1st two qustions now that i have said "hi"

[swedishfish]

Hi, I'm new to this as well, and I had the same sort of question, smoked analogs for ten years, up to about a pack a day, then my wife got me a "mall brand" auto-bat, carto-unit, I actually like it, tastes better, doesn't stink, and I can vape at church in the hallway. I finished my last pack 3 days ago, and got one smoke off a friend 2 days ago, and now vaping only. Thing is I like to take long, hard, draw and am used to the smoke hitting the back of my throat like a base-ball bat, this is way to iffy, I have had to change my draw style, and TH some time like a dream, and others like I had flicked the ember off my analog and didn't know it. Very disappointing sometimes, thinking about going to a Joye ego-T type-C. Are there tips that will allow me to have a harder draw, and more reliable TH.

I wouldn't recommend an ego-T for your style of smoking. At all.

I'd get the Riva ego from Liberty Flights that Hairball recommend with some boge 2.0 cartomizers. Don't forget the cartomizers. Get yourself some really good juice from a juice vendor.

The ego tanks tend to mute flavors and if you draw to hard it doesn't wick quickly enough and you'll get horrible dry vapes.

 

[FoamerDave]

Wow thanks for all the reply's. I'll give the man a go. I kind of thought it would be fast to learn. Fat bat is a must from what I have read. I want to vape not charge bats. Now for the cartomizers, for a light draw good vape do I go low or high ohm? I know the lower the ohm the biger bat I need and the hotter the vape will be but dose it effect how hard you have to draw?

 

[Lyle Devine]

"I'd get the Riva ego from Liberty Flights that Hairball recommend with some boge 2.0 cartomizers. Don't forget the cartomizers."

I read the differant reviews on manufactures, carts v. tanks v. drip tips, but what is the point of mix and matching brands?just wondering... I was thinking I would like to stay away from units that combine atomizer and cart, as I don't like the idea of throwing away an atomizer once the cart has gone bad, I am kinda a tree hugger so want to not waste anything.

But to talk a bit about the 510 platforms what are the benefits of a Riva over an Joye, or Boge... I am a buy something once kind of guy so I will be kitting up in a few months, assembling a wish list at the moment and you just informed me that what I was planing on (and put hours of research into...lol) wont work the way I want. Darn. I also would like something that is the size of a med. size cigar, that will fit nicely in my shirt pocket, battery that lasts all day, manual activation, and I liked the idea of a pipe tip or flat tip... Sorry if my posts are short essays.

 

[wv2win]

EGo is only 3.4 volts where as the Riva, Kgo and E-Power 510 are all 3.7 volt models. If you really want good TH, however, many of us use either 5 volt models or variable volt models. They provide the best throat hit and consistency. In this category, I would look at the GLV2 from Great Lakes Vapor or the power regulated, variable wattage Darwin from nhaler.com.

 

[mikeproctor]

Ok, I'll go against the grain and say get an auto smokeless image or bloog or halo etc. I started with an ego with a button but when you get tired of playing with all the stuff and just want to vape go with one of the newer KR808 types. The reason my first kit was an ego was because I found this forum before I purchased. Everyone says get an ego with a manual but I think volt,bloog etc provides a better experience for people who want to vape to replace smoking as opposed to a new hobby that is about fiddling with equipment. Of course when I got my first kit the ego with a manual was the best choice since the auto KR808 stuff didn't work very good. Well now they have fixed them and they work great.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi and welcome to ECF. I'd also recommend the manual batt with the Riva. Less chance of damage to the batt from juice and put YOU in control of the vaping experience. ohms won't affect the draw and the lower the ohm the hotter the vape. Also with tanks these is a learning curve- friends that I've converted began with the cartos and after getting used to their gear and the various juices they have now graduated to the tank system. It's cheap and easy to add on a tank later.
Good Luck, Vapoor.
P.S. you'll prolly want to stay away from pre filled cartos as the taste and quality is not usually very good and iy's very easy to fill your own cartos- for on the road I suggest a Tic Tac Container to hold extra cartos.

