A thought about symptoms

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Zal42

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In reading various health complaints here, it had occurred to me that many people are oversimplifying when trying to diagnose themselves. Diagnosing ailments is a very difficult thing to do, and very easy to get wrong. Some people can have adverse reactions to vaping, but many times they attribute new symptoms to vaping when really they are caused by something else.

For example, most new vapors have also recently quit smoking. Quitting smoking all by itself causes many adverse health effects until your body recovers. If you start vaping at the same time, it's pretty easy to attribute those symptoms to the vaping when they're really caused by the absence of smoking.

This can get subtle. For example, one or two posters developed unusual medical problems when they switched to vaping, but it turned out that the vaping wasn't causing them -- the smoking was suppressing the symptoms of an underlying condition they had for a while. When they stopped, those symptoms appeared.

Another example, recently many posters are complaining about symptoms that sound like what you get during allergy season. Are their symptoms normal allergies?

The human tendency is to attribute unusual events to anything that is both new and occupying our attention. When people start vaping, it's perfectly natural to assume that anything untoward that starts happening is because of that.

But correlation should not imply causation.

If anyone has symptoms that are truly worrying, they should see a doctor. But if they've developed symptoms and want to know whether they're from vaping, then it's possible to do one of the things that a doctor will do when diagnosing these things... go through the list of possible causes and remove them, one at a time, until the symptoms go away.

Did you recently quit smoking, start vaping, and get symptoms? Then you can stop vaping (but don't start smoking) and see if the symptoms go away. if they do, then you know the cause is related to vaping.

Make a list of everything new: changed your laundry detergent? Started hanging out in a new part of town/building/room? Started eating new food or in a new restaurant? Bought new clothes? got a new pet? Etc. Then remove one of those things, wait a week or two, and see if things improve. If they don't, then remove the next, and so on.

You should eventually find the cause.

Even if it turns out to be vaping, you're not done yet -- it could be that you're reacting to one of the flavorings used (cinnamon is always suspect, for example). Try vaping unflavored juice for a while and see if things improve. If so, then you know it's one of the flavorings. And so on.

Anyway, I don't know if any of this is helpful to anyone, but I thought it worth sharing.
 

ElProximo

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This very idea crossed my mind today as well. I read an astonishingly long thread about 'symptoms'. Well.. I glossed over the thousands suggested or experienced heh.

What I would remind people is this - In any given year you might experience any number of illnesses, problems, abnormalities. Ironically some 'abnormal' health symptom is 'normal'. You have them.
A strange itch and rash.
A pesky cough.
Some stomach complaints, ........, vomiting happen to most people 2 or 3 times a year.
Mysteriously bad breath for a week, low sex drive, tinnitus or blurry eyes are all typical 1 time events in any given year.
Regardless of Vaping or not.
Now, its not a bad thing you are monitoring your health changes. It is also 'rational' to suspect a new habit coinciding with a new health is may be the cause. Your doctor asks you 'Have you done/eaten/stopped anything lately?' for a reason.

Having said that, I think the OP gives something to think about - often this is just unrelated coincidence.
It might be 'related' in that you stopped smoking cigarettes and are having an 'immune system low',
or,
It might just be that you ate too much cake and feel ill coincidentally (and unrelated) in the same week you were vaping.

Maybe you have sore muscles because you worked out too much (or not enough) and vaping just happens to be something else you did that week.

No doubt we all have to pay attention and if you are feeling nauseous consistently after Vaping then you might have a correlation,
but,
honestly, I would guess maybe 80% of the symptoms I saw in one thread were, surely, coincidence and others to do with cigarette withdrawal.

Anyways, very good point OP and I just wanted to echo the message.
 

TNT

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The human tendency is to attribute unusual events to anything that is both new and occupying our attention. When people start vaping, it's perfectly natural to assume that anything untoward that starts happening is because of that.

But correlation should not imply causation.

Funny, I just brought this up in another thread. I work in the internet business, and I'm amazed at the connections people make. "I got your internet service last month and today my computer won't turn on. I refuse to believe there's not a connection."

That's not rare... I deal with something like that at least several times a day.
 
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