AFS and 901 atomizers

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Right harpo... but I am playing around with hole size and actually how many holes. I am going to try putting two holes inline one low and one higher up in the filler material. The real trick is not to use a drill bit... I use a dremmel tool with an engraving bit to make the metal thin where I want the hole then poke through with a stainless steel dental pick. That makes a really small hole about half the size of the original hole on a 901. It has been a little too small on the one in my V2 now so maybe more holes is the answer. It is nice to close off the control ring and top off my cartomizer. I take the mouthpiece off and watch as I take really small inhales careful not to flood it. If I do flood it I use a paper towel to soak up the excess. Then I am off again. The first time I tried this the hole must have been just right because I didn't have to do this top off thing. I will update you guys as I try more cartomizers. I tell you though on high voltage they have the best throat hit and flavor. My juice has never tasted so good.
 

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Would you mind explaining that a little further, please?

Imeo mentioned if you're having flooding issues to remove the o-ring off the brass connector and place a sponge around the 4 holes on the brass connector. When I use a LR atty the draw is too tight and I have to prime AFS about every 4 or 5 draws. So I put the o-ring back on and removed the sponge (floval) material and it vapes great now.
 

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I have been using one and the same cartomizer for a week now, no flooding, loads of vapor, good throat hit and no leaking what so ever. I use the PT on 5 Volts and/or 6Volts. Drilled a hole (1.2 mm) with the Dremel tool, cut the drill to such a small length that it cannot pierce the center tube of the cartomizer, so no issues with that. The placement of the hole is about 8 mm from the threads.The taste is the best there is!!. I removed the top o-ring of the small cap and it works perfect with or without the o-ring on the brass connector.
No need to take primal puffs in between, consistent draw all the way. Leave the control ring all the way open to get air and you can vape all day without any issue. I received the plastic moutpiece and currently vape wit an HV 5.2 Ohm 901 attie and that is working fine also. I find though that the draw is a little stiffer and the taste is not so nice as with the cartomizer and I have to take the primal puffs every 20 or 30 hits to keep the atty wet.
I made the hole of a standard 901 a fraction bigger, now more liquid is coming to the atty, let's see how long it will last....
 
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Good to know Imeo.

And I think it's true, Lisa. Sometimes the stars plot against us and make sure we pop our last atty right when stock from our favorite suppliers is low. Now we have the option to use that backup in case of emergency.

The most important thing though:

This has increased the value (in my mind) of Imeo's AFS at least tenfold.

Before, to be honest, it was a one trick pony. A brilliant and beautiful AFS, yes... but it relied on a specially modified throwaway part, that, at the end of the day was at the mercy of Chinese engineering.

That placed its value in a very very very narrow margin.

This information now makes it an AFS that can work with ANY mod, at ANY voltage with ANY atomizer (I say any because if I know how Imeo's brain works, he's probably already working on a new cap that will allow it to work with 510's and 801's).

This now means that I can break out those old first generation mods collecting dust on my bookshelf. It means that I can feel safe buying a few more AFS in the future as backups. I can buy one for my wife so she can use her GGslim/GGSS without me worrying about her wasting tons of dollars on the learning curve.

I do realize that the AFS did always fit other mods, but it makes it more practical knowing that I can always find an atty somewhere if Rob and Lisa are out of stock.

And don't take this as me saying anything negative about the GG mods... It just means that my backups are no longer backups. They can be used with my AFS when I just feel like a change of scenery. The practicality of my GGTS is a whole other category.

I just want to reiterate the fact that Imeo's AFS has gone from "A really neat AFS" to "A Revolutionary AFS".

As of right now I know of no other AFS system that isn't sitting in a box mod right now. And to me thats a very exciting thing. If there are, PM me, I'd love to see one.

And now for some humor:
My wife has her backup mod as well. She never uses it, she is so in love with her GGS. Even her GGSS is collecting dust, she just really loves the little one.

The other day, she felt guilty that her backup mod had not seen the light of day in months. So she loaded it up with her favorite cart..sat in her chair and watched TV.... Her GGS sat on her table.... her eyes kept darting towards it.

I watched the entire time... it was like a kitten eyeing a bowl of milk that it wasn't supposed to touch.

She lasted about 10 minutes, I left the room and returned to her vaping her GGS.

No self control...:lol::lol::lol:

As I see it now I totally agree with what you said Waffle my friend. I see now that AFS will increase its value with this.!

And AFS already is made to work with any atomizer. We dont need a new cap, we need a new brass connector only and to find the right holes or another way to make it work with the other atomizers.

Of course AFS isn't sitting in a box mod and dont require ungly bottles inside it.:)
 
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Thanks imeo for working so hard to help out those of us who are heavy vapers and need a device that works every time we pick it up and thank you for solving the dripping thing for us too... What a pain that is. I don't see how people still mess with cart mods and drip tips when they could just get an AFS and vape without interruption all day. Keep up the good work imeo, I know you can't stop...

