2 years... down the drain.
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not even going down that road, ive said enough on the subject.
regardless, i was fighting for my right to vape - even if the underlying problem was the kid just didnt like me specificaly.
i didnt expect, sharing a story of me standing up for my right to vape would cause a problem here either.
sorry that my sharing of the incident on the other thread for the OP, turned into a huge debacle
also sorry that i caused any ill feelings to whom ever with anything ive said. im just getting real sick and tired of being told to not vape because its poison or w/e by everyone.
these last 2 years vaping have ben hell socially...
defdock, I didn't read your last thread, but you've got some really good advice in this one which you are ignoring. I don't know you, but I think you're feeling attacked and being defensive because of that. Because I don't know you, I don't now why you're reacting this way.
IMO if you want a meaningful discussion you will have to find a way to leave the baggage behind to allow you to move forward. If you do not do this you will just not get what people are trying to communicate to you.
I know, doing this stuff isn't easy.
Hang in and best of luck with it.
IMO if you want a meaningful discussion you will have to find a way to leave the baggage behind to allow you to move forward. If you do not do this you will just not get what people are trying to communicate to you.
I know, doing this stuff isn't easy.
Hang in and best of luck with it.
Everyone I know who thinks they know what's good for me keeps referencing that formaldehyde story. I got defensive at first, now I just ask them if they know what it is, how it's present, and what it's effects are. They don't know. So then I tell them, if you don't know what you're talking about why are you talking about it?
Anyways, yeah.. People say Oh arent those unhealthy? When are you quitting? You really like that better than cigarettes? Blah blah blah. It's annoying, but I'm not gonna switch back to cigs just to make them feel better about my health...
Anyways, yeah.. People say Oh arent those unhealthy? When are you quitting? You really like that better than cigarettes? Blah blah blah. It's annoying, but I'm not gonna switch back to cigs just to make them feel better about my health...
Sounds as if you don't need another cross to bare, you don't have to smoke or vape or defend smoking or vaping. If I was young again I would defend the right to breath fresh, clean air and chase more girls instead of going to Sunday school on Saturdays and singing in choirs to make a few $$
Good luck
Good luck
Duuuuuuude. Seriously...This is NOT a "fighting for your right to vape" story. What many others are trying to tell you, can essentially be distilled down to two words. Grow up.
You smoking, or vaping, or doing neither has no effect on any of us, because we don't know you. You have to decide. But this isn't even about smoking, or vaping, or doing neither, it's about you. It's time to decide how you want to live your life. You can let every little thing that anyone does to you send you spiraling out of control, in which case you last 2 years of "social hell" will go on for the rest of your life. Or you can choose a different path, and decided for yourself what you want, what you need, and how to surround yourself with people who can support that. The choice is yours, and yours alone.
Best of luck to you.
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It sounds frustrating. And also sounds like you need to phase out some people from your life. Anyone that's going to attack you for making a healthy choice and not listen to what you have to say about it isn't worth your time anyways. It sucks, but I've had to remove people like that from my life. It hurts for awhile, but you'll be happier in the long run. Those people aren't your friends anyways. And you gotta do what's right for you and not for everyone else. My life socially since vaping has been one of sharing, teaching, converting and feeling supported that even if some people are unsure, they also trust me enough to know I'd do the research before switching from smoking to this. But like I said... I phased out all the .......s years ago.
Hi. Please don't get discouraged.Remember, your doing this for YOU, not for other people! I've gotten all those comments too. I've even had someone tell me how ridiculous my box mod looked while I vaped it. But I've came to the conclusion that other people can take a flying leap (to put it nicely) remember , your doing 3w_w very great for your self! DO NOT let others make you feel bad ! we are here to help if you need help! Togethr we all are strong! Hang in there and keep fighting the good fight. You can do it! And don't pay any mind to to the people who just want to bring you down and see you fail! Show them they are wrong! Best wishes
IMO, I think you should go back to vaping the e-juice you like and stop hanging out or helping friends of friends who are jerks. Life is too short to spend it dealing with jerks you don't need to. Because you were in his home, unfortunately for you, he has the right to do that. If you feel he was disrespecting you, you shouldn't hang out or offer to help him again. Phase out the jerks, they're not actual friends.
