3 months of ecigs... coming to an end

[demon72]

heres my two cents......Im a baby here, just started vaping last Sunday.... used to smoke a pack and a half to two packs a day at damn near $7 a pack.... I got a crappy 510 that I way overpaid for with a coupla crappy batteries that I gotta charge every hour or two. I smoked fourish analogs on Monday and the same on Tuesday because of the battery problem... then I started taking my AC charger to work with me and I plug it in with my tools... havent had an analog in two days now, and couldnt care less about havin one.

Like I said Im a baby...I spent around 3-4 weeks of analog money for my crappy contraption, but ya know what....whatever, Im glad I did. Ill get a better device when this one has paid for itself from the analog savings, and If I didnt spend that boatload of funds that day at the mall kiosk, it wouldnt be anytime soon that I woulda started vaping, so ... that money, I aint had a grit in two days and thats enough for me at this point. and by the way... I got a bottle of juice that DOES taste like my grits, so at this point Im thankfull for that as well... I dont think I woulda taken to it if my first try tasted like candy or whatever. I got neater flavors comin in the mail, and Im sure Ill enjoy them, but for now Im glad I have this nasty ... tobaco flavor to remind me of the grits Ive hated for damn near twenty years.

Id like to think that you are just venting frustration and I doubt very much that I wont be here one day doing the same, but for me the trade off is worth it at this point.... I never liked my six year old boy tellin me to put those stinky things out, so Im glad I have the opportunity and the balls to do something about it, and it aint even hard (at this point).

Anyway I hope that you change your heart on the matter... or whatever, quit vaping no worries, just for gods sake dont go back to the alternative.... gonna be stuborn, then damn it BE STUBORN!

 

[SonnyCrack]

BTW.. I think the thing we all missed was he's not going back to dipping.. He's done.. So for that. CONGRATS!

 

[Jennie O]

No juice is going to taste like a cigarette. (Thank God)
Good luck and I hope you stay off them.

 

[Rosa]

.... I never liked my six year old boy tellin me to put those stinky things out

great post!

... and btw, it feels even crappier when your six year old tells you they want to smoke too, just like you.

 

[demon72]

Ya know what....my boy does wanna be just like me.... he wants to be a worker guy with a helmet (hardhat) and work boots.... except that he does not like cigaretes at all...which is awsome and weird at the same time.... but the way I look at it it would only be a matter of time till those rebelious teenage years... etc. etc. etc.

 

[Iffy]

... and btw, it feels even crappier when your six year old tells you they want to smoke too, just like you.

OUCH! That hurts...

 

[redheadone]

I am sorry things did not work out for you up to this point but don't give up. After being an thirty year three pack a day analog user i had to go through several kits and spent a lot more money than I wanted I finally found what works for me and you will find what works for you. I think the mistake that a lot of people make is that they will find a e-liquid that is going to taste exactly like tobacco There is no such thing. I made that mistake. I finally figured out that I would find a liquid that would taste good to me and I did along with the ego-tank and a couple of really nice mods. There are a lot of good vendors that sell really good liquids. I hope you don't go back to any type of tobacco. My ex is a prime example of what can happen if you wait to long to quit He has taken the e-cig route now but at a terrible cost He has very bad COPD Good luck in whatever you decide but just think about giving it one more shot if for nothing else your health

 

[kabonk]

he said he wasn't a smoker and he has better things to do and more important things to spend his money on I think he was just saying good-bye or something.

 

[Nicko]

Unless I missed something, Dario was not a smoker. He said he used snuff and loved dipping tobacco. Both are smokeless and vastly safer than smoking. I'm not sure why he wanted to even try e-cigs. So, if he goes back to snuff, he is still at extremely low risk of any smoking-related disease. Am I wrong?

 

[StormFinch]

Just a quick tip for you Dario. If the urge to go back ever gets to be too much and we all know it happens, especially in times of stress, try swedish snus rather than juggling e-cigs. 30 some odd years of positive safety studies and a spitless tobacco taste sounds more like what you were looking for when you switched. Otherwise, congrats on quitting everything and good luck.

 

[Green Mtn Vpr]

So basically you found and took the time now to post a negative rant, to and for the thousands of folks, that you insulted therein, that would have helped you eight ways from Tuesday and probably saved you ton of money, time, and frustration had you just asked or interacted? Well, I'm hoping you feel better as your post serves no other purpose. There is no Vaping Bible as there are preferences, and tastes, and differing needs...but with a little time, communication and a touch of reasoning there is nothing on vaping that cant be learned here and could have avoided every single one of your complaints. I myself am beyond thankful to this community for the extensive knowledge, help, support, and caring I've been shown...that has saved me alot of money, led me to an extremely successful system from the start, and helped me countless ways..but maybe I'm just naive. Take care...

 

[Apocalypse*Meow]

I think that you're right- PVs are probably not the ideal thing for you to quit dipping with. They're great for us smokers- but for someone without the hardcore hand-to-mouth fixation we have, I can't imagine them being all *that* useful. They are fiddly and annoying especially if you don't luck onto your perfect vape right away. Personally, a bottom feeder mod (Reo Mini) plus an atty and DIY liquid was great for *me*... but a dipper? Eh. Yeah, I can see that an "e-cigarette" could drive you batty and as a special bonus, not really replace what you wanted it to.

