A strange gamble with my addiction

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boondongle

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The day I started vaporizing, I quit smoking. I haven't even craved a cigarette. But I want to put things to the test. I had an opened pack, and I want to try one to see if I even like the taste anymore. But here's the thing. I'm smart, so my subconscious is smart, and I'm wondering if maybe this idea isn't a trick. So, to counter that, I gave the open pack to the wifey, and asked her to decide when I should try one. This way, I'm sure it's not just a subconscious desire to smoke again.

What do you think? Good idea? Bad?
 

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If you try one you know It'll taste like schitt. I personally say go for it. You probably won't make it past one or two drags. I go through this every time I light up. Frikkin digusting habit smoking is, yet I can't quit totally. I just say that 5 is much less than the 30 a day I used to do.

I still smoke a couple cigs every day as well. I have noticed in a month of vaping that they do taste horrible and the stink is pretty amazing. I'm going to up my nicotine in the juice to hopefully get off them completely.
 

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Besides, I don't consider vaping a way to quit smoking. It's a better way to smoke. I've quit repeatedly in the past, this isn't quitting...it's substituting something (hopefully) healthier.

The point is, for me, and I LOVE smoking, it's not the same as all those times I slapped on the patch and fought urges. I do virtually the same thing, get the same effect, and enjoy it MORE then I ever did before.
 

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I too quit smokes that same day I go tmy first PV and have not had a single drag from a smoke since. The craving isn't there at all, but I do get the temptation from time to time just try a cig. I'm not sure why, maybe just to reinforce my decision to give them up after 25 years.

Thus far, I've been able to avoid acting on my curiosity. I think part of it is ego. I tell myself that I certainly won't get hooked again, I'm too smart for that(yea, right) but I still have that curiosity.......................
 

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I've smoked maybe two packs over the past 40+ days since I started vaping, and a lot of that total was during a couple of days of travel early on, before I had the battery situation sorted out.

I love vaping and have no desire to smoke - after 25 years smoking a pack a day, I literally don't care if I never have another cigarette - but I wouldn't beat myself up if I had one or two, either. To me, it's not an all-or-nothing scenario. Basically, vaping is so much better that I'm completely confident I'll never go back to smoking, which lifts a lot of the guilt/pressure off of it.
 

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I don't know if I'd do it if I were you. After more than a month of vaping and not smoking I was out with a few friends at the bar. Toward the end of the night I was thinking about how people on here said that cigs tasted terrible after switching to vaping. I figured that I would see for myself what it was like and asked my buddy for one of his Marlboro Mediums. That's what I used to smoke and I figured it would be the best test. I only took 2 drags, but man was it delicious! It tasted like cigs used to when I first started. I gave it back to him just because it was too good and I didn't want to fall back onto analogs.

It could have been the drinking that made it taste so good because I only vape tobacco when I drink, but can't stand the taste of the tobacco when sober. I kind of wonder what a cig would taste like when sober, but I kind of afraid it will taste as good as when I was drinking.
 

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Do it!!!!!!!


If you want to.


People should be able to do what they want without feeling bad.

We're with the minority I guess..... DO IT!

If you have the itch, go ahead and scratch it. I've seen story after story of people trying a cig after a month or more of vaping and it's almost always the same result... "tastes like an ashtray smells". I smoked a few in my first two months and found the same thing.

Doing it will let you know how far you've moved away from cigs. If it flat out is gross no enjoyment, then you'll feel that much more confident that you can be put in any situation and as long as you have your PV then you'll be fine. If you get past the ashtray taste pretty quick and it becomes "like old times", then you'll know you need to keep a tighter leash on yourself and understand you're still susceptible to reverting.

Plus, it will get it off your mind. If you don't go ahead and try it, you'll just keep thinking about it and add unneeded stress to your vaping success (like using a higher mg juice or upping the voltage to kill the crave).
 

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We need to be comfortable with our addiction. After30 years of 2.5 packs a day I to quit the day I first started vaping.I one very stressed day lit the last analog I had in the car two puffs and that was it. Right now I can't even sand the smell of another smoker. It's ironic I can walk past and smell the stench on someones clothes and it makes me want to puke. I still reach for the phantom pack of analogs that used to sit next to the keyboard but grab the PT or PV and I'm more than content. I think if you need to try the analog do it, but if you have a pack around the temptation will be there. Remember the analogs have a lot of other garbage in in it that our bodies were addicted to, giving into it will continue the craving for that junk while vaping gives us only the nic we need. You have to make the decision your comfortable with, if you step back the pv will be waitng there for you. Good luck and happy vaping.
 

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I cut down to about 5 analogs after receiving my first PV. Got my 510 afterwards, cut down to less than one a day (on average).

Biggest hurdle was always a night at the pub, but usually wasn't even interested otherwise. Did this for about 2 months...then I went on a 2 day camping trip with some friends and it ended my vaping days for about three months.

All it took was one pack of analogs to kill all I had accomplished in the first two months. Now I feel like I'm starting all over again. I am, however, already smoking <1 analog a day after 2 weeks.

Simply don't do it. The test should not be avoiding the analogs you bought. It should be not buying the pack at all.
 

