A tobacco e-cig?

[Webby]

Awwww man...

I was just going to bed and you have to throw this out there? Considering there isn't a "snus-stand" close, I guess I'm headed back to the store tonight -

...like I could go to sleep when the answer could have been right under our upper lip the whole time...

 

[TropicalBob]

I've used the penstyle (Janty Kissbox) e-cig for this experiment -- and the vapor is still very good late into the evening. I have a Janty Dura, but think that cart cavity might be too small. I knew the penstyle would be fine, as would a cigar or pipe cart.

The draw isn't affected any more than having a regular filter material present.

Swedish snus, which I often order online, goes all the way to 17mg per pouch (for regular size portions; I'm using mini size). A regular pouch would be a snug fit, but might make it into a penstyle. No way do I think a regular portion would fit a mini cig cart.

A Camel snus is said to be 8mg. The mini I've been using is 6mg.

The next time I try this, I'll add a drop of Bickford Kahlua flavor.

Final note: There's a tasteless snus from Oomph that used to be called Wine and Chef and I think is now called Wine and Dine, or something like that. Very powerful nicotine hit and would not add any of its own flavor to a vapor.

And, yeah, if worse comes to worst, I could use this should liquid be banned.

 

[deewal]

Thanks Bob. I'm using Janty Kissbox's as well. So i need mini pouches to be certain and regular may be a squeeze. (I'm sure you find out before i do) I've just looked on The Northerner and i'm not sure what the difference between a Portion and a Pouch is. There's so many different brands and strengths it's hard to know where to start.

Congratulations on another great idea.

 

[yvilla]

Kudos T Bob!

I never thought I'd try snus - but you've convinced me.

 

[Mary Kay]

T Bob..A silly question I am sure..but would P.G. be ok? And I am sure you must have vaped that first mini snuss dry by now..how long did it last? I wonder if you could soak it a second time? I was thinking a drop of favor would be nice! Did the kahlua work?
What a concept! You have a nice mind..well at least a curious one..

 

[Harry Crazington]

Brilliant idea TBob.
I took the stuffing out of a cart, filled the cart with some Farmers Gold Additive Free Stuff Yer Own tobacco (just to measure how much it'd hold).
Dumped the contents into a Mr Coffee filter & twisted it into a little pouch then cut off excess with scissors.
Set the little pouch into a soup bowl & added a few drops of Everclear 150 proof and about 10 drops of PG onto the pouch & let it soak for about an hour.
Took the damp pouch & carefully stuffed it into the cart, and it works great. Even has a tobacco taste. I don't know if or how much nicotine it's delivering but it tastes good! This process even works with my herbal medication and it tastes very good too!

 

[TropicalBob]

Way to improvise, Harry!

FYI: The words portion and pouch are interchangeable. Same thing -- little tea bag-like packs of pasteurized tobacco. Some hardcore snusers think of snus as tins of loose tobacco. I don't use it that way. Just personal preference. And it wouldn't work well if used loose in a cart.

My own soaked mini is still producing lots of vapor going into its second day. I made one attempt to add some VG, but the thing wouldn't absorb more.

PG would be even better, in my mind, because of its anti-bacterial properties, but I don't have pure PG on hand. VG can be easily bought at a health food store, so that's what I use as a fluid to make vapor.

The only snus I have on hand at the moment are from Discreet, a new brand, and all are sweet. I'd rather have other choices and will order some today. Snus with pure tobacco flavor include the Lucky Strike mini, which I often use. And I want some tasteless Wine&Dine by Oomph, so I can try flavor experiments.

Great to see others experimenting. Do post your results and/or impressions. I'm still seeing lots of vapor from this Kissbox.

 

[nikomoul]

Wonder what my husband will say when I tell him he HAS to quit using that dumb Silver Creek stuff and buy Gras from now on!! I probably wouldn't be able to print it out here.
That is brilliant, my gras friend!
And here I thought I was being smug because I just did a very nice tobacco absolute mix-up, very smooth, sweet and lovely bouquet, hint of mint. Damn. Gotta shop again.

Hi Kate,
What was your mixture exactly?

 

[nikomoul]

No waste, for sure. You were on the right track, ms. I read some posts about using snus as the source for nic liquid, but didn't try it. But this ... what a clean way to get nicotine vapor. My guess is the Camel snus could create a roll that might fit even better than the rectangular bag I'm vaping now.

I have no idea how long this will last, but I've been using it four hours or so now.

Tbob,
Can you recommend what soaking concoction i can use since vg and pg are not so great for me? Can i soak the Came SNUS in absolut alone? Or what if i put 20% pg (causes dry throat) and 80% absolut? What do ya think?
Thanks

 

[PeteMcArthur]

TBob. A couple of questions. (your probably gonna get hundreds soon)
1. What Atomiser/E-cig are you using ?
2. Do you know where i can get snus in the UK as it's Banned in Europe as far as i know. Jeez ! What a crazy ^&*%ing world.

