advise me on my first and last AVP/VV mod that I'll purchase

[gw2405]

and help me build it please

I'm finally curious to try one of these out. I currently use a Volcano Inerno and I've realized that I don't quite like it. Yea, it works, but with the cheap 650mah battery, I can't even stay out for a couple hours before the battery dies

Basically, I saw a photo of an eVic which started this strong desire for me. I'll admit, the gizmos of it really caught my eye. The more I read about it, the more I realized that I didn't even really need all the display settings (puff counter, alarms, my name, temp, blah blah blah). All I really like about it is the battery %. Seems like it's the only avp which shows battery like that
Also, the build quality didn't seem too strong

As much as I want a great unit that will last me a long long time, I do put emphasis on aesthetics.
I also appreciate how certain units can work with an 18350 battery via battery tube modifications, or a higher capacity 18650 battery if I need it

What I want:
- good build quality
- ability to run 18350 and a small tank when I'm out, or an 18650 and a larger tank when I'm home or on a trip

So, here I am, flirting with the thought of just screwing it all and getting a ProVari Mini.

What do you guys think?

These are the photos that sold me:

Provari mini on a J-tank and 3ohm Boge carto..seems great to take along to the bars

and after a lot of research, realized that Kir Farnis makes a 18650 mod for the ProVari Mini. Currently, it's only for the v2.0 but I emailed them and they said they'll get the same mod for the v2.5 in next week

or do I just get an eVic, get an egoT tube to run an 18350 battery...and use the stock 18650 tube it comes with to run a high capacity 18650 3400mah battery?

Yes, before you say it, I am, indeed, indecisive

 

[KerryK]

Well, I can say that Provari build quality is well earned, I think of them as in a whole different quality category than the eVic. Provari is a lifetime PV in my mind, built to last.

 

[gw2405]

Well, I can say that Provari build quality is well earned, I think of them as in a whole different quality category than the eVic. Provari is a lifetime PV in my mind, built to last.

After about 5+hours of reading, that's what I've come to realize as well :/
It came to a point where all the ProVari owners absolutely love their units, and purchase multiple of them. Then you have the owners of competitive brands who chime in with "yea, but mine does the same thing" and it's this giant pissing match

basically I fell in love with the looks of the eVic but now want to purchase a ProVari Mini and do the extension mod..that's what it has come down to. Just need to bite the damn bullet haha

 

[KerryK]

I say you will be very happy once you do, remember these are lifetime PV's that deliver an exceptional vape. I know you have probably watched P Busardo's vids, I think it's funny now that most times I watch him he's using the Provari Mini.

 

[rumpole]

Over the years I have bought and used so many mods that I can't even remember some of them.
Of all the mods which I have bought the Provari is the only one which I would hate to be without. It is solid, reliable, well built and handles virtually any tank, cartomiser, clearomiser or anything else which I have attached to it.
I do have several variable voltage/ variable wattage PV's and have often wished that the Provape people would create a VV/VW Provari but I must confess that, except when I occasionally change the type of juice which I vape, I rarely need to alter the voltage on the Provari.
My advice is simple. Get a Provari, which will always do the job for which it was designed excellently, and then if you need to experiment try out any other PV which takes your fancy.
My personal preference as an alternative is the sigelei zmax telescopic V3 which allows me to use virtually every battery available including 18350, 18500, 18650. It has vv and vw and has never given me a moments trouble.

 

[Steam_Bern]

I have a Provari and really do enjoy it. That being said, it does have a circuit board in it that will surly not last forever.

I recently bought a Super T Precise ELA. This is a purly mechanical mod with no circuits to burn out, rhodium plated contacts which never need cleaning and is telescopic to accept a variety of battery sizes. The telescopic section is a new non-threading design and it takes literally seconds to change the battery. This is a device that will truly last a lifetime. Using low resistance atomizers or building your own, you will get the same or higher power output than any VV/VW device.

The Precise ELA is nearing the end of the presale (less than 20 left up for grabs), I seriously advise you to check it out!

 

[gw2405]

haha, yea, I've watched countless of his videos. He kind of schooled me on all the various AVPs out there and the pros/cons.
I really don't want to turn out like some of y'all who have 5+ mods sitting around. I just need one, and a couple tanks

hell, I only know about cartomizers, priming them, sticking them in a tank and puffing away. I still need to read about the rest of the options

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

If looking for a lasting well built APV the Provari is what you want. Bonus of the Provari is not only the quality but also that you can upgrade it if they come out with an updated PCB.

