A Starbucks Vaping Story

[Discord]

Hahahaha, I don't blame you. I probably shouldn't be saying this....but to me, much of our coffee tastes "burnt." I think the beans themselves are fine, but they seem to be waaaay over-roasted at the plant. It kills me; Starbucks is the largest buyer of Fair Trade coffee, and they work at and and with the farmers worldwide for sustainability, etc., etc. But then they BURN THE BEANS.

...And set up unrealisticly ridiculous policies at their stores. Le sigh.

that's exactly it. they call it an "Italian Roast", which to me is WAY over-roasted, giving that burnt flavor, but there's been studies that shows it also releases a lot more caffeine. so... addiction wins out over getting a decent cup of coffee. I'm a fan of their business practices and how employees are generally treated, I just think they make terrible coffee.

 

[FloydianSlip]

I say if you want really good coffee find a local crafter who knows how to roast beans and learn to use a french press. I know a guy here who roasts with an old wood fire roaster (the thing looks like it belongs in a museum) and the dude turns out seriously wicked coffee.

I still like going to Starbucks though when I am on the road and in need of a quick fix and a piece of "very berry" coffee cake.

 

[Neena]

I went to a concert at an outdoor venue last weekend, and they don't allow vaping or smoking other than designated areas. While it was light out before the concert started, I went to the smoking section to have a vape. The smokers were shocked that I had to vape there and asked a lot of questions about vaping, which I gladly answered and directed them here. Once it was dark out during the concert, I asked the people sitting around me if they minded if I vaped, and not one of them did. One was a doctor, who also asked a lot of questions about it and congratulated me on quitting smoking!

 

[Sa Da Tay]

Let me just say that I don't envy your job at all. Dealing with uppity soccer moms and douche business men on the daily can't be a walk in the park.

Aaaand I apparently don't have anything better to do this morning than keep this thread alive and nitpick at people's posts You guys will have to excuse me because this thread finally broke my annoyed silence on all the threads like this that have come before.

So the statement I quoted above reflects other similar sentiments stated throughout this thread. Is it apparently lost on some of you that while you complain about your vaping rights and the public ignorantly stereotyping you as a filthy smoker, you are blatantly stereotyping patrons of a coffee shop? Not to mention the fact that this thread is up in arms about Starbucks' policy against vaping, while concurrently griping about how bad the coffee is there. Are you getting upset just to get upset? If Starbucks doesn't allow vaping and you HATE Starbucks, I'm not seeing a problem here. You can patronize some other coffee shop and leave the soccer moms and douchebags happily sipping their Starbucks. Everybody is happy!

See? I'm a peacemaker.

 

[DC2]

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[DC2]

Are you getting upset just to get upset?

You say that like there is something wrong with it.


But I do prefer the terms righteously indignant.


Anyway, stereotyping isn't exactly the same thing as being discriminated against.
But it's in the same ballpark I guess.

 

[Linden]

I am a shy kind of baby-looking 37 year old woman but I know stupid rules when I see stupid rules. And I've been doing this vaping thing long enough to have a fair amount of knowledge under my belt, much more than some Starbucks CEO does. And you know what? I WILL stealth vape wherever and whenever I want. I could go into all of the much more offensive things that people do that are NOT banned (because it isn't PC to ban perfume or body odor). I know that what I am doing is not negatively impacting the public around me and therefore I feel no qualms about doing it. Sure, you could call me disrespectful, but banning vaping doesn't earn my respect anyways. Good thing I don't like Starbucks coffee.

 

[Mozzer]

I am a shy kind of baby-looking 37 year old woman but I know stupid rules when I see stupid rules. And I've been doing this vaping thing long enough to have a fair amount of knowledge under my belt, much more than some Starbucks CEO does. And you know what? I WILL stealth vape wherever and whenever I want. I could go into all of the much more offensive things that people do that are NOT banned (because it isn't PC to ban perfume or body odor). I know that what I am doing is not negatively impacting the public around me and therefore I feel no qualms about doing it. Sure, you could call me disrespectful, but banning vaping doesn't earn my respect anyways. Good thing I don't like Starbucks coffee.

Since you don't like Starbucks coffee, are you gonna go into one and stealth vape just to spite them? jkjkjkjkjk
I agree with you 100%

 

[Linden]

I say why stir the pot, We know what we are doing is not smoking and just vapor but not everyone realizes that, I just think it would give Vaping a bad name.

If you feel you need to STEALTH vape then why do it? Just because its not really smoking ( I don't get it )

Because its my right to do so and it isn't hurting anybody. They would notice nothing.

 

[Linden]

Starbucks donates lots of money to radical zionist causes. I stay away as much as I can. Buy local. Stay cool.

Well that was kind of...awkward... to read.

 

[Glen Snyder]

I vaped at 24 feet 11 inches outside a starbucks. Crazy times!

Of course i was actually in an adjoining Wendy's parking lot.. but it's the principle.

Now that's hard core. Respects

 

[Linden]

why are people getting upset about Starbucks choosing to ban smoking and vaping near their stores? Its their business..

I'm sure many family friendly places would look into banning vaping around their facilities too. I'm sure there are many parents who don't want their kids vaping in the future or present regardless of how "safe" vaping is.

So those families who have rebellious kids would rather that they take up deadly smoking?

 

[chellemakepeace]

I have no idea what that means- if you think discretely trying to vape in places that specifically don't allow it is going to win support then you are crazy and don't be surprised at the consequences.

The thing is, these places don't specifically not allow it? Its a kind of up in the air thing...people dip in public places all the time.