 

[mooreted]

I'm an on-site computer technician. I drive all day long. I use an Indulgence V3 with an 18650 2600 Mah battery that keeps a charge for over 30 hours. Attached to it is a carto tank with about 5ml of juice in it so I don't have to fill anything for the day. I put it in the depression in the driver's side door used for closing the door when you get in so it's handy when I want to take a few puffs. This is the most fuss-free setup I've ever used.

 

[araczynski]

you'll want to go manual battery, the autos still seem flaky. pushing the button will be second nature in a day or two.

as for hard draw, i'm no expert, but i think as long as you match the proper resistance of atomizer/cartomizer to the battery power voltage, you shouldn't have to draw hard on anything.

the only 'catch' is that vaping is not a one second pull as it is in the analogs. the consensus is that you'll want to fire the battery one or two seconds before you start dragging and then keep the battery pressed for 3-5 second more while lightly drawing in.

if you do this you should have no issues with sucking in liquid or not getting enough vape.

 

[Jim Bob]

Manual and high mAh if possible both my E-go batts are 1000 mAh and last great even with 2 ohm Boge Cartos! I had ZERO issues with using a manual it's so simple even a "cave gal " could do it !

 

[murrajes]

I love to press the button!

 

[wv2win]

Ok, I'll go against the grain and say get an auto smokeless image or bloog or halo etc. I started with an ego with a button but when you get tired of playing with all the stuff and just want to vape go with one of the newer KR808 types. The reason my first kit was an ego was because I found this forum before I purchased. Everyone says get an ego with a manual but I think volt,bloog etc provides a better experience for people who want to vape to replace smoking as opposed to a new hobby that is about fiddling with equipment. Of course when I got my first kit the ego with a manual was the best choice since the auto KR808 stuff didn't work very good. Well now they have fixed them and they work great.

He's a TWO pack a day smoker. Why would he want to mess with mini-batteries that provide 1 to 1 and half hours on a charge?? With manual batteries you also get complete control, no cut-offs, no fear of liquid killing the battery and warmer vapor. And if you or someone else states they get 4+ hours on mini-batteries, then they are very light vapers or they aren't being honest. The physics of battery technology cannot be changed just because it is in a PV.

Based on the OP's job and smoking history, I would re-suggest that he strongly look at a good variable volt or 5 volt model. At a minimum start with a 1000+ mAh battery model such as some that have already been recommended.

 

[mikeproctor]

He's a TWO pack a day smoker. Why would he want to mess with mini-batteries that provide 1 to 1 and half hours on a charge?? With manual batteries you also get complete control, no cut-offs, no fear of liquid killing the battery and warmer vapor. And if you or someone else states they get 4+ hours on mini-batteries, then they are very light vapers or they aren't being honest. The physics of battery technology cannot be changed just because it is in a PV.

Based on the OP's job and smoking history, I would re-suggest that he strongly look at a good variable volt or 5 volt model. At a minimum start with a 1000+ mAh battery model such as some that have already been recommended.

The 78mm volt batteries are 320mah which is about 3 hours of vaping. Go back and read the last sentence of the OP's post, that's why I would recommend one of the newer 808s. The horziontal coil on the cartos helps too.

 

[Vapeterry]

The best fiddle-free PV choice i made as a newbe was buying a Darwin!

 

[wv2win]

The 78mm volt batteries are 320mah which is about 3 hours of vaping. Go back and read the last sentence of the OP's post, that's why I would recommend one of the newer 808s. The horziontal coil on the cartos helps too.

Being in an automobile 10 hours a day, I know I don't want to fool with constantly changing batteries. Even at 320 mAh, that's 3 hours of "LIGHT" vaping. Plus you can't use dual coil cartomizers with the mini-battery models. And if you stick a LR atty/carto on it, you cut your battery time in half. And these models also suffer from "battery drain". The last half of the charge cycle is not nearly as good as the first half. It's why so many of us have moved to regulated, boost circuit models that loose no power as the battery drains.