Whether the guy tried to lay blame on his parents or not, you were told to stop. Grow up and get used to the word no. If you were in my house, not only would I show you the door, I'd shove you through it. It's called being disrespectful. You sound like a spoiled 21 year old who is a whuss with a capital P.
defdock, after reading this thread at first i felt bad for you but after page three or so of this thread it started to become clear. They are not making you feel uncomfortable because you vape, they are doing it because your an ... and they dont want you around. After reading just this one thread of yours, I kinda agree with them.
Can't believe this made it to 8 pages when the problem obviously isn't vaping it's the op and his attitude and behaviour vaping is his easiest excuse for the reactions he's getting. Also this is not an advocacy for vaping issue either as by your own words another vaper is perfectly welcome and has none of the trouble you seem to be attracting when two vapers are present and only one is getting hassle it clearly isn't because of vaping in general. Look to be honest it sounds as though you are a little entitled and precious and others are responding to that and you don't like it. Time to find a new social circle and time for you to change your attitude and realise the world isn't going to bend to your will and isn't going to give you what you want on a plate, I have over the years I've been vaping encountered opposition as a lot of us on here have and we have dealt with it in our own way none of which has been to come on here and stamp our feet and try to get people feeling sorry for us by saying "I'm going back to tobacco".
Normally I sympathise with people struggling with vaping and will do what I can to help but in this case it isn't vaping thats the issue it's clearly you and none of us on here can do much but make it clear that the problem isn't your vaping it's your attitude.
Normally I sympathise with people struggling with vaping and will do what I can to help but in this case it isn't vaping thats the issue it's clearly you and none of us on here can do much but make it clear that the problem isn't your vaping it's your attitude.
Screw all the petty stuff in this whole story in both threads, I want to hear about the important stuff!
So what is this movie you all are working on?
So what is this movie you all are working on?
no one disrespects me over and over period.
unless i'm a teeny bopper still living at home.
mike
attitude, brought in by "felow vapers" after i shared a story - was even told they would punch me in the face.
i cant say it enough, im sorry i stood up for my right to vape - regardless if it was in someone elses house, or the problem was just "my attitude"
when your told over the course of a few months to quit vaping, and you change the habit to accommodate that persons beleives - come to find out its not the vapor and just dislikes me - im willing to bet at least a few of you would have acted the same way.
you want the story - you can find it here
sorry for being whatever words you guys used to describe me. - i didnt expect to become a problem.
i cant say it enough, im sorry i stood up for my right to vape - regardless if it was in someone elses house, or the problem was just "my attitude"
when your told over the course of a few months to quit vaping, and you change the habit to accommodate that persons beleives - come to find out its not the vapor and just dislikes me - im willing to bet at least a few of you would have acted the same way.
you want the story - you can find it here
sorry for being whatever words you guys used to describe me. - i didnt expect to become a problem.
Yes, I would respect that person. But I would do that because I believe in respecting all people whether they know how to behave properly or not.
Are you being forced to subject yourself to such a person (do they live in your home &/or you can't avoid them)? Why choose to spend time with people who don't share the same value system as you? By your descriptions, the person in question seems to have an issue with you and not vaping in general. Why are you even bothering with this person? Why does their opinion or approval even matter? Just wondering because it doesn't make sense to me.
Defdock, you need to understand that no one needs a reason to ask you to stop doing something in their home. They don't need to tell you why, just to stop. While VG might be safe, there ARE some people that have sensitivities/allergies to it, and while rare and while this might not be the case, who knows? Because it was his home, you should have respected him and not kept pushing on and trying to educate him when he didn't care.
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