Do what i do , just say "obviously you have mistaken me for somebody who actually gives a damn what you think" , maybe not very subtle, but i'm not a subtle guy.
2 years... down the drain.
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Hey OP, this song helped me through some terrible terrible times. Dont quit vaping. Enjoy.
PS : Dont let anyone tell you its not okay to cry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idFJkZQmN38
PS : Dont let anyone tell you its not okay to cry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idFJkZQmN38
Well in the spirit of vaping and helping a fellow vapor, here are my two cents ...
To the OP, from what I read, I can't really tell exactly what is going on (and not asking you repeat it), but it sounds there is a lesson that can be learned from all this. The best I can say is respect the wishes of the person's house you're in, no questions asked. I wouldn't recommend going tit for tat on what other people are doing. You're never going to win that argument, especially if their mind is made up. If someone expresses they wish you to stop vaping while you're in their house, you listen, end of story. But if you absolutely must, in a very polite and cordial tone, ask them something along the lines of "You wish for me to stop vaping while in your house, absolutely ... happy to oblige. Just out of curiosity, if the issue is the amount of vapor I'm producing, would you be okay if I vaped on something that produces very little vapor?" ... If they say yes, vape on something that produces little vapor and case closed. If they so no, don't vape anything and case closed. Hold your tongue and just wait till you leave to vape.
Here are some rules I follow when vaping outside of my house.
- Never vape indoors in a public places.
Inside restaurants, malls, coffee shops, movie theaters,etc are off limits. Why? Quite simply, it's not considerate to those who don't vape. Can I be the big bad pro vaper, who tries to impose his views about vaping to those that hate it? Sure, I can do that ... But then I'm "that guy". You know the smug and douchey vapor that thinks he's above everyone because vaping is "healthier than smoking". To me this is immature. Can I get away with it? Maybe. But why not just be courteous and vape on your own time.
- When at a friends house, either don't vape or vape outside.
I have a few friends and I would never vape in their house. One of them used to be an ex smoker, and said he didn't mind if I did. However, because I'm usually with other people while at his house, I don't hesitate to go outside, simply out of consideration.
- Leave the fog machines home - Own a smaller device that produces less vapor.
We all love our fog machines. Dripping, rebuildables and producing gobs of vapor is all good fun. But these devices have no business in public places. I can vape in my office at work when I close the door. I vape a little bit simply because I don't want to over power my office with the smell of grape, tobacco or any flavor I happen to be vaping. I would certainly never bring my subtank to work and hit it at 25 watts. That's for when I'm home or with vaping friends. When I'm out, my concern is making sure I have nicotine, not how much attention I can get by blowing clouds.
There's just a few, but the on-going theme is consideration and being friendly and polite. You will usually get it in return and if not, perhaps it's time to move on. Personally, I hope you don't quit vaping simply because smoking is more dangerous. I also hope that you can find a way to make vaping work in your world. But in the end, it's your life so ... do what you got to do.
To the OP, from what I read, I can't really tell exactly what is going on (and not asking you repeat it), but it sounds there is a lesson that can be learned from all this. The best I can say is respect the wishes of the person's house you're in, no questions asked. I wouldn't recommend going tit for tat on what other people are doing. You're never going to win that argument, especially if their mind is made up. If someone expresses they wish you to stop vaping while you're in their house, you listen, end of story. But if you absolutely must, in a very polite and cordial tone, ask them something along the lines of "You wish for me to stop vaping while in your house, absolutely ... happy to oblige. Just out of curiosity, if the issue is the amount of vapor I'm producing, would you be okay if I vaped on something that produces very little vapor?" ... If they say yes, vape on something that produces little vapor and case closed. If they so no, don't vape anything and case closed. Hold your tongue and just wait till you leave to vape.
Here are some rules I follow when vaping outside of my house.
- Never vape indoors in a public places.
Inside restaurants, malls, coffee shops, movie theaters,etc are off limits. Why? Quite simply, it's not considerate to those who don't vape. Can I be the big bad pro vaper, who tries to impose his views about vaping to those that hate it? Sure, I can do that ... But then I'm "that guy". You know the smug and douchey vapor that thinks he's above everyone because vaping is "healthier than smoking". To me this is immature. Can I get away with it? Maybe. But why not just be courteous and vape on your own time.
- When at a friends house, either don't vape or vape outside.
I have a few friends and I would never vape in their house. One of them used to be an ex smoker, and said he didn't mind if I did. However, because I'm usually with other people while at his house, I don't hesitate to go outside, simply out of consideration.
- Leave the fog machines home - Own a smaller device that produces less vapor.
We all love our fog machines. Dripping, rebuildables and producing gobs of vapor is all good fun. But these devices have no business in public places. I can vape in my office at work when I close the door. I vape a little bit simply because I don't want to over power my office with the smell of grape, tobacco or any flavor I happen to be vaping. I would certainly never bring my subtank to work and hit it at 25 watts. That's for when I'm home or with vaping friends. When I'm out, my concern is making sure I have nicotine, not how much attention I can get by blowing clouds.
