A bit annoyed: vaping indoors all of a sudden upset ONE coworker

[Steamix]

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I understand that, but do most of the people seeing you vape understand that?....

So they don't understand it, yet we allow them to pass judgment and rulings on us ?

If they're not willing nor capable of 'understanding', they lack competency and it's thus rather presomptous on their part to make rules of things they don't grasp.

But that's endemic nowadays.

ANTZ or ISIS and all these other -isms past and present, if all these ignorants and pathetically ( - and pathologically -) small minds would have it their way ( which of course they view as the 'only' way ) we'd still be trying to grow legs and try to make it out of the primordial slime...

Sure, it has all kinds, the right-in-your-face cloudcoughers aren't much of an improvement over the bown-nosing yay-sayers... As always, somewhere in the middle is where the balance's at...

Dunno which philosopher said it :

A little politeness is like an air cushion. There may be nothing in it, but it softens they daily blows of life

 

[KayP]

**Media removed**

I'm trying to remove content for the first time and I hope it works.

I removed the video because there was at least one profanity used in it. I'm sorry for posting it, I didn't think it through.

 

[RoseJ]

Rant:
But vaping in a place where smoking isn't allowed is harmful to the whole vaping industry.

I agree with this. If people are vaping anywhere there isn't a "No Vaping" sign, then it won't be long before we'll see No Vaping signs everywhere. It might not be fair, it might be based on misinformation, but when did that ever stop public opinion?

 

[AndriaD]

Indeed you should start complaining about her excessive usage of artificial & nasty "sudden odor" masking chemicals. If you are in California you can site Prop 65 & complain to CalOsha also. They will investigate & fine/shut down/arrest the principals for allowing such transgressions.

If he was in california, 80% of his coworkers would have donned gas masks at the SIGHT of a vape.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

Everytime i walk into my local shop its FULL of smoke. Its not a big deal to me, but i def wouldnt bring my 10 month old in there, would you? I feel like its very disrespectful to some people who choose not to be around any nicotine floating around, plus that is whats going to make people upset and hate vaping in my opinion...

Smoke? Or Vapor? It's DIFFERENT, you know. We go to the local shop sometimes, so clouded you can't see the back wall from the door. If it was SMOKE, it would irritate the eyes AND nose; vapor does NOT.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

Removed to keep the moderators happy.

Heh, hilarious! But I predict that one of the ECF nannies will be along momentarily to moderate it, because of the language. Can't be having anything to suggest how people REALLY talk, can we!

Andria

 

[KayP]

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Heh, hilarious! But I predict that one of the ECF nannies will be along momentarily to moderate it, because of the language. Can't be having anything to suggest how people REALLY talk, can we!

Andria

Oh oops!! Sorry I didn't even think about it. Should I remove it? Can I remove it?

 

[KayP]

Heh, hilarious! But I predict that one of the ECF nannies will be along momentarily to moderate it, because of the language. Can't be having anything to suggest how people REALLY talk, can we!

Andria

Hi Andria, I did remove the video. Sorry for missing the profanity in it.

 

[AndriaD]

Hi Andria, I did remove the video. Sorry for missing the profanity in it.

It really was funny, especially the first part when the girl has a seizure/St Vitus Dance about smelling some vapor. I haven't had that experience, but it sounds a lot like what the OP has seen the receptionist doing. However I HAVE had the reaction about putting "other stuff" in it. I just say, "Not in this one; this one is only for liquid. I keep the other one at home."

Andria

 

[BDub113]

Yes i do know its different...but i still wouldnt take my 10 month old in there. But i think what you mean to say is vapor doesnt irritate your eyes and nose. Not everyones.

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[fratervapor]

You might suddenly get sensitive to her perfume. /cough, cough

 

[4lph4num3r1c]

I vape but I don't wanna inhale your exhaled vapor. Especially at work. Be professional and courteous or you can't expect anyone else to be.

 

[skoony]

I agree with this. If people are vaping anywhere there isn't a "No Vaping" sign, then it won't be long before we'll see No Vaping signs everywhere. It might not be fair, it might be based on misinformation, but when did that ever stop public opinion?

