Thanks a lot Morandir sir. 3 out of my 4 batts are reg manuals, and I was wondering how much more life they had in em (the first two I bought are starting to act funny). Now I know-----thanks again.
A brief example of how many charges regular manuals last
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Thanks Morandir, glad i swap out a morning batt for a fresh one at lunch, when I work 'normal' hours at work.
Maybe that's why i still have a couple that work great at almost two years?
if I'm at home and I've been using a batt for a few hours ( xtra long autos ) I always try to switch it out for a fresh one and charge the one I was using.
Had too many older cars with battery issues, so I'm always thinking about that
Maybe that's why i still have a couple that work great at almost two years?
if I'm at home and I've been using a batt for a few hours ( xtra long autos ) I always try to switch it out for a fresh one and charge the one I was using.
Had too many older cars with battery issues, so I'm always thinking about that
Morandir Sir, I am glad you posted this for the new people it is very helpful, thank you.
Krazie sir posted it for new and old alike. Quite often we hear you can get 200-300 recharges off a batt, figured it was time to put it to the test.
Thanks Morandir! For once, I feel like I can say that I was doing something right with this vapin thing, I charge mine early! I know I've read before, but is it bad to charge overnight because sometimes.....
Snow, I am so sad to hear you're having a problem....just put it behind you!
Snow, I am so sad to hear you're having a problem....just put it behind you!
Overnight is ok Ms. SAG, it's when you leave them on for more than 12 hours they can start to degrade. Sacrificed an older batt with switch issues (had to press really hard to get him to work, he was 193 charges old so had a good life, and died in the name of science) to find that out. 12 hrs did some damage (15% loss), 36 killed him (stayed charged for five minutes).
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Degrade after more than 12 hours?!8-o
Oooops . . . gonna have to alter a few "bedtime" routines . . .
Oooops . . . gonna have to alter a few "bedtime" routines . . .
Awesome work Morandir hon!!! I don't have the patience much less the attention span to have done this.
Amazing the difference it makes deep cycling the batts!
Thank you so much for givin some numbers....((hugs)) Muah
Amazing the difference it makes deep cycling the batts!
Thank you so much for givin some numbers....((hugs)) Muah
Leaving a batt on a smart charger shouldn't damage the batt. Or that's what I've been lead to believe. As I understand it, they stop charging when they're done.
Great research, very helpful. I was wondering about this myself the other day and debating about charging--the "when" and "how long" questions. I've also heard people talking about overnight full charges, when most batts are calling for 1.5-3 hr full body charging. Good to see you covered that as well lol.
Again, great to know this info. Thanks for posting it!
Again, great to know this info. Thanks for posting it!
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Thanks for posting this Morandir. Awaiting the results for the Diamond & Stealth series now.
Thanks for taking the time to perform and post the results of your experiment Morandir. I have battery powered lawn care equipment and every manual instructs to recharge as soon as a drop in performance is noted (after letting the battery cool first). Even though these are nicads, I figured a person couldn't go too far wrong following the same principal and recharging vaping batteries as soon a drop in production is noticed, and so I have been following that procedure from day one. Thanks for providing the hard data to back up a hunch.
As a side note, it's still nice to have that light as a backup as sometimes I get so wrapped up in something while vaping that I don't notice the drop in vapor production.
Thanks again Morandir
As a side note, it's still nice to have that light as a backup as sometimes I get so wrapped up in something while vaping that I don't notice the drop in vapor production.
Thanks again Morandir
It's truly been a pleasure to help. Depending on how I feel this weekend planning on doing another round of voltage testing on the stealths and king diamonds. The ones that have been part of the new tests group are nearing their 100th charge. Figured it would be nice to know if they hold up their higher voltage output long term....
Depending on how I feel this weekend planning on doing another round of voltage testing on the stealths and king diamonds. The ones that have been part of the new tests group are nearing their 100th charge. Figured it would be nice to know if they hold up their higher voltage output long term.... 
No problem Whistles (sir or Ms.?). In the process of doing the same with the king diamond and stealth series batts, nearing the 200 mark on them, so expecting a drop off sometime soon on the ones being deep cycled. So far none though.
Morandir,
Thanks so much for this information. I had a 1300mah battery go .... up on me after a mere 2 months of vaping, if that, and wondered if it had anything to do with my charging habits. The question I have about your study is if it accounts for the amount of vaping within each charge. In other words, if group 2 went back to the charger after only 50% of the charge was drained, would that not account for about a 100% increase in the number of charges alone without regard to the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the different charging practices? Is there any way to measure the amount of charge used once a noticeable drop in vapor was observed? I wonder if a better measure of effectiveness of charging would be number of puffs or vaping time rather than number of charges. If I were to vape for a maximum of 30 minutes between charges, I have to believe I could easily get 500 charges before it died (though I'm happy to be wrong), but does that necessarily mean that it is the best practice to improve the life of the battery? Know what I mean? What are your thoughts on this? Thanks.
MNG
Thanks so much for this information. I had a 1300mah battery go .... up on me after a mere 2 months of vaping, if that, and wondered if it had anything to do with my charging habits. The question I have about your study is if it accounts for the amount of vaping within each charge. In other words, if group 2 went back to the charger after only 50% of the charge was drained, would that not account for about a 100% increase in the number of charges alone without regard to the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the different charging practices? Is there any way to measure the amount of charge used once a noticeable drop in vapor was observed? I wonder if a better measure of effectiveness of charging would be number of puffs or vaping time rather than number of charges. If I were to vape for a maximum of 30 minutes between charges, I have to believe I could easily get 500 charges before it died (though I'm happy to be wrong), but does that necessarily mean that it is the best practice to improve the life of the battery? Know what I mean? What are your thoughts on this? Thanks.
MNG
MNG (sir or Ms.?) I'm testing that theory on a select group of batts as we speak (been working on it for about a month and a half), it's not ready yet, but will let you know the results when done. Avoiding deep cycling is the best practice, how far into the cycle is the question. As for the actual voltage output numbers and testing in intervals here's a link to a very large collection of just such info:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vapor4life/209439-morandirs-collection-test-info.html
Hope this helps.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vapor4life/209439-morandirs-collection-test-info.html
Hope this helps.
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