There's just a few, but the on-going theme is consideration and being friendly and polite. You will usually get it in return and if not, perhaps it's time to move on. Personally, I hope you don't quit vaping simply because smoking is more dangerous. I also hope that you can find a way to make vaping work in your world. But in the end, it's your life so ... do what you got to do.
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You are mistaken. I read your reply on another thread. No one makes you feel like anything. People may say things to you but only YOU can let those words make you feel anything or have any meaning to you.
Do not use other people as an excuse to go back to smoking and stop being so sensative. Make your choice, whatever that may be, becuse it is your choice. Do not blame others for it.
Your claiming that you are going back to smoking because of what people have said to you about vaping.. yet your here on this forum and I am pretty certain many people here support your vaping. That does not count?
In reality it should not matter at all to you what other people think. I would hope that you quit smoking for yourself, for your health.
So please take no offense when I tell you to stop feeling sorry for yourself and make your choices for your own happiness.
Me too. I do most of my vaping at home and in my truck. Or outside. People who have seen me vaping have mostly ignored it, once in a while someone was interested and asked questions. A handful of times people I knew have said stuff along the lines of, doesn't that stuff have formaldehyde in it. But they weren't criticizing, just trying to be helpful as far as I could tell. I think you would have to work quite hard to generate antagonism, unless you bump into a genuine zealot, in which case I would walk away because I have better things to do than argue with zealots.
Yeah that's funny, and true. The older you get the more I think you tend to walk away from stupid rather than confronting it. You realize nothing you do will change it. I can vaguely remember being young and having a hair trigger. Somewhere along the line I stopped worrying about what other people thought.
So Defdock, look on the bright side. In 50 years or so you'll be like us. And you are way more likely to make it that far if you stay off the cigs. Good luck with it all anyway.
Sweetie, You did not stand up for your right to vape. That is not the problem here. You were a guest in anothers home.. He requested that you not vape around him. The reason does not matter.
It does not matter that the house belongs to his parents who smoke pipes or that someone else was permitted to vape. He lives there so it is his house.
This issue is NOT about vaping ... it is about your manners or lack thereof.
IMO you are seriously over reacting. You shared your story thus opening it up for comments. You do not like our comments.
Bottom line you are the guest of whom ever invites you to the home. If that person offers coffee to everyone and then tells you that you cannot have any? It is there house. Leave the house. You do not then go grab a cup of coffee to prove a point. You have no right to prove a point in another persons house.
No it is not fair. But life is not fair and that is not the venue to argue that point.
Please try to take some of the advice given here and grow up. Being defensive will serve no purpose. We are not the bad guys.
I don't let anyone tell me what the truth is. I make good decisions and I make poor decisions and I live with it. As to my vaping, I have found my sense of smell, taste, breathing...and lack of smell a gift. My respiratory health has gone up. My doctor has seen it and, surprisingly, my dentist.
As to not being looked down upon when smoking, hogwash. I had to go "outback" and out of sight. It affected relationships, talk was how I "needed" to smoke. Not being a smoker, I understand why people see it poorly.
When I see a smoker, I vape...several feet away. I now know how much it stinks. And, I just demonstrate a good alternative.
Learn some of the facts and when someone is brow-beating you, tell them they are wrong and why.
I don't let anyone tell me what is truth. I believe in my actions and...I feel the benefits.
No matter what though, I wish you good health.
As to not being looked down upon when smoking, hogwash. I had to go "outback" and out of sight. It affected relationships, talk was how I "needed" to smoke. Not being a smoker, I understand why people see it poorly.
When I see a smoker, I vape...several feet away. I now know how much it stinks. And, I just demonstrate a good alternative.
Learn some of the facts and when someone is brow-beating you, tell them they are wrong and why.
I don't let anyone tell me what is truth. I believe in my actions and...I feel the benefits.
No matter what though, I wish you good health.
The OP has gotten some very good advice.
Before this goes any further, I must remind you all to attack the post, not the poster. If that rule cannot be followed, the thread will get closed.
Period.
Thank you.
Before this goes any further, I must remind you all to attack the post, not the poster. If that rule cannot be followed, the thread will get closed.
Period.
Thank you.
I do get some negative comets from time to time but mostly people say good for you when I can say 3 years with no smokes. Id say to anybody who lets others ignorance bother them to much is a little to touchy cause there is alot of ignorance out there and is not just pointed at vapors.
Sounds like an excuse to start smoking again, and blame other people for it to me.
Bcalvanese has an excellent point. It's entirely up to you what you feel like doing.
One of the great things that I've found about getting older is that I no longer care what other people think of me, what I say, or what I do. I work full time, I have a family and responsibilities, and I don't have the time or energy to worry about or concern myself with the opinions of others. It's very liberating. I wish that I had this outlook when I was younger.