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The only reason signs are required is the law says so. Even though everyone knows where you can or can not do something they are required by law. This is a tried and true brainwashing technique which gives the illusion that these admonitions are true and have merit when in fact the opposite is true. The people will be offended lie is a lie. 99.9% of the people do not care either way. We either go forth and vape without
remorse and thrive or we die the death of a thousand cuts and skulk by the curb they kick us too.
There is no them. We are the them. They will not know who we are until we show them.
And that's the root of the mater. Some think we should skulk around acting like evil doer's
or upsetters of the social norm. BS,we are not hurting anyone. Sorry folks but the second hand vaper boogie man has been laid to rest. It is high time people get off their high horse and stop trying
to codify in law things that annoy them. It is time to vape as normally as it is to breathing.

Regards
Mike

 

[DC2]

I agree with this. If people are vaping anywhere there isn't a "No Vaping" sign, then it won't be long before we'll see No Vaping signs everywhere. It might not be fair, it might be based on misinformation, but when did that ever stop public opinion?

Here is what you just said sounded like when I read it...

Do not vape in in places where smoking is not allowed, even if they don't try to stop you.
Because if you do, then eventually, they will try to stop you.

End result is that you are advocating doing exactly what they want...
Just so they won't MAKE you do exactly what they want.

That's how I hear it anyway.
But I must be misunderstanding, because that doesn't make any sense.

 

[ShowerHead]

No vaping on flights of 2 hours or less.
Oh, wait.
Thanks how smoking was done in.
I'll not apologize nor slink away from people to vape.
I'm courteous as far as vaping (and smoking back in the day), don't do it on elevators, at the dinner table, etc.
But if I am vaping and not bothering anyone, I'll be dipped if I'm going to stop.
Especially for those with 'allergies'. "Excuse me, I'm allergic to that thing and I'll die if you don't stop" Perhaps you ought not stand so close.

Reminds me of a place I worked once. It was VERY cold in the winter (-40F), so there was a smoking area downstairs in a corner of an unused room. Had ventilation direct to the outside. Sealed, etc, etc.
One day, we could no longer have our break in there. Why? A non-smoker said it was their right to use any break facility and that the smoke caused her asthma to act up and she would have to go home.

 

[AndriaD]

No vaping on flights of 2 hours or less.
Oh, wait.
Thanks how smoking was done in.
I'll not apologize nor slink away from people to vape.
I'm courteous as far as vaping (and smoking back in the day), don't do it on elevators, at the dinner table, etc.
But if I am vaping and not bothering anyone, I'll be dipped if I'm going to stop.
Especially for those with 'allergies'. "Excuse me, I'm allergic to that thing and I'll die if you don't stop" Perhaps you ought not stand so close.

Reminds me of a place I worked once. It was VERY cold in the winter (-40F), so there was a smoking area downstairs in a corner of an unused room. Had ventilation direct to the outside. Sealed, etc, etc.
One day, we could no longer have our break in there. Why? A non-smoker said it was their right to use any break facility and that the smoke caused her asthma to act up and she would have to go home.

I think I'd have given that asthmatic something TEEMING with sulfites... so she had to go to the HOSPITAL!

The very nerve.

Andria

 

[Jman8]

Here is what you just said sounded like when I read it...

Do not vape in in places where smoking is not allowed, even if they don't try to stop you.
Because if you do, then eventually, they will try to stop you.

End result is that you are advocating doing exactly what they want...
Just so they won't MAKE you do exactly what they want.

That's how I hear it anyway.
But I must be misunderstanding, because that doesn't make any sense.

Do not vape where you are not allowed to smoke IS advocating their position. By "their" I mean opposition's. It is advocating for acceptance of a whole bunch of assumptions (I'd say lies) and then suggesting that there really can't be a counterposition without that (the counterargument) being inherently disrespectful, lacking common sense.