 

[Mozzer]

The thing is, these places don't specifically not allow it? Its a kind of up in the air thing...people dip in public places all the time.

Apparently Starbucks has a specific policy banning e-cigarettes. See above in previous posts. I'm sure it's a case of guilt by association and them erring on the extremely cautious side. It's their right as a private company. It's also a reasonable business decision. We are a minority, and one they're willing to risk losing. Won't touch their bottom line.

Edit: the association being vaping to smoking. Most people just blindly associate the two

 

[Linden]

I don't understand when people say "I only vape in places where smoking is allowed." As if this is some kind of self-congratulatory way of being super polite. Who exactly are these people trying to be polite to? (ANTZ maybe? Really, you want to bow to their will?) Is it that they deep-down believe that vaping is equivalent to smoking? Is it that they truly believe that it is somehow offensive to rational-thinking people?
If vapers think that they should be restricted to vaping only in areas where smoking is allowed, then they are complicit in the continued public-misunderstanding of vaping. I hope NEVER to see a person vape, standing alone, in a designated smoking area. That would be a very sad sight to me.

 

[Alyssasmama]

I went to a concert at an outdoor venue last weekend, and they don't allow vaping or smoking other than designated areas. While it was light out before the concert started, I went to the smoking section to have a vape. The smokers were shocked that I had to vape there and asked a lot of questions about vaping, which I gladly answered and directed them here. Once it was dark out during the concert, I asked the people sitting around me if they minded if I vaped, and not one of them did. One was a doctor, who also asked a lot of questions about it and congratulated me on quitting smoking![/QUOTE


My doctor told me I either quit smoking by the time I see him next year or he was not going to refill my prescription and I asked what about ecig/vaping and he said I don't see a problem with that so I'm a full on vapor

 

[yummi4tunekookie]

Aaaand I apparently don't have anything better to do this morning than keep this thread alive and nitpick at people's posts You guys will have to excuse me because this thread finally broke my annoyed silence on all the threads like this that have come before.

So the statement I quoted above reflects other similar sentiments stated throughout this thread. Is it apparently lost on some of you that while you complain about your vaping rights and the public ignorantly stereotyping you as a filthy smoker, you are blatantly stereotyping patrons of a coffee shop? Not to mention the fact that this thread is up in arms about Starbucks' policy against vaping, while concurrently griping about how bad the coffee is there. Are you getting upset just to get upset? If Starbucks doesn't allow vaping and you HATE Starbucks, I'm not seeing a problem here. You can patronize some other coffee shop and leave the soccer moms and douchebags happily sipping their Starbucks. Everybody is happy!

See? I'm a peacemaker.

I understand what you're trying to say, but I'll reiterate:

"I've learned to let most nasty customers not get to me. While most of the people we get can be douchebags or snotty, pretentious jerks filled with unwarranted self-entitlement, there are just as many customers who are sweet and awesome. It's just that the jerks tend to stick with you mentally for a longer time. I just go into work with a positive attitude and try to stay happy and upbeat--I've learned that the attitude or face you portray usually gets reflected in the customers I deal with, so folks who are usually sourgrapes tend to soften up a bit and leave with a smile.

Then there are some folks who are determined to be unhappy and to make you unhappy as well. I deal with them as best I can, trying to make them leave happy, but if they don't.... Well, that's that."

It seems this has indeed turned into a Starbucks-bashing thread, but I guess what I & minimalsaint are really getting at are the seemingly large quantities of upsetting customers in any service-based job. Maybe we should stick solely to the anti-smoking/vaping policy they've established, but c'mon--we're only human. There's bound to be a rant or two (or three, or seventy-six-thousand) about the company itself!

 

[Sa Da Tay]

I don't understand when people say "I only vape in places where smoking is allowed." As if this is some kind of self-congratulatory way of being super polite. Who exactly are these people trying to be polite to?

Sidestepping the "stealth" aspect for a minute, would you openly vape in your friend's house if your friend stated she would like you not to? How about if your friend owned a coffee shop and requested you don't vape in her shop? Would you still vape? So what's the difference when it's the establishment of someone you don't know? They're a stranger so you aren't going to let them step on your rights? Your argument to me reeks of self-important righteousness in the face of being respectful of other people.

All these stories on here about that jerk security guard/bar owner etc giving someone a hard time about their vape? What if I told you that the day before you walked into their establishment, someone else tried to vape and became annoyingly indignant and entitled when the owner politely asked him to stop? Would you blame the owner for being a little more direct and unwilling to listen now to your vaping story? Some of the attitudes on here- while I realize and hope are not representative of general vaping population- make me dislike vapers, and I vape!

 

[yummi4tunekookie]

that's exactly it. they call it an "Italian Roast", which to me is WAY over-roasted, giving that burnt flavor, but there's been studies that shows it also releases a lot more caffeine. so... addiction wins out over getting a decent cup of coffee. I'm a fan of their business practices and how employees are generally treated, I just think they make terrible coffee.

Hahahahaha, there are a couple of other roasts I won't mention that give off a distinctly FISHY odor when opened or ground. "Ugh, is that unwashed vajayjay I smell, or--oh, wait, it's just ______ roast"

 

[FloydianSlip]

Hahahahaha, there are a couple of other roasts I won't mention that give off a distinctly FISHY odor when opened or ground. "Ugh, is that unwashed vajayjay I smell, or--oh, wait, it's just ______ roast"

Ok I am going to start carrying my own coffee in a thermos now but will still stop by for the Very Berry coffee cake.