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Richie G

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Thanks TB! I appreciate the answer and now I feel pretty good about ordering this stuff.

I'm right behind you, Sharon.

TB's find is epic, IMHO. Searching for snus in brick and mortar buildings is not so easy here in NY though. I made 4 stops until I found a dealer... the tobacco shop that I used to frequent when I smoked those foul things called cigarettes. At first, the owner of the store, who speaks a lot like Apu Nahasapeemapetilon of Springfield, told me;

"I had to send those back. Nobody would buy them. They have dates too"

(expiration dates, apparently)

He then had one of those *wait a second* looks on his face. Off he went to the beverage case where the Snapples are stored. I had no idea what he was doing there as there was a display case for snus behind the counter. I thought he was thirsty or taking care of another customer when he pulled from behind some 30 bottles of assorted Snapples a tin of Camel snus mellow. he handed it to me and said -- "this is a gift for you, my friend".

"A gift?" I asked

"Yes sir. You are a good customer and my friend. This is for you"

Feeling grateful but obligated I bought $10 of mega Lotto and thanked him. Later I realized the tin was opened and 2 packets were missing. LOL

Ok, these are full packets, not minis. They are too big for the penstyle cart as TB pointed out but I did manage to get one to fit in there sans poking a hole in the mesh. I soaked it in VG like Bob explained but I added a few drops of Everclear. It was a messy shove to be sure but it did satisfy my curiosity. It works! It works very nicely, in fact. I got clouds of vapor but more importantly a bit of a throat hit. It's not enough of a throat hit for me but it's not non-existent like, say, ecopure liquid. And, it tastes like tobacco -- not a facsimile thereof, real tobacco like a cigarette but ultra smooth.

Unlike Bob, I was able to top off the cart easily with the same VG that the snus soaked in. Who knew that the best cart filler of all is real tobacco? LOL

Today, I didnt use the snus cart. I started the day with a fresh cart and KENT liquid. To this point I can still taste the smooth tobacco from the snus lingering in my atty. In fact, the filler in the cart is dark brown now, proving that the snus sticks in the atty awhile. It's not unpleasant at all, it's a rather nice blend. I can't wait to try the other flavors -- I'm hoping for an improved throat hit with the mint flavors.

Tropical Bob -- you've out-done yourself this time. This is the most pleasant thing I ever inhaled and one helluva alternative if the e-cig apocalypse ever hits. Thank you so much for sharing this gem.
 

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I'd suggest putting a drop or two of a Bickford flavor into the VG. One drop will do for the small amount of VG a snus will absorb from a spoon. You can order online. Avoid flavors with oils ... My own preference is Bickford Kahlua, cause I love coffee flavor.

P.S. So glad it works for you. This is my "emergency" e-fluid now. We also share a love of Kent. My USB Kissbox setup next to my laptop has Kent e-liquid in it, while my battery-powered Kissbox has a soaked Discreet snus now.
 
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Woah, glad I stumbled across this thread. Thank you for posting this discovery, TBob. On a related side note, I found out they now sell General snus at a tobacco shop not far from me. If I didn't have a smoking friend who needed to make an American Spirit purchase I would have just kept ordering online, since I haven't been in that shop in months. Excitement all around! Thanks again for the info :)
 

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I'm just not sure, Deanne. It costs very little to find out ... and you might like the snus if they don't work out for the carts. I have not tried putting anything in the Dura cart yet. Since the mini is a tight fit in the penstyle, I doubt I could stuff it into the Dura. And I don't think it will fit the 901 for the Screwdriver.

Good for you, Ninianne, finding General in a local store. I have such a store near me and buy General Mini Mint snus there. Those fit just fine.
 

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Just tried it in the rubber tip, and also in my 401 cart, which is the largest that I have at the moment.....doesn't fit right. I got it down into my 401 cart, but was so tight I couldn't draw on it. I put it into the rubber 801 tip, and it would only fit half-way in. I put the other half down inside the barrel of the 801 atomizer and took a draw. I had some draw, but little vapor(good taste though).

I might have to wait until I get actual 801 carts to try again. Thanks TBob!
 

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I'm just not sure, Deanne. It costs very little to find out ... and you might like the snus if they don't work out for the carts. I have not tried putting anything in the Dura cart yet. Since the mini is a tight fit in the penstyle, I doubt I could stuff it into the Dura. And I don't think it will fit the 901 for the Screwdriver.