My 1800 mAh battery model gives me 21 hours of heavy vaping on a charge. With dual coils it provides 12 - 13 hours on a charge. For someone who is a heavy smoker and heavy vaper, 3 hours is peanuts, which in reality, for a heavy vaper, translates to 90 minutes of vape time. Not to mention the number of expensive batteries one would have to buy, keep charged and carry if they are on the road 8, 10 or 12 hours. Why spend $10 - $20 on batteries when you can get ones that are three times better for $4?

I stand by my orginal recommendation. I only recommed mini-battery models to those who state they are very light, social smokers. The mini's probably do fine for them.

 

[mikeproctor]

And these models also suffer from "battery drain". The last half of the charge cycle is not nearly as good as the first half. It's why so many of us have moved to regulated, boost circuit models that loose no power as the battery drains.

This is wrong. The Volt, Bloog and Halo all use regulated batteries that put out something like 3.7 volts. You don't need dual coils because the battery is matched to the carto to provide a good vape. I get some where between 2-3 hours of HEAVY vaping out of a 78mm volt battery. You could make a 10 hour trip in an automobile with 5 volts already put together and not have to hold a flashlight in your hand the whole time. When one dies put it down and pick up a new one. The appeal of the volt is that it is like holding a pen (or an analog) and pretty much stays in my hand all the time. You can also vape hands free by holding it in your lips like an analog.

Is it cheaper than an 1800 mAh $4 battery, no. But to some people the vaping experience is worth a lot and I don't mind paying $15 for a regulated 320mAh battery in the color of my choice. I think part of the reason I got my wife to even look at an ecig is because I presented her with pink battery.

I also wasn't trying to put down your recommendation. I was only offering a different one. Life is about choices (if we're lucky).

 

[wv2win]

This is wrong. The Volt, Bloog and Halo all use regulated batteries that put out something like 3.7 volts. You don't need dual coils because the battery is matched to the carto to provide a good vape. I get some where between 2-3 hours of HEAVY vaping out of a 78mm volt battery. You could make a 10 hour trip in an automobile with 5 volts already put together and not have to hold a flashlight in your hand the whole time. When one dies put it down and pick up a new one. The appeal of the volt is that it is like holding a pen (or an analog) and pretty much stays in my hand all the time. You can also vape hands free by holding it in your lips like an analog.

Is it cheaper than an 1800 mAh $4 battery, no. But to some people the vaping experience is worth a lot and I don't mind paying $15 for a regulated 320mAh battery in the color of my choice. I think part of the reason I got my wife to even look at an ecig is because I presented her with pink battery.

I also wasn't trying to put down your recommendation. I was only offering a different one. Life is about choices (if we're lucky).

Didn't mean to come off too strong and apologize if I did. And nothing wrong with options. I just don't see how your option is the best one for a strong smoker. There is a reason why the majority of us move to stronger battery and manual battery options and prefer them. I do recommend the Volt and Bloog to "light" smokers. But the plain and simple fact is that the Volt cannot provide the throat hit of better battery options and definitely cannot match the battery life of any 1000+ mAh battery. I was a pack and a half a day smoker and when I used a 300 mAh battery, it lasted me an hour or a little more. For most, less hassle and warmer vapor comes with better batteries that will last 6 - 12 hours on a charge. I would rather make recommendations that statistically gives the OP the better chance of making the transition to vaping without needing to constantly upgrade to another model.

 

[mikeproctor]

Didn't mean to come off too strong and apologize if I did. And nothing wrong with options. I just don't see how your option is the best one for a strong smoker. There is a reason why the majority of us move to stronger battery and manual battery options and prefer them. I do recommend the Volt and Bloog to "light" smokers. But the plain and simple fact is that the Volt cannot provide the throat hit of better battery options and definitely cannot match the battery life of any 1000+ mAh battery. I was a pack and a half a day smoker and when I used a 300 mAh battery, it lasted me an hour or a little more. For most, less hassle and warmer vapor comes with better batteries that will last 6 - 12 hours on a charge. I would rather make recommendations that statistically gives the OP the better chance of making the transition to vaping without needing to constantly upgrade to another model.

