A Mod can satisfy both freebase nic & Salt-Nic
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oh...so many messages, thanks all for the comments. Definitely they are useful information. in my idea, Salt-Nic flavor and throat hit quite close to smoking, especially for those heavy smoker who want to quit, it can be a good alternative. Freebase, most of the e-liquid in the market, they are too light, this is why juul is so much popular, however, as ANNA said, it is a good way to dilute Salt-Nic with freebase, that can help to turn a proper flavor. as for the auto-detect device. actually it is a compact pod system, but it with all of the mod feature, such as precise reading of the resistor, voltage range is between 5~50W. I found most of the small pod in the market, the power supplied directly by battery, not on a power regulated board, the battery supplied power is rely on the battery voltage, when the battery voltage is low, the power output is weak, so the flavor is weak, when the battery voltage is high, the power output is strong, so the flavor is strong. What I want is a stable output, such as 11W, it should be real 11W, to guarantee the taste.
I tried use the Mod to vape the Salt-Nic, it was terrible experience, main reasons are: The wick is not customized for Salt-Nic, most of the them are sub-ohm wire. secondly, the power is too strong, so the temperature are too high for Salt-Nic. this is why I want to work out a device, can work on both kind of Nic. why I have to auto-detect: for some new vapors, they are not quite familiar with the two kind of liquid, it is better to offer them a programmed device, so they will not experience like high power with Salt-Nic, with a big inhale, I believe he/she will never tried Salt-Nic again 
I tried use the Mod to vape the Salt-Nic, it was terrible experience, main reasons are: The wick is not customized for Salt-Nic, most of the them are sub-ohm wire. secondly, the power is too strong, so the temperature are too high for Salt-Nic. this is why I want to work out a device, can work on both kind of Nic. why I have to auto-detect: for some new vapors, they are not quite familiar with the two kind of liquid, it is better to offer them a programmed device, so they will not experience like high power with Salt-Nic, with a big inhale, I believe he/she will never tried Salt-Nic again
You mean like Aspire Breeze 2 which has nic salt coils (high ohm) and freebase coils (subohm)? I've been thinking of taking one of my squonkers or RTA and doing a high ohm build on it to see if it vapes like a pod or not.
I still say this doesnt matter. The ONLY advantage of salt nic is its ability to be used in high concentrations, 30mg/ml and up. Most people who vape high nic levels, salt OR freebase, dont use high wattage to do so. There is no such thing as a coil or wick specifically customized for nic salts. A real simple way to understand all this is high nic levels use lower wattages and lower nic levels use higher wattages. Of course, all this depends on someones personal tolerance to nicotine. I use nic salt at sub ohm resistance and high wattage. I also use these same resistances and wattages with freebase. Sometime, even with the same coils and wicks, i.e. i dont always change wicks and coils when i change juice flavors and/or nicotine compositions. Any device already made can use salt or freebase nic at any time. We already have controls that raise or lower the wattage a mod outputs. One benefit of this forum is to help people avoid mistakes like vaping too much nicotine at too high power levels, which by all appearances you have done and had a bad experience with. This cannot be solely caused by the fact that you used nic salt. If you had used freebase nic at a high level and high power, you most likely would have had a similar experience. I honestly dont see a need for a mod to detect one form of nic or the other and subsequently adjust the wattage. A little more research into vaping beforehand would serve beginners much better.I tried use the Mod to vape the Salt-Nic, it was terrible experience, main reasons are: The wick is not customized for Salt-Nic, most of the them are sub-ohm wire. secondly, the power is too strong, so the temperature are too high for Salt-Nic. this is why I want to work out a device, can work on both kind of Nic. why I have to auto-detect: for some new vapors, they are not quite familiar with the two kind of liquid, it is better to offer them a programmed device, so they will not experience like high power with Salt-Nic, with a big inhale, I believe he/she will never tried Salt-Nic again
If salt nic requires different wicks, what kind do they require?I tried use the Mod to vape the Salt-Nic, it was terrible experience, main reasons are: The wick is not customized for Salt-Nic, most of the them are sub-ohm wire. secondly, the power is too strong, so the temperature are too high for Salt-Nic. this is why I want to work out a device, can work on both kind of Nic. why I have to auto-detect: for some new vapors, they are not quite familiar with the two kind of liquid, it is better to offer them a programmed device, so they will not experience like high power with Salt-Nic, with a big inhale, I believe he/she will never tried Salt-Nic again
I do not agree that salt nic actually needs anything different than freebase. I mix salt nic the same way as freebase, use it on the same coils with the same wick and I cannot tell any differences. The Juul uses around 50mg/ml juices from my understanding, it isn't that the juice is any different, just has a higher nic level.