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I kept 3 packs of analogs after I "quit" about two weeks after I started vapeing. I wasn't ready to say I'd "never" smoke again. When I DID have a bad day and WANTED an analog really bad I lit one up. It sucked so after a couple drags I put it out. I still, actually tried twice more that day to smoke an analog but I didn't like the taste anymore so I threw them all out.
My opinion: don't force it, don't stress over it. If you stress yourself out you will just go back to your addiction -that's what addicts do. Enjoy your e-cig. Think about all the reasons you love it and how much better, cheaper, healthier than analogs it is. BUT if you find yourself REALLY NEEDING an analog....have one. I bet it won't be as great as you think!

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I've tried two in the 2 and a half months since I started vaping. Both for the reason you described. The first time was two days after I started, and my wife was still smoking. Tasted bad, didn't like it, tossed it after 3 drags. The second time was a couple weeks ago with the same result. I haven't wanted a cigarette since the day I got my 510 and still don't. Those two just reinforced that.
 

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Here is the thing.

If you are thinking about it like this chances are you are just craving an analog and trying to create a scapegoat reason to "try" one.

I do the same thing, except I see other people smoke and feel as if it's not cool to vap infront of them so I will smoke a real cig with them. In reality I just want an analog cig once in awhile.
 

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You're right when you wonder if this isn't a "trick" on your part, as you say.

I don't know how much psychology you've had, but I re-read your post:

"I haven't even craved a cigarette. But I want to put things to the test. I had an opened pack, and I want to try one to see if I even like the taste anymore. But here's the thing. I'm smart, so my subconscious is smart, and I'm wondering if maybe this idea isn't a trick. So, to counter that, I gave the open pack to the wifey, and asked her to decide when I should try one. This way, I'm sure it's not just a subconscious desire to smoke again.

What do you think? Good idea? Bad?"

So, since you asked, some simple psychological observations.

Plenty of people here mix analogs and e-cigs, as they wish, for as long as they wish, in whatever proportion they wish. Plenty of people like you -- and me -- give up analogs with their first e-cig and never smoke another analog. Everybody's different.

I was a 45+ years 2 pack a day, full-flavor, 100mm smoker. LOVED smoking.

To my astonishment, I quit analogs the minute my V4L kit arrived! Hadn't planned to quit -- just got interested when somebody gave me a puff, so I ordered. Others here report the same thing. Stopped analogs immediately.

I LOVE vaping!

I don't mind being around analog smokers at all. I like to drink too (gave my remaining four cartons of analogs to my bartender). I just prefer vaping to smoking. That simple.

The "trick" you mention is exactly that, psychologically.

It's gamey as hell to involve your "wifey" and make HER "responsible" for "when I should try one." Not "if" but "when," you say. Sounds like your "smart" unconscious has already made the not-smart decision to undermine you by placing the "tempting" or "curious" analogs in her hands.

If she's smart, she'll hand them right back to you and say, "No thanks, buster. This is YOUR game with yourself. I'm not playing. You want to try analogs -- try 'em. It's got nothing to do with me. I love you either way. I loved you as a smoker, I love you as a vaper, and I'll love you if you mix 'em up. I'm not your parent."

NOW, you've involved not only her but US in this little "good idea, bad idea" game. Which is fine. That's what the forum's here for. Honest observations and sharing experiences.

As others have said, do whatever you want. Smoke an analog or don't.

It's the gaminess of all this -- and frankly the childishness of it, like all self-destructive subconscious games -- that gives your subconscious self-undermining tactic away. Or should, if you're as "smart" as you say.

You're a grown man. What you do is YOUR choice and responsibility. This "trick" you're playing on yourself, your wife, and others (by asking if it's a "good idea or bad" to "test" yourself with an analog) is not adult behavior.

We've all done it at some time or another. The REAL trick is to see it for what it is and lovingly tell your inner undermining child to either buzz off or grow up.

Like vaping? Vape.

Like smoking? Smoke.

Like mixing 'em? Mix 'em.

Everybody's different and it's all okay.

That'll be $200, please. You're welcome.
 

jghunter1

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The "trick" you mention is exactly that, psychologically.

It's gamey as hell to involve your "wifey" and make HER "responsible" for "when I should try one." Not "if" but "when," you say. Sounds like your "smart" unconscious has already made the not-smart decision to undermine you by placing the "tempting" or "curious" analogs in her hands.

If she's smart, she'll hand them right back to you and say, "No thanks, buster. This is YOUR game with yourself. I'm not playing. You want to try analogs -- try 'em. It's got nothing to do with me. I love you either way. I loved you as a smoker, I love you as a vaper, and I'll love you if you mix 'em up. I'm not your parent."

NOW, you've involved not only her but US in this little "good idea, bad idea" game. Which is fine. That's what the forum's here for. Honest observations and sharing experiences.

As others have said, do whatever you want. Smoke an analog or don't.

It's the gaminess of all this -- and frankly the childishness of it, like all self-destructive subconscious games -- that gives your subconscious self-undermining tactic away. Or should, if you're as "smart" as you say.

You're a grown man. What you do is YOUR choice and responsibility. This "trick" you're playing on yourself, your wife, and others (by asking if it's a "good idea or bad" to "test" yourself with an analog) is not adult behavior.

We've all done it at some time or another. The REAL trick is to see it for what it is and lovingly tell your inner undermining child to either buzz off or grow up.

Like vaping? Vape.

Like smoking? Smoke.

Like mixing 'em? Mix 'em.

Everybody's different and it's all okay.

That'll be $200, please. You're welcome.


Pay the man!!!!!:rolleyes::lol::D
 
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