Advice for new vapers, skip the eGo battery kits.

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I gave up setting up outlook on my computer YEARS ago. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Haha trust me I know outlook can be a serious pain in the .... I first started out doing technical phone support and God I hated it especially on Mac's. But sometimes it can be very simple so that's why I used the reference lol.

Beerbrah, yes that's about right. If you think the Vamo will be too much at first I suggest a eGo twist, perfect for low resistance 1.8 or lower and some higher resistance coils. To keep of very simple I would suggest a DCT clearomizer or Star dust. Some people may not like having to replace and buy replacement coils because they might not know what ohm value to get where the two I mentioned will be around 2.4. Whereas the vivi nova, evod, ProTank, ce4 will have replaceable coils. Use a 1.8 to 2.4 ohm coil for standard batteries. If you have a variable voltage battery such as a mod or ego twist then 1.5 upwards to 3.3 and even higher. But if you want to rebuild your own coils you absolutely need an APV mod. Some beginners will have the technical know how to make their own coils so we shouldn't forget about them :).
 

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I know a ton of people recommend Fasttech, but I just have a question about how the Vamo holds up. Some have said that they got theirs and have had no problems whatsoever and then others have said that it crapped out within days/weeks. What have yalls experience been?

Vamo's have/had 2 major problems. 1. solved with v2, that was the small spring.

The second known continual problem is the washer that's around the center pin. My first vamo, a chrome one experience problems, only because I tightened the rsst down too much and it pushed the washer through, and the center pin was contacting metal on metal causing a short. I tried to fix it, ended up breaking it. Ordered another vamo, stainless steel. The stainless is not slippery at all and the finish will wear out. Just be careful not to overtighten your atty's and you won't have any problems. That and make sure you use the right battery.
 

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Sorry but got to say, if I had never vaped and was looking to start and found this thread, it would put me off without a doubt, I am not really new to vaping, and I have a VV device, but talks of wattages, tanks, making wicks to me is not newbie friendly, most smokers looking to vaping, just want something simple to get off smokes, most will step up, but I for one will say this thread would not helped me, just said to hell with this and gone and bought a pad, but that's just my :2c:

I agree, the vast majority of people wanting to try eCigs want what the big companies are offering at a premium, a pre filled carto that screws on to a battery and just works, they don't even want to replace the heads on a clearo or use a needle tip bottle to fill one. That is why the big eCig companies are aiming at that market. After a while on this site you realise the people here are the equivalent of computer geeks, most people want a computer to look at the Internet, they don't need to upgrade their graphics card to a liquid cooled one that pumps out a few extra pixels.
 

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That's a pretty good combo OP. "Back in the day" the eGo stuff was new and "all the rage". The VV eGo stuff is still OK. Times change. I still have a couple of eGo units. I loan them out and get them back again. :p I like em. I use a VV box mod though.

Spinner/Twist/VAMO are not identical to me, but I'd use any of them.

The best advice for a newbie...get a workable SOMETHING and plan on a 6 month lifetime for it. You don't even know what you want yet. Just get vaping. Upgrade later. You could end up with cig-a-likes, box mods, Mechs, APV's, all the way up to Provari-priced stuff.
 

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Sorry to not agree with this thread.
I Own a Vamo, nice mod if taken care of. However there are many Nice mods available. Personal choice is just that.
As to Skip the EGOs.........:lol:..........Worth owning a few for shear convenience. While running errands, I'd rather risk loosing an EGO than a nice Mod.
 

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At the end of the day it's all about personal preference.
I started with an ego kit and thought it was great, until I came on here :laugh:

I've now got 650 egos, a VV ego, novas, Protank, evod, iClear30 etc etc. My collection grows daily.

I still stick to a 650mAh battery and nova or evod head for daily use and the bigger stuff for at home. My kit has to fit in a shirt pocket for work. I've also got a Vmod 2.0, cos of the pocket friendly size, but still in the learning curve of squonking- so it doesn't leave the house yet.

What I'm basically saying is I prefer compact size for work and light saber size for home use. Just waiting on my Vamo v2 from fasttech now, so the ego VV will become a back-up. Plus the vamo v3 is starting to grow on me, it's in my wishlist, it looks better if you squint at it :laugh:
 

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That is how it worked for you. Here is my story.

Started with Ego-Cs. Bought a Vamo. Still used my Ego-C batterys more. Bought a Gripper. Still Use my Ego-C Batterys more.

Some people just LIKE the smaller form factor and simple use.

Don't get me wrong I am happy you found something that works for you. Just don't assume everyone is the same. :)

Very true... There is no way in hell I can stroll around work with a 8 to 10 inch mech in my pocket :blush: ... for that reason I sport 650mAh eGo's around town and work..... now at home the iTaste MVP all the way..
 

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All things considered I have to agree -- at least to a point... I wish I'd taken the time, and not be intimidated by the techno-jargon, and taken the leap to get a Vamo setup right from the beginning... It is my 'preferred' vape when I'm around the house, but I do have to admit I still use my eGos more often than not when I'm out and about simply because of the size/weight factor...