Do what you need to do ,I know its annoying getting peoples uneducated opinions, I do as well .I don't vape around non smokers just like I didn't smoke around them, so that cuts out a lot of potential comments.Fact continued smoking will, A kill you or, B seriously inhibit your health. Continued Vaping will do very little known harm to you. My wife has been very supportive of me switching to vaping but I know she is hoping I will eventually stop this too. I am hoping to quit vaping as well eventually ,but im not in a hurry ,I smoked for 41 years so it may take a while to get there. Its your life live it the way you choose too ,that means sometimes going against the flow.
Its all just common sense.
As for myself I can think of only 2 people who were initially negative about it since I started vaping, sure I might have noticed a few dirty looks out in public on occasion but those people don't even count. Actually my wife has to point it out to me because most of the time those types of people don't even register to me. I'm good at tuning out white noise.
Other than that, all the feedback I've gotten has been overwhelmingly positive, I honestly can't count the times I've had short chats with people who were curious.
I can tell you that I too have encountered the same resistance. Everyone is an expert. I've almost come to blows with one of these know-it-all's. I even had one of these "experts" tell me that I was "inhaling 4 amps". That should show you just how ignorant some people are about vaping. I've done a ton of research on vaping, and as long as you do it right, it doesn't seem to be an issue. I'm off analogs for 3+ months now and feel 110% better, and I vape like a steam engine. I also smoked like a chimney. After one of these idiots attacks you, ask them what they are basing their findings on, and I'll bet that ends the debate. Good luck, and Keep on Vaping!!!!
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So you ...... someone off to the point that they threatened you physically and we're supposed to coddle you?
Grow up and try to be a more pleasant person. You used the word "pariah" to describe yourself and you were probably spot on.
You dont have a "right to vape" in any house but your own.
Grow up and try to be a more pleasant person. You used the word "pariah" to describe yourself and you were probably spot on.
You dont have a "right to vape" in any house but your own.
I ignore the nay-sayers and usually throw it back on them. Find something THEY are doing and start saying crap. If they are deriding you and they have a can of Coke in their hand, start off with, "Coke ? COKE ? Don't you know Pepsi is MUCH better ? You can remove corrosion on your car battery with Coke !! I can only imagine what it's doing to your insides !! Yet you STILL drink it ? How can you be so ignorant ?". Let that settle a bit then add, "It's easy to knock something YOU choose not to do.". I've picked a bunch of random items, pick any brand name they are holding/using and start ragging them. Apple vs Android, Dell vs Toshiba, LED TV vs LCD TV, etc... Doesn't matter if you have it too, you do this just to make a point.
Stops them in their tracks every time. If they do continue and I don't feel like defending myself, a simple "Oh, .... !!" (of course saying it all) will ALWAYS work !! Sometimes when I'm in a playful mood I go "Jerry Springer Guest" on them. "Uh-uh ! No !! You ain't my Momma !! You don't know me !! You don't pay my bills !! Talk to the hand !!"
If I listened to other people's opinions, I'd never wear the kilt I bought....
Your life, your lungs, your health, your decision.
As far as vaping in someone's house, I always ask first. If they say no, I go outside. Just like I did when I smoked Marlboro's. A non-issue to me. Their house, their rules. A person's home is not democratic, it's a dictatorship. If your name ain't on the mailbox, you have ZERO say.
Stops them in their tracks every time. If they do continue and I don't feel like defending myself, a simple "Oh, .... !!" (of course saying it all) will ALWAYS work !! Sometimes when I'm in a playful mood I go "Jerry Springer Guest" on them. "Uh-uh ! No !! You ain't my Momma !! You don't know me !! You don't pay my bills !! Talk to the hand !!"
If I listened to other people's opinions, I'd never wear the kilt I bought....
Your life, your lungs, your health, your decision.
As far as vaping in someone's house, I always ask first. If they say no, I go outside. Just like I did when I smoked Marlboro's. A non-issue to me. Their house, their rules. A person's home is not democratic, it's a dictatorship. If your name ain't on the mailbox, you have ZERO say.
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you guys are all right -
instead of listening to the kid telling me its poison - and eventualy bending backwards to change juice and the rest - i should have just stopped vaping completely then tell the kid in the corner to stop because were going to kill every one. should also appologize to the parents for making the house smell like "baby poop", and explain to them they need to stop smoking in the house, they are killing their kid.
i was completely disrespectful by being honest.
and again - sorry if anyone feels THREATENED that i made this thread. --- this incident happened over 2 weeks ago, i didnt expect sharing it would cause an uproar. also didnt expect to be attack for expressing how i felt.
instead of listening to the kid telling me its poison - and eventualy bending backwards to change juice and the rest - i should have just stopped vaping completely then tell the kid in the corner to stop because were going to kill every one. should also appologize to the parents for making the house smell like "baby poop", and explain to them they need to stop smoking in the house, they are killing their kid.
i was completely disrespectful by being honest.
and again - sorry if anyone feels THREATENED that i made this thread. --- this incident happened over 2 weeks ago, i didnt expect sharing it would cause an uproar. also didnt expect to be attack for expressing how i felt.
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