Snus available at
Buy Snus, Order Swedish snus online world wide - BuySnus.com
Northerner. Buy Swedish Snus & Snuff Online. The Healthy Smokeless Tobacco Alternative

It's only the sale in the EU that is banned, buy from Sweden and it's legal, not cheap though.If you just want to try it, PM me and I can send a can to you.

Pete

 

[nikomoul]

Also, can I use the mini pouch for the 510 or is it too big?

 

[rejoice]

Thanks Bob,for posting this. I am going to give this a try. I want something that taste like tobacco for the liquids kinda fail and if FDA does remove the liquid than this maybe a answer.

 

[sherid]

I might need to add that when I say snus, I mean portion/pouch snus only. No loose stuff. The mini snus I use look like tiny tea bags. I can insert and remove them easily and they pose no threat to the atomizer.

I am trying this with some Camel Frost Snus in the 801 adapter for my Stick. Unfortunately, I have an automatic Stick which is a piece of crap. Anyway, the bag is really tight, and when I stuff it, it seems to tear. Any advice on what to do? You said you "pinched" it, but I'm not clear on what you meant by that.

 

[WinningQuitter]

unreal.

I just used a half a packet of Camel Frost soaked in VG in my 510, and it's vaping like a champ.

Next, I'm going to try teabags to cover up the side that's open in the frost packet so I don't get any snus leaking into my atomizer.

This is too frigging cool. Thanks again for the idea TB




WQ

 

[bearscreek]

For those of you asking about using PG instead of VG, the snus doesn't dissolve nearly as well in the PG. It will dissolve well in alcohol, though.

 

[sherid]

unreal.

I just used a half a packet of Camel Frost soaked in VG in my 510, and it's vaping like a champ.

Next, I'm going to try teabags to cover up the side that's open in the frost packet so I don't get any snus leaking into my atomizer.

This is too frigging cool. Thanks again for the idea TB




WQ

If you used a half one, how did you cover the open end or did you just leave it open? Did you split it before soaking it? This is really messy, so I think I must be doing something wrong.

 

[nocomply]

For those of you asking about using PG instead of VG, the snus doesn't dissolve nearly as well in the PG. It will dissolve well in alcohol, though.

could you dissolve it in say half the VG, but double the snus....then, add double the PG after dissolving time?

doh...I was thinking soaking it, then pulling it out, and vaping the liquid in your current cart....

I guess you might could still dilute it, to take the VG levels down doing double or triple, in half or 1/3 the liquid.

It's interesting no matter how you look at it. I got 50 snus, 16 oz. of PG, and 4 oz. of VG, and ready to do something.

 

[TropicalBob]

I wouldn't suggest slitting them open, or using loose snus. That would endanger your atomizer. A mini pouch of snus fits well in a penstyle cart. I haven't tried one in my other e-cig carts, simply because I ran out of snus and am ordering more!

Alcohol will just not make good vapor. No doubt a reason PG was chosen (in addition to cheap cost) is its ability to vaporize well and act as a carrier for nicotine. VG does the same, but is sweeter and actually makes even more vapor. It's also more expensive.

If you have a problem with both PG and VG, I'd say this is not for you. I'm not aware of any other safe vapor carrier.

When I went to put the soaked snus into the cart, it seemed too big. So I pinched down one end and stuck that in the cart, then "screwed" the thing into place. I poked it into final position with a pair of tweezers (but be careful not to tear that little bag).

The original VG lasted about 8 hours of regular use. I put some more VG into the cart, but the flavor wasn't the same, so I'm moving that Kissbox back to regular carts I have on hand. This might be an "emergency" way to get vapor -- and I get the bulk of my daily nicotine from snus, dissolvables and puffing a pipe. I don't view this as my everyday way to vape.

Now if some company put out little dry, cylindrical bags of pure snus tobacco .. ones that fit exactly into carts .. and we could add VG at our end ... well, we'd have a tobacco-based e-cig for sure.

I bet the anti's would freak out more over that than they did over our liquid with nicotine in it!

 

[TropicalBob]

Sherri: I'm looking forward to trying Camel this way. I don't have any on hand, but can get some locally tomorrow. The Camel pouch is a bit bigger than the General Mini Mint I tested with, so I can't tell you for certain that it will fit a penstyle.

Look forward to testing other snus in other carts, however. If I can find one that will fit a 901, I'll use my Screwdriver to make copious vapor.

 

[sherid]

Sherri: I'm looking forward to trying Camel this way. I don't have any on hand, but can get some locally tomorrow. The Camel pouch is a bit bigger than the General Mini Mint I tested with, so I can't tell you for certain that it will fit a penstyle.

Look forward to testing other snus in other carts, however. If I can find one that will fit a 901, I'll use my Screwdriver to make copious vapor.

The Camel seems just a bit too large, so it tends to shred. I'm sure that I am doing something wrong, but I will keep trying. I can get some flavor and a little bit of vapor from it, and the flavor of the Frost is pretty good. The biggest problem is the only penstyle I have is the 801 for my Janty Stick, and my Stick sucks (lol). I suspect I need a new atomizer or maybe it is just because I have the automatic.