AC is not what it used to be for me.....

[Mr. Tasty Vapor]

You as well as 39 other people. I talked to Geoff in the chat, once he heard the word co op, he said "I don't get involved in co ops" and closed the chat window. I know what that told me. It's unfortunate though, cause all I wanted to know is if that was what I should expect from TV if I were to ever order juice from them. But those co ops all end up in the classys, so take it for what it's worth.

Now THAT is the furthest thing from anything I've ever done since I began this business. I'm throwing in the BS towel on that one.

And no, I'm not responsible for coop juices. Once it's third party liquid...not our responsibility.

And remember people, some people DO have the propensity to BS and embellish. Neither I nor any of my employees disconnect from chat unless someone is rude, abusive, or the conversation has simply come to a close.

 

[Mr. Tasty Vapor]

I dont know if I can mention the vendor, he locked the other thread for that

mentioning vendors is not a violation, shameless promotion of other vendors on a vendors forum is not proper etiquette.

 

[zbasspro]

Well, I apologize for bringing the issue here. I edited my post out of respect for TV. I know it's hard for some people to see but some people just want straight answers, feel they don't get them, and get frustrated. The people that have/had issues with the co ops I would think wanted to use TV as a juice supplier and didn't just wake up one day and decide to "flame" them. I can only speak for myself though. I will refrain from anything other than straight questions and would appreciate straight answers in return.

1. By offering 5ML of a doubler in a 6ML bottle and saying you can add 1ML of concentrated nic to them is that REALLY letting you "sample" TV juices as they are intended to taste?
2. With all the talk of "steeping" is it a good idea to go splitting up doublers immediately into 5ML bottles?
3. Could #2 be responsible for some of the flavor irregularities in the co ops, as well as some containing more flavoring than others and may explain the "goo"?
4. could "subjective" be an excuse for all of the above
5. If ANY of the above are the case are the co op runners in fact doing the community or TV a "favor"

You see I actually went to Geoff out of respect and concern in the beginning. I mean an answer to any one of those questions could have only resulted in a positive outcome for TV under the circumstances. Instead I was brushed off which I now see is fairly common practice. It's become pretty well discussed now, and could have been easily taken care of. But now it's the unhappy people who are out to "flame" TV, and it's easy to point the finger at them, but all anyone ever wanted is the same thing as I do now, and that's an honest answer.

Same thing with my wife. She liked the gingerbread, she uses flavorings, it's obvious to everyone the flavorings are from another vendor, by making excuses you only further frustrate people. People are understanding. Take this thread as an example. Geoff has explained changes have taken place with this flavor. He has also said that the vast majority are happy with them. Totally understand, if you're not in the majority and like AC then may want to shop for a new supplier. But don't bait and switch, by doing that those that are going AC shopping are also going to find new suppliers for the other flavors they like from TV.

 

[zbasspro]

Now you're going to straight lie Geoff! People know me, they know better than that and so do you. I will not comment anymore. People smell the BS and sure isn't coming from this direction.

Now THAT is the furthest thing from anything I've ever done since I began this business. I'm throwing in the BS towel on that one.

And no, I'm not responsible for coop juices. Once it's third party liquid...not our responsibility.

And remember people, some people DO have the propensity to BS and embellish. Neither I nor any of my employees disconnect from chat unless someone is rude, abusive, or the conversation has simply come to a close.

 

[Mr. Tasty Vapor]

This is a thread about AC. The issues about AC have been addressed. This thread is closed.