Have you actually tried one of the newer 808s either the volt, bloog or halo? I understand that the old cig style ecigs were junk and did not give you much throat hit. But the volt and bloog specifically since I have tried both put out an incredible amount of vapor and throat hit. I have sitting here beside me 6 (that I can see) 1000mAh+ batteries and a 5v box mod along with 1.25ohm dual coils, ce2, tank atties, regular atties, mega dual coils and probably some other stuff that I've forgotten about and the thing I reach for is my volt. The new 808 stuff is good, I'm telling ya

 

[brandontrjn]

I began with auto's and have been completely happy. I also used to drive and found that manuals were a little distracting. Finding the button took some of my attention away from the road. Many people on ECF prefer manuals for the extra control it provides but an auto battery is the ONLY way to not have to think about taking a hit. I just leave it in my mouth and vape for a bit then set it in my lap or cup holder.

I started with smoketip (ST) but they don't supply enough options for re-charging. I use VapeShot (VS) products now, they come with a charge pack and a USB charger for the batteries for the price of the smoketip kit (With a discount code). It takes a little more effort to "hit" the VS ecig but that's fine to me. I found the ST to be WAY to easy to puff on and made it whistle for the first month I had it.

If you're driving all day you'll need a car charger for sure. The charge pack for the VS kit recharges my bats like 4 times from dead and I would definitely use more than that if I drove for 8 hours (I assume you drive truck or are on the road all day by your post).

Good luck!

 

[swedishfish]

I've used them. You get a good vape, but I don't think it compares in any way to a higher volt or big battery with a low resistance cartomizer. There's really no comparison with a 4.2 v echo-e battery with LR carto to a KR808. Not that there's anything wrong with that. The 'new' horizontal coil concept they all tout isn't new btw. The SLB, joye cartomizers and the joye mega cartomize have always been horizontal coil.

I have a 510 mini I use sometimes too and like it. My mom has a volt, v4l batteries I've used. But really, cost, convenience and better vape with a bigger battery model.

And to say to someone that's probably never seen them that they're like a flashlight is pretty misleading. The ego with the 750 mah battery is the same size as a KR808, just a little fatter. It's smaller than the KR808 with XL batteries.

 

[swedishfish]

I began with auto's and have been completely happy. I also used to drive and found that manuals were a little distracting. Finding the button took some of my attention away from the road. Many people on ECF prefer manuals for the extra control it provides but an auto battery is the ONLY way to not have to think about taking a hit. I just leave it in my mouth and vape for a bit then set it in my lap or cup holder.

I started with smoketip (ST) but they don't supply enough options for re-charging. I use VapeShot (VS) products now, they come with a charge pack and a USB charger for the batteries for the price of the smoketip kit (With a discount code). It takes a little more effort to "hit" the VS ecig but that's fine to me. I found the ST to be WAY to easy to puff on and made it whistle for the first month I had it.

If you're driving all day you'll need a car charger for sure. The charge pack for the VS kit recharges my bats like 4 times from dead and I would definitely use more than that if I drove for 8 hours (I assume you drive truck or are on the road all day by your post).

Good luck!

If your happy that's great. If you want a big battery automatic, the go go and echo are 1100 mah batteries and they come in automatic. The cartomizer that comes with them holds 3.5 ml of juice and are meant to be cleaned and reused. They say 100 refills. Just something to think about if you're ever looking for a new kit. I think Cropduster has them for about $45.

This isn't bad for the car. I have a janty stick but this is similiar, just a KR808. Plug it into the car charger. It's super small.
My janty is about 2 1/2" long and 1" wide.

Nomad 808 (Janty stick) - $24.95 : Cropduster901!, Home of the B-52