The idea that vaping (in general) is bothersome to at least some people really ought to be seen as common sense. But the notion that because it is bothersome to some people that no one should ever do it in public is not common sense. If some people (let's call them germaphobes) are bothered by people who don't wear a filter over their mouth when breathing in public, would it then be fair to say 'common sense is that everyone ought to wear a filter over their mouth because not doing so is bothersome to people?' Everyone needs to breath when in public, but no one needs to breath in public without a mouth filter. That anyone may desire to breath in public without a filter over their mouth is great, normal and understandable for overwhelming majority, and yet if that same segment (the majority) were told information (spun lies / propaganda) about chemicals in exhaled human breath, then one would think it wouldn't be too big of a leap from that propaganda piece to movement that suggests not wearing a filter over your mouth is between dangerous and discourteous.

I simply find it not credible to be a vaper and strongly advocate for the vape only where you smoke position. The only way I can filter that, and still come from position of 'common sense,' is to understand anyone espousing that, is strongly influenced by the ANTZ side of the Force.

 

[AndriaD]

Do not vape where you are not allowed to smoke IS advocating their position. By "their" I mean opposition's. It is advocating for acceptance of a whole bunch of assumptions (I'd say lies) and then suggesting that there really can't be a counterposition without that (the counterargument) being inherently disrespectful, lacking common sense.

The idea that vaping (in general) is bothersome to at least some people really ought to be seen as common sense. But the notion that because it is bothersome to some people that no one should ever do it in public is not common sense. If some people (let's call them germaphobes) are bothered by people who don't wear a filter over their mouth when breathing in public, would it then be fair to say 'common sense is that everyone ought to wear a filter over their mouth because not doing so is bothersome to people?' Everyone needs to breath when in public, but no one needs to breath in public without a mouth filter. That anyone may desire to breath in public without a filter over their mouth is great, normal and understandable for overwhelming majority, and yet if that same segment (the majority) were told information (spun lies / propaganda) about chemicals in exhaled human breath, then one would think it wouldn't be too big of a leap from that propaganda piece to movement that suggests not wearing a filter over your mouth is between dangerous and discourteous.

I simply find it not credible to be a vaper and strongly advocate for the vape only where you smoke position. The only way I can filter that, and still come from position of 'common sense,' is to understand anyone espousing that, is strongly influenced by the ANTZ side of the Force.

I'd say that people who are so grievously offended by anything that other people may do, really need to stay their intolerant butts at home. People who have allergies have to take responsibility for their own health, not foist it on everyone at large. If their allergy is that severe and life-threatening, their own home is the only place they should ever be found -- their own little bubble.

Andria

 

[Plumes.91]

Lest ye not forget, thy air is thy neighbor's air- Thy space is thy neighbor's space. If thy stupit neighbor complains about your vapor, then ye musnt violate thy neighbor's right to the pursuit of happiness & freedoms. I am currently having a similar issue at home. Thy mother dislikes thy vapor smell, and CLAIMS that it makes her choke, and triggers her allergies. I proclaim it silly that thy vapor would possibly trigger allergies, however, she thinks otherwise. I have told she that i shall go back to smoking in the house, to which she promptly shouts NO! NO! Just keep vaping!! I'll get over it!" lol....

 

[AndriaD]

Lest ye not forget, thy air is thy neighbor's air- Thy space is thy neighbor's space. If thy stupit neighbor complains about your vapor, then ye musnt violate thy neighbor's right to the pursuit of happiness & freedoms. I am currently having a similar issue at home. Thy mother dislikes thy vapor smell, and CLAIMS that it makes her choke, and triggers her allergies. I proclaim it silly that thy vapor would possibly trigger allergies, however, she thinks otherwise. I have told she that i shall go back to smoking in the house, to which she promptly shouts NO! NO! Just keep vaping!! I'll get over it!" lol....

My mother has COPD. One day in the summer of 2014, she and I spent 5.5 hrs in her closet together, rearranging her clothes for easier wheelchair access. I vaped the whole time. She said how nice it was that I didn't have to run outside every 30 minutes, it would have taken TWICE as long. I agreed that it was very nice, thinking, no way I could have put up with her for twice as long.

There is no ventilation in a closet; I had to set up a fan to blow inwards just so I didn't bake to death in there -- no vents to provide AC, which doesn't bother her in the least, she wears a sweater when it's 80 degrees. But at no time was there a visible fog, nor any complaints from her about the vape. And as I said, she has COPD.

Andria