Thanks a lot Keith my friend, some things required your help witch you gave me all the time
 

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Right harpo... but I am playing around with hole size and actually how many holes. I am going to try putting two holes inline one low and one higher up in the filler material. The real trick is not to use a drill bit... I use a dremmel tool with an engraving bit to make the metal thin where I want the hole then poke through with a stainless steel dental pick. That makes a really small hole about half the size of the original hole on a 901. It has been a little too small on the one in my V2 now so maybe more holes is the answer. It is nice to close off the control ring and top off my cartomizer. I take the mouthpiece off and watch as I take really small inhales careful not to flood it. If I do flood it I use a paper towel to soak up the excess. Then I am off again. The first time I tried this the hole must have been just right because I didn't have to do this top off thing. I will update you guys as I try more cartomizers. I tell you though on high voltage they have the best throat hit and flavor. My juice has never tasted so good.

Vapn,

YES, I 100% agree: Flavor comes out the best with the cartomizer in combination with the AFS, no comparisation with anything else!!!! :toast::toast:
 

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And AFS already is made to work with any atomizer. We dont need a new cap, we need a new brass connector only and to find the right holes or another way to make it work with the other atomizers.

I was thinking about that. The 801 is long enough not to be an issue other than the hole in the cap.

I'm assuming the 510 is too short without the mouthpiece, but a touch too long with the mouthpiece + the AFS tip.

I'm guessing if a person whacked off a few millimeters of the 510's mouthpiece it would be just right.

I don't have one of Rob's AFS mouthpieces yet, and hadn't planned on dropping 16$ on one, but I may have to just to try this out.
 

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Has anyone tried a 510 cartomizer yet? I'm still waiting on mine to arrive. Are they the same length as the 808s? If so, why not put a 901 to 510 adapter on, drill a hole and vape away. You might not need the adapter but I believe if you don't have it the brass connector would bottom out on the GGTS before good contact is made with the center pin.
 

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I have tried a 901-510 adapter inside the AFS tank and the threads are just not the same. The same goes with the RN atty like the ones that TW sell. The threads are just slightly different and will not work in the AFS. If the adapter had worked I believe the 510 would work without any modifications. Air will pass through the center pole and juice would enter through those two holes in the sides of the threads. If imeo could make us adapters for AFS 901 to 510 it would work fine (I Hope). I am wondering now if the GG 901-510 would work but I don't have one to try.
 

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I was thinking about that. The 801 is long enough not to be an issue other than the hole in the cap.

I'm assuming the 510 is too short without the mouthpiece, but a touch too long with the mouthpiece + the AFS tip.

I'm guessing if a person whacked off a few millimeters of the 510's mouthpiece it would be just right.

I don't have one of Rob's AFS mouthpieces yet, and hadn't planned on dropping 16$ on one, but I may have to just to try this out.


exactly waffle!!!
 

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I have tried a 901-510 adapter inside the AFS tank and the threads are just not the same. The same goes with the RN atty like the ones that TW sell. The threads are just slightly different and will not work in the AFS. If the adapter had worked I believe the 510 would work without any modifications. Air will pass through the center pole and juice would enter through those two holes in the sides of the threads. If imeo could make us adapters for AFS 901 to 510 it would work fine (I Hope). I am wondering now if the GG 901-510 would work but I don't have one to try.

those TW atomizers have 0,1 mm shorter threads!!!!!!!
 

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Good, I will try taking a bit off the tops of the threads to see if that will work. They are the same threads but the darn things just wont screw all the way down to make contact. Thanks for the info imeo, off to chuck up the brass part in the drill and sand a hair off the threads. Apparently they are just a little tall for the RN atty's threads. Same goes for my adapter for 901-510. Once I get that adapter threaded all the way down we are going to see if the 510 will work inside the AFS.
 

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Good, I will try taking a bit off the tops of the threads to see if that will work. They are the same threads but the darn things just wont screw all the way down to make contact. Thanks for the info imeo, off to chuck up the brass part in the drill and sand a hair off the threads. Apparently they are just a little tall for the RN atty's threads. Same goes for my adapter for 901-510. Once I get that adapter threaded all the way down we are going to see if the 510 will work inside the AFS.

Just a thought, and it maybe a band aid and not a solution, would the paper-clip mod work on a 510?

I don't have a 901-510 handy so I can't test it.
 

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Imeo mentioned if you're having flooding issues to remove the o-ring off the brass connector and place a sponge around the 4 holes on the brass connector. When I use a LR atty the draw is too tight and I have to prime AFS about every 4 or 5 draws. So I put the o-ring back on and removed the sponge (floval) material and it vapes great now.

Okay, where do I get this floval material from?
 
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