$120 Fine for Vaping In Starbucks

[MikeDeason]

I got a $120 fine for stealth vaping in Starbucks today. I was sitting with my wife by the window and taking (i thought discreet) hits off my pv when an officer walked up to my table and handed me a ticket. I showed him the PV and told him what it was and all he said was "tell it to the judge"

I will.

 

[IanK1968]

woweee, more tax dollars being wasted on stupidity. Take it to court and argue the technicalities of vaping vs smoking. You werent smoking so yo cant charge me by law, sorry judge.

 

[ec!gg]

Wow sorry to hear that. What a nice police officer

 

[lelly]

what does the ticket say the offense is? smoking in a public place?

 

[WiKiD]

The cop sounds like an idiot... And a jerk. Sorry, that's the nicest way I can put it.

Now I get the "He was just doing his job" line from someone. If he was doing his job, he would have investigated the matter further. Instead, he acted like a complete butthole and jumped to conclusions.

I am now ...... off for you. Lol

EDIT: Oops, I'm in a Canadian thread! *backs out of the room slowly*

 

[AlmightyGod]

That kinda sucks for you.

I tend to follow the self-imposed rule:
Don't vape where others can't smoke.

 

[IanK1968]

Toronto no smoking bylaw for restaurants.

* The Smoke-Free Ontario Act came into force on May 31, 2006.
* The Act prohibits smoking in enclosed workplaces and enclosed public places in Ontario in order to protect workers and the public from the hazards of second-hand smoke.
* In July 2009, the Act’s Regulation was amended to clarify the requirements as it pertains to outdoor patios of bars and restaurants.
* The Act prohibits smoking on an outdoor patio if any portion of a patio is covered or partially covered by a roof.

No where does it say vaping, vaporizers, electronic cigarettes. Vaping isnt smoking. THere is no combustion, no second hand smoke, no hazardous chemicals. so technically The bylaw doesn't exist for vaping. Tell that to the judge.

By April 2012 I bet my life savings the bylaw will include vaping. but until then, they cant charge you with smoking in a public place. But to avoid this just vape as if it where a cigarette until we win the fight vs health Canada.

 

[lawnman3]

what a azz clown that cop was .. he just didnt want to do the paper work ..like its hard work or something...


lawnman3...

 

[IanK1968]

why was a cop in starbucks........no wait stupid question

 

[sit.happens]

What kind of PV were you using? I read somewhere about someone using a white box mod and putting a medical sticker on it. You might be able to pass it off as a medical inhaler))

 

[IanK1968]

Smoking is a practice in which a substance, most commonly tobacco - You weren't using tobacco
is burned and the smoke is tasted or inhaled - you weren't burning anything or inhaling smoke
as combustion releases the active substances in drugs such as nicotine - there was no combustion
the act of blowing smoke out of yur mouth - there is no smoke it water!

Now where you smoking? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ask that to the judge, was I smoking your royal pain in the ...? he has to say no you where not.

 

[rolandpibb]

why was a cop in starbucks........no wait stupid question

It's not a stupid question. The question should be; Why wasn't he at Hortons?

Cops in my town call hortons "precinct 2" lol

Good luck MikeDeason, should be a no brainer

 

[IanK1968]

lol true Roland. guess he was a yuppie cop. Explains the reason why he was so .... retentive

 

[Switched]

I just love all Monday morning quarterback lawyers?

 

[IanK1968]

Switched was that a stab at me again?

 

[SABOTEUR]

Yeah...it sucks that you got a ticket, but I'm really not surprised. The cop seems to have caught a glimpse of some vapor. Although WE know it's not smoke, it looks enough like smoke to provoke challenges from people around us.

Few people are going to invest time identifying smokers from vapers. It's too inconvenient and threatens to escalate into disruptive situations business operators don't want to deal with. Far easier to ban smoking and anything that LOOKS like smoking and allow YOU...like the cop said...to explain it to the judge.

 

[Switched]

If the shoe fits wear it.

There has been several neophytes that have appeared of late that think they have the God given right to vape, and to vape where they please. I am not against the alternate lifestyle which I have embraced, but I am not in everyones face about it. I have been vaping for 13 months and I have vaped publicly everywhere I go for 13 months, when I feel like it. That being said I am not in anyones face about it.

While you folks question the legalities of the laws, well lets just say they are in place, and it takes an act of parliament to change them. You are always welcome to challenge them. I gave up along time ago because I got sick and tired of beating my head against the wall and nobody is supplying me with Tylenol for my headache.

I admire the enthusiasm displayed by the newly elected crowd, but at the same time come June we will have another bunch to deal with. You may not like my approach and I am fine with that. If I was to quote several folks here: I have the right to freedom of speech, and in all do respect if you don't like it change the channel. There is a political venue on this forum to discuss politics and the Canadian sub although might seem like the platform to do so is not the place.

In closing if you folks believe your latest tirade will bring any thing to fruition then by all means go for it. My glass is half full and I do intend to drink the latter half.

 

[IanK1968]

I accept your position Switched but there is no need to be an ...... about it switched. Let us find out for ourselves. So far your the only ...... Ive talked to on here

 

[hairball]

That stinks but hopefully the judge will understand the difference between smoking and vaping. However, don't count your chickens before they hatch. I wish you luck.

 

[Can_supplier]

Don't waste your time with the ticket, there is no way for them to enforce it anyhow if you don't pay.

Once the police decided to steal my beer. Was on the passenger side floor of a 2 door pickup. They said it was in reach, stole my beer (enjoy boys) and gave me a ticket. Never bothered to pay it, and there is really nothing that can do about it. Only thing with teeth is the Highway Traffic Act, because they can take your license away if you don't pay.