But even that depends on my mood and what I'll be doing when I'm out... If it's running around with a lot of stops it'll be an eGo; if going to meet friends for lunch or something like that it'll be the Vamo... :)
 

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Have to agree... Especially if you squint at it long enough... It's on my wishlist too... :)

I've got 2 orders outstanding from fasttech. So I'm gonna wait til they arrive first, before pressing the button on the v3.

I used to fit air conditioning years ago, the v3 reminds me of a length of ducting
 

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    I learned from every PV I owned along the way. I started out with an eGo-T (latest & greatest at the time). It allowed me to end a 50+ year smoking habit, so how could I possibly say anything negative about it!
    Because I took the time to learn how to optimize the performance of whatever I happened to be using, I can get just as great a vape from my $2 mini box mod as I get from my $200 Provari.
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    IMO the bottom line is learning how to use what you have is far more important than what you have.
     
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    GracieD

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    I am fairly new to vaping (a little over a month). I started with a 650 ego kit and quickly purchased a 1300 spinner. I bought the spinner so quickly because I was having a very hard time with taste. I think I suffered from a variety of reasons for no taste in the beginning....not enough water, vaper's tongue, quitting analogs. While I am glad I have the spinner, I really don't play around with the voltage much....using evod 1.8 and my starter battery are working quite well for me as of now. I am getting better taste all around and they are relatively easy to carry around. I really like the size of the 650 for carrying in my purse and may actually have to purchase another one or two...especially as the husband is slowly getting interested in vaping. I think it will be quite some time before I make the jump any further than that...if ever. I consider myself pretty savvy with a computer software not hardware) but I have to say I had a hard time remember all the ohms...voltage....etc and what is best for what. But at this point I have a hard time remembering much....age I think :)
     

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    Although I do agree on that statement but I think my biggest thing is that the idea of a VV/VW mod is made out to be way more complicated than what it truly is. It can be complicated, heck you can make it more complicated than you need to. If you plan on using a standard atty, not wrapping a coil, it doesn't involve too much except changing the voltage to a higher or lower value. Again this is my opinion but I really feel people are accepting the fact that adjusting the voltage is difficult compared to just pressing a button and fire and forget. Out of curiosity I wanted to teach my mother how to use it. She smokes analogs and will not try an ecig. I set it at 3.3v and told her to press the ' + ' button until it doesn't taste good. Once it tastes burnt, press the ' - ' button. Well needless to say she figured it out. That's all it is for BASIC usage. It's not complicated at all. Maybe it's all the other features involved that may make it seem more complicated as some may get overwhelmed by "more." When people come to a forum as a beginner asking for advice no one typically considers a mod for a first PV. They just assume that a standard battery is the "standard." Well instead of just suggesting a standard eGo, why not a mod like a Vamo and explaining how VV works in its basic form? People suggest a twist to new users... it's the same exact thing but with a LCD screen (easier)! There isn't much to learn on a standard battery besides turning it on or off. The assumption is new users don't want complicated so they have nothing to learn based on this assumption. They fill the tank, or heck have it pre-filled, and just press the button rinse and repeat. They are not rebuilding atomizers or changing wicks. So what is the difference between an eGo twist and a VV mod in terms of what a beginner will use it for? There isn't much to learn in changing a coil with a higher/lower ohm rating besides playing with different ways to take a drag. If they are changing wicks and anything beyond swapping out coils then there is no reason why they are not using a VV mod. I feel as if I am rambling. Anyways I don't assume that people can't handle the "technology" and that adjusting voltage is too complicated for a first time user. It is posts like responses that scare new users, saying VV is just too much to figure out and then throwing in all of the other features that some won't even use. Keep it simple, for new users a VV mod is great. You get an atomizer, you fill it with juice, turn it on, adjust the voltage in .1 increments until it doesn't taste good, once it tastes bad turn it down .1 or .2. It's not meant to dumb down the technology but for what a beginner will use it for that's basically exactly how it is. If their curiosity inspires them, then they will move on to bigger and better things. Maybe I am just always looking at the bigger picture, I have always done that.
     

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    My opinion (without reading the 5 pages mind you) is that it is different strokes for different folks. I completely agree with the OP but recognize that some like the small form and simplicity of the eGo.

    If I had it to do over again I would have gone straight to the Vamo as well. (I almost like the wife's vamo over my Provari)

    I wanted to include that my wife uses her vamo in the most simplistic of use and absolutely loves it. She does just what madesorgo said his mother did. She asks me to fill a carto tank for her, screws it on, starts off low and clicks the little + sign until it tastes good. She has no idea what else her Vamo can do and she does not care either. She is much happier with it than she is her 2 ego batteries that only come out when she wants to stealth.
     
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    Myrany

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    It is not a matter of how hard or simple the Vamo actually IS to use. It is a matter of PERCEPTION of difficulty.

    TO many people looking for a first kit the minute you start throwing VV, VW, RMS, AVG etc at them their eyes start spinning like my 85 year old mothers eyes did when I tried to explain email to her. They will get there eventually but up front they want something as dead simple to understand as the light it and go they have been using for x years. Make their eyes spin too much and they say to heck with it I am going to smoke.