All of my regulated devices can do low wattage just fine, so setting up a high ohm, MTL set up is easy to do on one. I never seen one that only does high output.
If the coils you are saying is all sub ohm, you might be using the wrong tanks for your style. There are plenty of good low power MTL drop in coil tanks that can handle salt nic just fine.
If you still have problems finding a drop in coil MTL tank for high nic level salt nic, there are a whole lot of RTA and RDA options out there, and you can build the coil to your liking with whatever type of wire you choose.
Well most of the high nic salt juices are usually 50VG. And nic salt devices use wicks that works well with 50VG. If you do your own builds and wicking, you can build it for whatever you plan to use it for.
Like i said too, a little research beforehand and asking questions of other more experienced vapers before trying vaping will help beginners and hopefully prevent mistakes. One bit of info the OP left out was exactly how much nicotine was in the juice that he tried to vape at subohm and high power to cause the bad experience. I can only assume and deduce from the other statements that it was a high level. If i tried to subohm 30mg+ juice at high wattage, e.g. 70w or higher, i would probably cough up my innards. And maybe not, i do have a tolerance to nicotine....
There is no special nic salt "wick" that I know of, frankly. There is only VARIOUS strengths of nic salts used in VARIOUS types of resistance coils, and with a LOW resistance HIGH vapor output you MUST USE a LOW concentration of nic salts. The weaker the power of the device, the higher you can go in your nic salt concentration. Frankly.
Mods advertised as "nic salt capable" are a marketing device and can EQUALLY be used with freebase. Heck even the Juul has non-proprietary pods these days and you can put in them whatever you WANT although to be fair probably most folks using the Juul MAY be using nic salt juices but I'm going to bet NOT 100% of them.
There is NO SPECIAL WICK FOR NIC SALTS PERIOD. I mean, what would it be made of Jägermeister and tungsten? Come on now. This is nonsense.
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Mods advertised as "nic salt capable" are a marketing device and can EQUALLY be used with freebase. Heck even the Juul has non-proprietary pods these days and you can put in them whatever you WANT although to be fair probably most folks using the Juul MAY be using nic salt juices but I'm going to bet NOT 100% of them.
There is NO SPECIAL WICK FOR NIC SALTS PERIOD. I mean, what would it be made of Jägermeister and tungsten? Come on now. This is nonsense.
Anna
No I don't mean the kind wicking is different for the kind of nic, but just by what amount of VG used. And most nic salt flavors mainly use 50VG. So when I see a device that is labeled for nic salt, I immediately think of 50VG (because most are). Whether it is using freebase or salt wouldn't matter to the wicking.
as for the new vapors, I think it is quite right to consult some professional vapors firstly, that can help them avoid bad vaping experience. thanks all again for the recommendations. for my understanding, there are the differences between low nic and high nic, no matter of the nic types.
so I can say, the device will include two pods, one is for low nic, another is for high nic, when the device read the pod resistor, will immediate switch to appropriate output in order to help new users to avoid bad experiences. that will sound more reasonable.
so I can say, the device will include two pods, one is for low nic, another is for high nic, when the device read the pod resistor, will immediate switch to appropriate output in order to help new users to avoid bad experiences. that will sound more reasonable.
Thanks Anna, as for the high nic, I do believe there is special wick, which should be high ohm, and it is better with ceramic rather than cotton. this is based on my test. I think the ceramic can make the e-liquid penetrate evenly. this is why most of the small pen-style pod do. however, most of them in the market, the power was supplied by the battery directly, like Mech Mod, the cons of the device is the power not stable, make the flavor inconsistent.
There are low ohm coils and high ohm coils. Any kind of juice can be used with any kind of coil, no matter the resistance of said coil. So, if someone accidently puts low nic juice in your so-called high nic pod, what then? There are no high nicotine coils or low nicotine coils, no such thing. Not at all. And there are no special wicks for high nic juice. You seem to be obsessed with pods and dont truly understand the basics of how vaping works. Pods are like pens, they have very limited capabilities due to their design.
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Yes, but the device should be available to adjust the power meters, so users can finetune the flavor by themselves. For my understanding, the device should compact size, so it is easy to carry. meanwhile it should be smart, auto-switch between low nic and high nic, so it can output proper power. meanwhile, it should be available to adjust the power by userselves to spice up the flavors. different users do have different taste.
it will not bring bad experience if user put low nic juice on high nic pod. but it will be bad put high pic juice on low ohm pod, the harsh feeling will give user a choke based on my experience. this is why I think it should be avoid. this is why need auto-detect and output proper power for specific ohm pod. in any case, users should be available change the power by themselves.
Just make your device constant voltage, not wattage...simple solution.
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