If I were you and you have a hard time quitting the dip cold turkey from here on out, maybe try the gum next? (Assuming you haven't already of course.) If that doesn't work, *then* maybe go for another go with a PV.

If you ever find yourself in that position- considering dipping again- I'd suggest trying a cheap bottom feeder like Old Goat's ($30ish, plus batteries and a charger), some plain ol' atties. Atties last longer, and are much less clutter than cartos, and work great with a bottom feeder. And are cheaper. (And they work better with VG liquid which is thicker.)

DIY- which it sounds like you dipped your toe in, but didn't really get too far along with- is by far, *far* and away, the cheapest way to get juice. I just bought some nic liquid here: Unflavored nicotine liquid which is cheaper by *far* than juice from a vendor. And you can get decent flavorings from here: Premium Signature Flavors | ecigExpress (their "Signature Flavors" are Perfumer's Apprentice flavors, which are a good value for your $ at $5.50 for an ounce). Plus some USP grade propylene glycol from someplace like Walmart and you're good.

I do absolutely agree those "DIY" kits have a bunch of crap you don't really need and are overpriced IMO. I've found a graduated cylinder, some bottles, and a syringe or three has been plenty to get me rolling with DIY.

I'd let go of trying to find a tobacco flavor that tastes like tobacco. I've found that to be fruitless, and not really what I want a juice to taste like anyway with so many other options out there.

Hopefully, you won't need any of that stuff and will find quitting a breeze now that you've broken the habit with PVs. Good luck.

 

[Diablo]

Both are smokeless and vastly safer than smoking. So, if he goes back to snuff, he is still at extremely low risk of any smoking-related disease. Am I wrong?

Dipping is worse than smoking health wise. I did both, and a few years back I had to go get the inside of my lip biopsied (spelling?) because my dentist saw abnormal growths there. Scared the heck out me, but everything tested ok. He said that because the tobacco is so close to your jaw bone(less than an 1/8 of an inch) it was a perfect scenario for cancer to spread rapidly and that when it does its all over pretty fast if they didn't remove half your face in time. So yeah that was the end of my dipping days but man it tasted good while it lasted...

 

[mlinky]

I'm beginning to believe this may be a troll, unless someone can explain why a widower with 2 kids to support and a $30 per month dipping habit would drop hundreds of dollars on pv kits, and then complain about the cost. The intitial purchase would blow the budget for more than a year. Wouldn't gum seem like a more sensible substitute for dip? And when did anyone ever post that vaping was cheap? For someone who doesn't have the time to make 5 short posts, the opening rant was pretty verbose.

 

[mlinky]

I am very aware of the topics here and the help forum. I do appreciate ECF and I wouldn't be here if I didn't. What I'm talking about here, with ECF, and what's wrong is the "Pareto Principle". I just don't want to partake in this activity. I never meant to offend anyone.

That just makes no sense at all.

 

[Nicko]

Dipping is worse than smoking health wise. I did both, and a few years back I had to go get the inside of my lip biopsied (spelling?) because my dentist saw abnormal growths there. Scared the heck out me, but everything tested ok. He said that because the tobacco is so close to your jaw bone(less than an 1/8 of an inch) it was a perfect scenario for cancer to spread rapidly and that when it does its all over pretty fast if they didn't remove half your face in time. So yeah that was the end of my dipping days but man it tasted good while it lasted...

By far the greatest risk factor for mouth cancer and other health problems is smoking. Smokeless forms of tobacco are MUCH safer. CASAA have lots of information on this.

 

[OMG!]

I've spent way more than he has... I must be a troll too.

I think the guy just really wanted to quit but ran headlong into reality.

 

[phillydave]

I spent about $160 before I found what works for me. I'm more than satisfied and don't plan on looking back. It seems like some unfortunate events have impacted your opinions. Best of luck. Maybe vaping isn't for everyone.

 

[Wolfstar]

I guess I just don't understand why Dario would use an ecig to stop dipping. Seems like the snus would have been a better idea, then wean off them. He didn't smoke cigarettes, just dipped. I wouldn't take offense, as I think it was frustration more than anything else that he posted. And not everyone is of the mind NOR inclination to participate in a forum. Just seems that he could have asked for help way before he got to this point, but then some people don't like to ask for directions either.

I too, wish you well Dario...so very sorry you were disappointed by your experience. I hope you live long and prosper greatly. Take care.

 

[hairball]

I started my vaping experience on August 19th, 2010 and don't regret one dollar that I spent. Like you, I started with the little batteries and progressed quickly into bigger battery units like the eGo/Riva. Once I bought my first mod box, I never went back to the smaller batteries other than using them to stealth vape at work. After the box mod, my daughter bought me my first variable voltage Buzz...she thought it was a neat looking unit and pretty also. After using it, everything else was a waste but was fun while it lasted. I now have 5 of them. Why? Each is loaded with a different carto, tank, and juice...set at different voltages. Would I go back to analogs? NEVER! I love vaping different flavors and trying new toys out. It makes it fun for me. I hate to hear that you feel differently but you're correct about one thing, I too wish there was a sticky that explained every detail about every device available. It would help new people for sure.

Good luck in the future and I hope that you no longer have the want/need to use tobacco again.