    There are beginners out there of every level of interest and complexity. That is why no ONE device is right for everyone. That is all most of us are saying.
     

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    I think a lot of vapers go through an initial stage where we shell out $60 or $70 for a starter kit (or whatever), and soon find that we want more control, more power, longer battery life, bigger capacity, etc.....more, more, more. As we explore our options, because WE ARE REALLY STARTING TO LIKE VAPING NOW, we discover that there's a whole world out there, primarily in cyberspace. We look at the cost of the VAMO, or many other equivalents (ok bunches of them are slightly more), and then we have instant buyer's remorse, realizing that for the same money, or even less than we shelled out on the starter kit, we could have a fancy variable power mod like the VAMO, Kanger compatible too!!! Some would call this a paradigm shift (breakthroughs at lower levels after higher levels are attained.)

    For a while, at least in my case, we feel like if I only knew then, what I know now, I would have made a different selection. Of course, that's always true of any JOURNEY. Hindsight is always 20/20. Look, it takes what it takes to get someone into the world of e-cigs. My wife would never consider a VAMO or similar device....it's just too much. That's a reality, not an opportunity to educate her, I assure you. After 4 months, she has a CVI V1 and loves it (better than a VAMO for her because it comes in colors). Vaping is not a one-size fits all kinda thing. I got into vaping through a kiosk operation at the mall. I assure you they didn't sell VAMO's, or even eGo's the first time around. That was in 2009. It didn't work for me as everything was underpowered, dripping consumed all my time, etc. Returning to vaping in 2011, same thing...I needed more power, stronger juices, etc. Finally, February 2013: The kiosks sell eGo's and 24 mg/ml cherry juice. Bingo. Finally, enough power and nic strength to power through my cravings. 650 mAh all the way and cone tanks and cartridges.

    I was so excited to learn that the twist batteries would allow me not only substantially longer battery life, but I could vary the voltage as well, effectively allowing me to find the sweet spot in my juice. Fantastic! Now the interest level and curiosity level was way up and we discovered the internet and e-cig vendors. My goodness, the ability to change from an eGo cone setup to a CE4 clearomizer was the bee's knees. Now I had greater capacity and ease of use, cleaning, maintenance, replaceable heads, etc. Wow! But I need more power, more capacity, etc. What is variable power? Well, that was really cool, I have several now. But some don't fit my love of evods....what next?

    Eventually, for me, I've come full circle. After dropping and killing two eVic's on hard surfaces (ripping the press fit tops off and breaking the leads), my Friday night "Out and about with the wife" PV is my Twist/evod setup. Love it...perfect size (some say form factor), capacity, etc. When my eVic died a horrible death on my granite counter top, having those excellent eGo twists as backups were lifesavers. It's not like I can run to the corner store and get a replacement eVic now. I've given away eGo's to relatives and friends to start them on their Journey, and am so very happy I was in a position to do so. In each case, they were unsure if they wanted to quit, didn't want to fool with something complicated, didn't need or want an education, etc....but those e-cig's WERE pretty cool, though, weren't they? And so they tried.

    The point(s) of this story are: 1) It takes what it takes, 2) One size does not fit all, 3) Different strokes for different folks, 4) It's the Journey that keeps it fun, fresh, and adds just enough coolness, etc. to distract us from the horrible habit we just gave up, 5) Be patient, the eGo's do have their place (backups and "about town" vapes, loaners and gifts - even primaries), and I did come back around to them and realize that, 6) I'm vaping an AGR locking carto tank as I write this. Earlier it was an evod. First, on a Sigelei V3, then on a Provari mini. One setup doesn't even work for me, let alone everyone else, 7) I'm not made of money, but I did smoke a lot and if I save only half what I used to spend, I can get weekly packages of "new stuff" which I find to be like Christmas (and I just love it!), 8) My wife also quit and I enjoy the Journey with her on a daily basis, as we both learn together how to quit, stay quit, enjoy a fabulous new hobby (not just a nicotine replacement device) and drool over our next wish list items, 9) What worked for me, i.e., my first mod, did not work for her, at least not at first, and finally, 10) the best device is the one that keeps you away from and off of the analogs and satisfies your cravings, habit, etc. For everyone, this is different. Since finding ECF, and then only months later wanting to be a part of the community, did the idea of not being alone, keeping an open mind, and discovering that there are thousands of people like me, on their own unique Journeys, getting them here to vaping and ECF, and elsewhere, become apparent. I'm only at the beginning, but me really likee, likee....and I thank everyone here at ECF for being so kind and considerate, helpful and instructive, correcting me when I'm wrong, supporting me and guiding me on this amazing Journey that I never knew existed. I don't have buyer's remorse. I have a profound appreciation for this amazing new world, including the course corrections, zig-zags, and roundabouts. I don't mean to be dramatic, but I was a hard core smoker, and no one is more surprised than me that I made it. Thanks guys.
     
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