 

[gw2405]

Over the years I have bought and used so many mods that I can't even remember some of them.
Of all the mods which I have bought the Provari is the only one which I would hate to be without. It is solid, reliable, well built and handles virtually any tank, cartomiser, clearomiser or anything else which I have attached to it.
I do have several variable voltage/ variable wattage PV's and have often wished that the Provape people would create a VV/VW Provari but I must confess that, except when I occasionally change the type of juice which I vape, I rarely need to alter the voltage on the Provari.
My advice is simple. Get a Provari, which will always do the job for which it was designed excellently, and then if you need to experiment try out any other PV which takes your fancy.
My personal preference as an alternative is the sigelei zmax telescopic V3 which allows me to use virtually every battery available including 18350, 18500, 18650. It has vv and vw and has never given me a moments trouble.

appreciate the post

I have a Provari and really do enjoy it. That being said, it does have a circuit board in it that will surly not last forever.

I recently bought a Super T Precise ELA. This is a purly mechanical mod with no circuits to burn out, rhodium plated contacts which never need cleaning and is telescopic to accept a variety of battery sizes. The telescopic section is a new non-threading design and it takes literally seconds to change the battery. This is a device that will truly last a lifetime. Using low resistance atomizers or building your own, you will get the same or higher power output than any VV/VW device.

The Precise ELA is nearing the end of the presale (less than 20 left up for grabs), I seriously advise you to check it out!

I didn't even know what mechanical mods were until this morning, and that's barely much at all. I don't want to turn it into a full-fledge hobby of rebuilding stuff and blah blah

I just want to buy a bulk order of cartomizers, 2-3 tanks of my fav flavors, batteries, and be set

 

[rumpole]

Just one little tip.

If you buy the Provari I would advise you to buy ProVari Cone for the Kayfun V3 ES. This gives the Provari a flat top appearance and makes a Provari fitted with a 22mm tank, such as the AGA T or RSST RBA's look less silly and more like a well designed mod.

 

[gw2405]

the cone is that spacer/ring that would meet the mod/tank, correct? I'll look it up
so many damn options for everything, drives me nuts

 

[Steam_Bern]

I was using the term "atomizers" as a generalization. Any device we stick on top of our PV will include a atomizer, cartomizers included. Using 1.5 ohm cartomizers on a purly mechanical device will give you 11.76 watts on a fresh battery, which is a very satisfying vape. With low resistance carts, you won't notice a huge decline in vapor as the battery drains and I get better battery life out of my ELA than my Provari because the Provari's circuitry draws a lot of power from the battery to regulate voltage. Just some things to thinks about.

I'm throwing the ELA into this discussion because you did mention that you want only one PV that will last you forever and I believe that, while an excellent device, the Provari is not it. The one thing I do not like about the Provari is that the positive ping gets dirty very quickly and needs cleaning with a mild abrasive to get maximum performance out of it. The precious metal contacts on my ELA will never need anything more than a wipe with tissue paper. You will eventually need to put more money into the Provari when the board dies or needs an upgrade because it's obsolete. This will never happem with a mechanical PV.

I advise you to at least head over to the Super T subforum and read the stickies and the first post of the ELA thread. (The ELA thread has been goin since December and is now over 550 pages long, so please don't think you need to read the whole thing and get overwhelmed by that thought. You really only need to read the first post to see all of the features of this PV and maybe some of the last posts to see pictures of the PV in peoples hands and their thoughts on it.)

 

[rumpole]

the cone is that spacer/ring that would meet the mod/tank, correct? I'll look it up
so many damn options for everything, drives me nuts

That's correct. Here is a link to one site which I know sells it, there may be others: ProVari Cone für Kayfun V3 ES - DIGITAL STEAM

I will try to post a picture of the one which I have fitted to my Provari with an RSST RBA tank fitted.

 

[gw2405]

cheers fellas, I'll look more into the mechanical ELA and also read up on different tanks and stuff

 

[Steam_Bern]

Here's a picture of my ELA with the Kayfun in 10ml mode. It is truly the best vape I've experienced. It blows away my Provari with a ZAP. I wouldn't worry too much about rebuildables right now unless you love to tinker and accept that there will be a learning curve that may or may not be frustrating. Just get the PV that makes you happy and go from there.

