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$120 Fine for Vaping In Starbucks
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What kind of car is in your avatar?? WOW
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Somebody once said that arguing on the Internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win you're still ......ed. Words to live by.
Smoking has pretty much become socially unacceptable in most crowds, to those crowds vaping is smoking .. after all they see "smoke" right.
+1 for no vaping in a no smoking zone until such a time that vaping becomes .. how would you say .. socially acceptable.
Too with all the other issues we are facing we definitely don't need to be out there getting the anti's panties all twisted in a knot now do we?
I think we need all the friends we can get right now
+1 for no vaping in a no smoking zone until such a time that vaping becomes .. how would you say .. socially acceptable.
Too with all the other issues we are facing we definitely don't need to be out there getting the anti's panties all twisted in a knot now do we?
I think we need all the friends we can get right now
That is pretty odd, no warning from the cop, not even from the starbucks employees/managers. I'd say the only thing not in your favor is that you didn't ask starbucks if you could vape. Even if it's just vapor and not real smoking, any company can forbid the use of these in their places. It's their company and it's their floor, they can do whatever they want. But you should still win and not pay the fine depending on what exactly is written on the ticket.
Make sure to let us know the outcome of it after the trial, it will be much interesting.
And for all those complaining that story like these repeats, just don't read them and go do something else.
I read every day, but just haven't been inspired to post. Fell of the wagon awhile ago, but I feel good things coming soon
Dang! Sorry to hear that. I hope you can find your way back on it. Mind you as you read of late it seems like more difficult times are ahead. The script from my DR seems to have provided me with the missing alkaloids most craved, but then again YMMV. I wish you all the best my friend. Still enjoy seeing that avatar
I try to ask or explain first. it's common courtesy. cops sees you hiding your actions and assumes the worst... why hide something if there is nothing wrong with what you are doing? cops have jobs to do. you look at it from his perspective and he wasn't really being the ... some are making him out to be.
tonight I am in a non smokers home. I said I won't puff the cigar as it has a lingering smell. some like my 82 yr old mom like it, some don't. by the end of tonight I am handing out a business card for them to give to someone
someone said something to me long ago that has deeply affected the way I approach many things
"better to be consulted than insulted"
tonight I am in a non smokers home. I said I won't puff the cigar as it has a lingering smell. some like my 82 yr old mom like it, some don't. by the end of tonight I am handing out a business card for them to give to someone
someone said something to me long ago that has deeply affected the way I approach many things
"better to be consulted than insulted"
Smoking has pretty much become socially unacceptable in most crowds, to those crowds vaping is smoking .. after all they see "smoke" right.
+1 for no vaping in a no smoking zone until such a time that vaping becomes .. how would you say .. socially acceptable.
Too with all the other issues we are facing we definitely don't need to be out there getting the anti's panties all twisted in a knot now do we?
I think we need all the friends we can get right now
+1 Stewie. It is the act of smoking that has become repulsive to others, not what is coming out of it. I get asked all the time as my wife. Shouldn't he be off of those already? The answer, he is not there yet.
Not necessarily. I lost my original answer and don't fell like re-typing it but you have a PM inbound...
I read somewhere about someone using a white box mod and putting a medical sticker on it. You might be able to pass it off as a medical inhaler
LOL ... then it will really look like a drug delivery device!! Maybe we need to put stickers and bicycle tassles on them and anything else that we can think of
Same here. There are enough idiots out there who are offended by the concept of smoking.... as they sip their mega caffeinated coffees..
...Too with all the other issues we are facing we definitely don't need to be out there getting the anti's panties all twisted in a knot now do we?
I think we need all the friends we can get right now
My thoughts also. Non-smokers have the upper hand on all of this right now. They have laws and social opinions on their side... I see no reason to stoke their furnace which is all that will happen if one 'gets in their face about it'... while the legal issues may have holes in it at this point, they will plug them simply by adding PV's into the existing laws, regardless of the true facts about them.
I was the 1st person to introduce e-cigs where I work. I had many people interested in switching over and some actually did... Of course, some decided to take it to the extreme and started vaping on the factory floor... which caused a fan spray of offal... and the company immediately revised their tobacco policy to include e-cigs... as is their right...
And when it really comes down to it, while my life has changed by switching to e-cigs, it doesn't change anything in the real world of hypocrites and those who want to tell others what and how to do everything... as long as it doesn't affect all of their 'vices'
On every forum I've been on, there is always a small group of 'old members' who like to pick on the 'new class', ignoring their opinions, putting them down, etc. I guess we should have joined last year, then we wouldn't be such a bunch of dumbasses. 
You do know this is a charge under some by-law, not a charge for murder..
1st you don't have to appear anywhere, unless you request a trial for the matter. If you don't show, they couldn't care less, the find you guilt end of story. If you think they are issuing bench warrants for $120 fines you are sadly mistaken. You do know the guys you see on Cops taken in on outstanding warrents, those are not for not paying a fine over a by-law..
If you don't pay it, they are not going to throw you in jail over $120. Don't believe me, read the back of the ticket.. "Failure to pay may result in collections actions blaa blaa blaa" Its certainly not them that are trying to convey the false notion that you will be jailed over this matter.
Worst case, you don't pay, they send it to collections. There is no method collections can use to recover the money that won't cost 100X more than the $120 they hope to recover. Anything under $10,000 is not practical to recover other than that threatening letter and phone call. Ignore the phone call, if that even happens, end of story. Its not even worth their time and effort to report it on your credit report.
The false belief that every stupid law is enforceable, with something as far fetched as jail time, is part of the reason they are written in the first place. I say it again, it has no teeth, you want to think it does and donate your money, power to ya, personally I like to get tax receipts for my donations
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