AFS trick

[imeothanasis]

AFS is an "o-ring game". AFS works with atmospheric pressure. It has not mechanical or elecrical parts inside. Its just a clever device that use the air to work. AFS dont work on moon

I said that its an o-ring game because with the proper o-rings AFS will never leak. I tried to totally seal it and it was easy with o-rings. But I notice that some o-rings are pressed more than the ones we need to be pressed. I will give you an example.

The o-ring that is on the small cap got pressed before the o-ring that is between caps and the one we need to get pressed first is the o-ring between caps. So we put out the o-ring from the small cap and now no air can come out of the tank.

Not all o-rings are the same. I made the AFS with 0,05 mm accuracy but o-rings dont follow my thoughts. Some people tells me that they still have a small amount of liquid drops out of the 8 holes. I notice that the o-ring that is on the brass connector of the AFS is the one that is get pressed first but we need the o-ring that is inside the tank to get pressed first. So I put off the o-ring that is on the brass base and no leakage again.

So please take off this o-ring and screw well the brass connector on the tank. I am totally sure that AFS will not leak at all even if you leave the CR open .

If some of you have a leakage problem try this trick and I am sure that you will be totally satisfied.

 

[boomboom]

I'm confused.

Are you basically saying we don't need any o-rings at all if we have leaks?

Please, if you could, throw on a picture of the disassembled AFS and point with arrows to which o-rings to remove (if any) and which order the AFS should be assembled.

I'm sure I'm not the only confused one after reading Imeo's post.

 

[vapn]

He is talking about the oring on the bottom brass part.... the visible one... you don't need it and it is keeping the brass piece from squishing the oring that goes around the atty on the bottom letting juice come out and air to go in the tank.... We have to keep the AFS totally air tight in order for it to work properly. Basically the orings have been a little bit variable by just enough to mess up the air vacuum we need to hold the juice in the tank.

 

[imeothanasis]

I'm confused.

Are you basically saying we don't need any o-rings at all if we have leaks?

Please, if you could, throw on a picture of the disassembled AFS and point with arrows to which o-rings to remove (if any) and which order the AFS should be assembled.

I'm sure I'm not the only confused one after reading Imeo's post.

Its very easy Boom. Just put off the o-ring that is on the brass connector:

 

[vapn]

Let me try to point out the ones we need to remove here folks.... give me a few minutes to make up a nice post with the pictures and arrows pointing out the orings we need to remove....

 

[mcannon-gso]

OK...

So the only 2 O-Rings we need are the 1 around the atty @ the bottom. And the 1 around the atty @ the top between the Big Cap and small cap?

In another post it was said that the O-ring around the outside of the big cap and small cap allow air inside the tank and can be removed ..

Is this correct??

 

[imeothanasis]

OK...

So the only 2 O-Rings we need are the 1 around the atty @ the bottom. And the 1 around the atty @ the top between the Big Cap and small cap?

In another post it was said that the O-ring around the outside of the big cap and small cap allow air inside the tank and can be removed ..

Is this correct??

we need:

o-ring between caps
o-ring on the big cap (if you remove it its ok again)
o-ring whitch is 1mm after the 8 holes
o-ring that goes through the atomizer when you put atomizer on the brass connector and then you put the hole thing inside the tank

we remove:

o-ring that is on the small cap
o-ring that is on the base of the brass connector as the picture that I show you on my previous post

Please wait for Vapn to show this in pictures mca

 

[vapn]

Here is what we need to do

 

[mcannon-gso]

Thanks IMEO...

Go it, but will wait to see Vapn's pictures....

 

[mcannon-gso]

Vapn,

Where can we get a 17mm x 1mm O-ring?
Should I leave this one on until I get a new one?

I usually get my O-Rings from Home Depot, but not sure which one I could use for this..

 

[harpo]

Here is what we need to do

Vapn where can we get a 17X1 O-ring?

 

[vapn]

Yea its ok to leave the one on the big cap on as long as you are not getting a bulge in it. If it is nice and flush with the outside of the tank then you are fine. Mine is ok but there were a few that were larger in diameter and those are the ones to watch out for because they will allow air to pass behind them. So just take the two off for now and see how much affect that has on your leakage and flooding. Sure has changed mine drastically....

 

[vapn]

The o-ring on the brass part never touches anything unless you have the CR all the way open so why take it off? Vapn where can we get a 17X1 O-ring?

On some AFSs out there it is keeping the oring on the inside that goes around the atty from being compressed enough to create a positive seal. I think Rob will have some of the 17 x1 in stock soon... I don't know where to find them unless you try a hardware store but they are going to be in the inches scale surely.

 

[boomboom]

Here is what we need to do

Thanks Keith, that helped a lot!

 

[harpo]

On some AFSs out there it is keeping the oring on the inside that goes around the atty from being compressed enough to create a positive seal. I think Rob will have some of the 17 x1 in stock soon... I don't know where to find them unless you try a hardware store but they are going to be in the inches scale surely.

The first part of my statement I had a brain fart. I was looking at it with the cr on and not thinking about the other side. I took my off. I'll check home depot or lowe's and see if they have something close. I'll let everyone know if I find something.

 

[imeothanasis]

Harpo, as Vapn said you can keep the o-ring on the big cap if you are not getting a bulge on it when you screw the cap on the tank. If you have a bulge then remove it because its bigger than the proper.

 

[imeothanasis]

The first part of my statement I had a brain fart. I was looking at it with the cr on and not thinking about the other side. I took my off. I'll check home depot or lowe's and see if they have something close. I'll let everyone know if I find something.

 

[harpo]

Harpo, as Vapn said you can keep the o-ring on the big cap if you are not getting a bulge on it when you screw the cap on the tank. If you have a bulge then remove it because its bigger than the proper.

Imeo I took that one off a couple days ago because it had the bulge in it.

 

[harpo]

Here is what we need to do

I finally think this along with removing the large cap o-ring has done the trick. Before everytime I removed the brass fitting I'd have a bunch of juice come out. Now nothing. I'm one happy camper.

 

[imeothanasis]

I am a happy friend of you Harpo