. That's protocol. And by now, they all know to ask about the substance-in-question. Doctors also know that patients lie--especially those who live in states where the substance in question in illegal. Doctors are not total idiots.
But we're not talking about "eliquid" in the traditional sense. We're talking about thc extract. I don't think they contain pg or vg .
Very clueless. That word "mystified" was used a lot.
My 19 year old nephew (who doesn't vape) and his friends mentioned on FB black market carts were causing the problems.
Guess I should check his FB posts for info instead of listening to the "experts".
SHEESH.
Not Shenzhen. Shanzhai - Wikipedia Different thing entirely. Different word. Shenzhen is a level two city in China specializing in electronics. The word Shanzhai means literally “mountain fortress” or bandit, sort of. Counterfeit illegally produced products.
Bathtub gin would be Shanzhai
I get it, about the THC extract, but what about these latest rumors? I'm concerned about what my family members are purchasing.
I'll have to return tomorrow for this; I'm exhausted!
I hope I'm not asking an inappropriate question, if so I'll delete it. What does your significant other think of vaping, as a medical professional? Curious because I haven't personally talked to anyone in the medical field.They don't. I am married to a pulmonologist and have a kid in med school (3rd year--they just had a big lecture the other day about what's going on and what to look for in patients presenting with any kind of respiratory distress). They are talking about it, looking at x-rays, trying to find the common denominator--if there is one. There may be several. It's a very new phenomenon.
Then they document it and report to CDC. That's protocol. And by now, they all know to ask about the substance-in-question. Doctors also know that patients lie--especially those who live in states where the substance in question in illegal. Doctors are not total idiots.
He's always been supportive of my vaping. He used to smoke an occasional cigar himself, years ago, when he was young and unafraid, but after intensive training and subsequent board-certification in pulmonology, he stopped altogether, eventually.
When I discovered vaping in 2009, we both looked at the ingredients in e-liquids and he said, Go for it--I'm sure it's much, much better than smoking. He's still on board.
Oh, and a few days ago I get a card in the mail for a followup to my pulmonologist for a "re-check". Might end up being her PA. But anyway, I either have to walk in and get my own lecture, or stop vaping and use NRT. Then I'll be stuck with the lecture about "well, maybe stay on the NRT if you can".
Of course, maybe they'll figure this all out before my "re-check".
Which is pretty much going to go like "Let me listen...ok, any changes? No? Ok....see you in a year" if it wasn't for this crisis. Now we have to deal with that.
And if anything happens, I'm screwed because I don't follow CDC guidelines or doctor's advice, even though vaping saved my azz. The NRT's are hell on my digestive system, or just don't work for me.
This is the way of timeas we age. Different experts perhaps.
If you want the least amount of vapor use mostly PG. If you want the most vapor use mostly VG.
From my earliest days of vaping the hostility of public health institutions has been obvious to me and I've assumed the always reliable "follow the money" as the most plausible explanation. The vape deniers are ALL in fields that depend on public money, taxes, etc. It sucks to be in public health, you're like the Maytag repairman and ignored most of the time to boot so when you're moment comes you may have a chip on your shoulder. I've been watching video of health officials press conferences and hearings, etc., Canada and the US. It creeps me out. Something is wrong with them, internal conflicts. They aren't just indifferent to adult smokers, they're hostile. And their interest in kids seems forced, theatrical, contrived.
The delay pinpointing causes is because they want to scare as many people as possible for as long as possible to discourage as many people as possible from vaping--why? It's not just the money.
You're correcting someone who was correct, and that's not even relevant to the discussion anyway.
From the article:
I make my vapes about 50/50, and vapor production isn't my issue. My question is more about: is the VG or PG contaminated recently?
Don't worry...stock up on real vape supplies, like nic and atties. And don't vape weed based products, you & fam will be fine.
No. Really. If you're a DIY-er and know what's in your vape, you're fine. Really.
Well, let me be more accurate--you're 95% safer that you'd be if you were still smoking combustible cigarettes.
Still worried--read this--this is the best I have to offer ATM:
It's neither. PG and VG are commodity products made in the millions of gallons around the world annually. The batches would be huge and every one tested for contamination or not marketed for use by humans. Make sure you buy from a reputable source. That's how you buy groceries too, right? The bad THC cartridges have novel compounds added recently for purposes related to THC, not nicotine, that turn out to be unsuitable to inhale. I think it's safe to say e liquid ingredients are always, only, the usual 4. The way to be more certain--DIY
Hello, Zelda! They are correct. Black market carts are killing people--that's been established already. The question is which carts, exactly, and what substance, if one (there may be more than one), or a combination of substances, are responsible for causing those strange respiratory problems.
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