 

[Steam_Bern]

Here's my Provari Mini V2 with a Z Atty Pro, a glass Trippy Tip and Twins telescoping extender in 18650 mode. What started out as a mini is about 9" long in the configuration. This is now my backup device now that I have the ELA.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

On this forum, asking if you should get a Provari is like asking a surgeon if you need surgery. Of course you need the surgery!

If you try to jump from an 650 mAH ego-style device to a provari, you will miss a whole lot of innovation between those two points, which IS where all the innovation lies. I have two provari's and they are rock solid reliable, no question about it. And they are accurate, probably the best. So what? They use ten year old technology and for many years were the best APV in the market. In truth, you may never need another APV if you buy the Provari. However, they are far from my favorites. Personally, I do like variable power, in spite of the fact that you can vape without it. I like ego threading, and love my evods and NEW Kangers MT3s'. I love the display on the eVic, by far the best in the vape world (version 1.2 or higher, though the DNA20 is getting close), though I don't use all of the features on it (it did lack durabililty, we'll have to see if the two screws at the top stop it from falling apart when dropped). Was my favorite mod until I killed two on my granite counter top. I'm on my third one now (slow learner?) Someone mentioned the new iTaste V3's. Ordered two the other day (https://ivape.net/index.php/iTaste-VV-3.0-Variable-Wattage-Device-Pearl-Chrome.html). They have everything I want in a small form factor, the only negative being long battery life. The Sigelei V3 telescoping mod (Sigelei Stainless V3 ZMAX Telescope Variable Power (adjustable wattage) VV APV) is my favorite mod now having the best of both worlds, i.e., large or small, short or long battery life, OLED display, single tube only required, single cap, excellent quality, very good price (the kit is less than half the cost of either of my two provari's), excellent OLED display, etc. knowing what I know today, I would buy the Sigelei V3 long before I would buy a Provari. But that's just me. The fact that you can run your truck over the Provari is not that important to me. I also can vape with voltage only just fine, but I prefer variable power, don't need it, but, for me, it's a big improvement. I like eVod's and the Kanger products and prefer to use them without an adapter. But that's just me.

Seriously, if you haven't tried variable wattage, or as my wife says, "set it and forget it," you may be missing out. If you want to know what all the hype is about, get the Provari. I did and now I know. Wouldn't trade that for anything, but personally I have requirements and features that the Provari is missing. You can't beat it's quality, durability, accuracy, or warranty. However, there's many mods that are quality products, both durable and accurate, that also have the features I like. Some call them bells and whistles. So what? I like them, many others do too. Anyway, look at other models. The Sigelei line, the Innokin line and several others. Figure out what is important to you, your budget and then you can narrow it down to plenty of good choices. Try to stay away from the Clones, for the most part. I would get a Sigelei before I would get a Vamo. I like the Anyvape CVI V1 also. Enjoy the journey. The gear is a big part of the journey, and keep vaping. Welcome to ECF!

 

[gw2405]

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Here's a picture of my ELA with the Kayfun in 10ml mode. It is truly the best vape I've experienced. It blows away my Provari with a ZAP. I wouldn't worry too much about rebuildables right now unless you love to tinker and accept that there will be a learning curve that may or may not be frustrating. Just get the PV that makes you happy and go from there.

looks terrific but it may be too much for me atm
could only find one quick review of it online and the guy was coughin up his long using it

a provari with vv may be better for me as all I want to use is a few 2-3ohm cartomizers

 

[Steam_Bern]

If someone is coughing up a lung then they have something set up wrong. 2 ohm cartomizers will work fine on a mechanical device while the vape from a 3 ohm may be a little weak depending on your tastes. I ran with cartos for 5 months before I desired something more and got into rebuildables. The pic of the Kayfun was for display purposes and I believe you should stick with cartos until you feel you want to try something else.

Here's my ELA with a simple 510 atomizer and drip tip:



A review of the ELA on Vape Squad:

Review: The Precise ELA by Super T Manufacturing - Vape Squad

If you still feel you want a provari then do it; it is a great device. Just know that all circuit boards will eventually fail and a provai, while it should last years, will not last forever like a quality mechanical will. Good luck!

 

[rumpole]

Provari with the Kayfun Provari adapter