Good for you, Ninianne, finding General in a local store. I have such a store near me and buy General Mini Mint snus there. Those fit just fine.

TB how are you atty holding up using the snus mini and vg .
 

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Atomizer is fine, so far. I made sure I did NOT use a warrantied Janty atomizer, however. For this experiment, I'm using a generic penstyle atomizer I got awhile back from Ruyandirect. No decline yet, athough this is "dirty" e-smoking. Tobacco quickly discolors any solution. I should also note that after killing atomizers in the past, I no longer "wash" them in any way. They must live or die on their own! I think I drowned a few ....

Nforcer: Yes. But make sure you buy mini snus, preferably white mini snus. These pure, dry snus will allow maximum VG absorption and are the right size for a penstyle cart core.
 
Absolutely wow.

My mini snus hasn't come in yet and all I had was the 24gram (large) pouches (portions) in the refrigerator. This was a sample tin I had sent for and it's General White (I guess that's the name of the flavor?).

I cut the top off and took out what I thought was over 1/2 of the tobacco. Soaked it in a tablespoon with some PG and 4 drops of Praline flavoring. I figured I HAD to do that flavoring because I couldn't stand even the smell of that snus...nasty ;).

Once soaked, it was still too large, even with a portion taken out to fit in my cart. I am using a 901 with a Prodigy. So I tweaked it until it fit and I could get a decent draw.

Not crazy about the flavor yet, but this definitely works! I think if I'm no longer able to get/afford e-juice, I can afford the 16 oz. PG which I think will last me almost a life-time and perhaps flavoring. The snus I sent for was $.99 for I think it was 10 portions of mini.

I'm going to see how long one of these portions last. Super neat. Thank you so much TB. I think this is the best alternative I have seen yet. Matter fact, IMO, it is the BEST alternative I've seen.

I just have to figure out how to get a good flavor in there. Perhaps it's just I can't stand the General White. I have I think it's strawberry and peach coming along with mint and one other kind. We'll see.
 
Kellie, for me it's more just trial and error so far. I haven't gotten my mini-portions in yet so I don't know about that.

With the PG (I have the 16oz. bottle) I put 1/2 capful in a tablespoon with 4 drops of Lorann's Pralines & Cream flavoring, soaked the portion and then I took the what was left of the liquid and put it into a small dropper bottle. I'm using this to drip on the atomizer when I think I need too.

I'm just wondering how much nicotine we are getting this way. I'd think it would be less which would be great!
 
Ordered from Getsnus.com on Wednesday and got the order today. Last time, my free tin, was just as fast. Soaking the mini portion (Strawberry) now. The general white I couldn't even stand the smell, and even after doctoring it up with flavoring, it was better, but only tolerable. The strawberry smells delicious.

Will let you know how the mini portion works in my 901 cart on my Prodigy.
 
Just curious if anyone has had any success with the 510 or 901 with the mini snus? It would be awsome if it would work. Would flat tip or round tip work better. Also what about how much flavoring to use? I have some flavoring from liquid express I ordered wine & dine which is flavorless

Kellie: The 4gram size was still too big for the 901 and that's all I use. I could cut it down, but that ends up being a mess. Still, when I did cut it down and used the peach, it was quite tasty.
 

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I bought some Camel Mellow snus and two tins of General Mini Mint on Sunday, to do further tests. The Camel was soaked in about 1ml of vegetable glycerine, to which two drops of 48mg tasteless e-liquid was added. It was difficult to stuff the Camel into the penstyle cart -- and very messy.

It didn't taste particularly good, either. Before long, I had a mess. Liquid has even gotten through the atomizer to the automatic switch on my Kissbox. That upset me. I dried out the atomizer and switch, dumped the Camel snus and replaced it with a Janty Cappuccino cart! Ah.

Again, at best, this snus experiment might do for emergencies. But vaping liquid from a snus just can't compete with the quality of commercial carts or liquid.

It's so .. dirty .. that I do fear for atomizers.
 

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lol. sounds like we are getting to the point of just smoking real cigarettes. i wonder what kind of nicotine you are getting with this method

Exactly what I was thinking. I love the genius of the expermentation, and the idea that this is a way around a future ban; but I kind of see it as a backward step if I were to take it. I am trying to get away from tobacco and possibly nicotine.

Of course I will probably try it. I think I would get the Wine & Dine unflavored for the "just in case of a ban" possibility.

Still, you guys rock with everything you try. It is fun to read about and consider.
 
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