Alcohol drug test need help!

[vaportiger]

I have been mixing my own liquid and use 5% alcohol to thin the VG & PG. I never thought much about it but at my new work I can not drink anytime during the week, I was tested last Thursday and the test showned i had at least a drink within the last two days but I had not. The test must have picked up on the alcohol in the e-cig. I now have to prove that there are e-liquids sold with alcohol in it or prove that it is common to use alcohol when mixing e-liquids. I offered to give them the liquid I had been using but was told that would not work without other evidense. Can anyone help me and tell me where I can find such proof?

 

[Lab]

i think the premix factory do not list alcohol as a main ingredient, your best bet would be to show them the flavoring that contain alcohol or find a juice supplier that uses alcohol in their juice to list all ingredients involved including the ingredients in the flavorings..

or just eat a bunch of poppy seeds for the next test and sue..

 

[Israfil]

Wait...alcohol testing? Is that friggin legal? If you like, you can go to wal-mart and pick up a thing of their "Great value" brand orange extract from the baking section. It's like 80% alcohol. Complete crap for making juices with as I discovered the other day, but should work as proof. The best part is if you don't open it you can return it to get your ..2-ish dollars back.

If they won't go for that, I'm sure there's a way to beat the test.

Wow....Just read up on civil liberties issues in AL and apparently some gal was fired for driving to work with a kerry-edwards bumper sticker on her car there. Something seriously messed up going on in this country.

 

[Lab]

call a lawyer.. i dont know how a place can regulate what you do after work hours if it is not effecting your work..

 

[Seabrook]

Sounds like you work for the airlines. My friend had the same problem. She couldn't even smoke. She knew this beforehand. She had to sign an employment agreement stating that she would abstain from smoking and drinking certain days. I think it was Alaska Airlines. Go to the DIY forum and ask them. They can for sure tell you what to say. So sorry. I wish you the best of luck beating this. I would just stay as sweet and nice as you can about it. I'm sure if you show a good and sincere attitude about it, it will be so much better for you. Ask SunVapor or Scubabatdan over at the DIY forum. You can even print out recipes there and threads showing that alcohol thins the liquids down and also that you should use some alcohol in sterilizing your mouthpieces before vaping in the mornings after you've laid down your PV the evening before. Good luck.

 

[quasimod]

Tasty Vapor's "TV Butter Rum" has alcohol in it.

 

[BuzzKill]

SO does MOUTHWASH !!!

 

[Seabrook]

Wait...alcohol testing? Is that friggin legal? If you like, you can go to wal-mart and pick up a thing of their "Great value" brand orange extract from the baking section. It's like 80% alcohol. Complete crap for making juices with as I discovered the other day, but should work as proof. The best part is if you don't open it you can return it to get your ..2-ish dollars back.

If they won't go for that, I'm sure there's a way to beat the test.

Wow....Just read up on civil liberties issues in AL and apparently some gal was fired for driving to work with a kerry-edwards bumper sticker on her car there. Something seriously messed up going on in this country.

Yeah, do what Israfil says. Tell them you quit smoking and were trying to make your own eJuice out of food flavoring and that you didn't realize it had all the alcohol in it. Empty out half the bottle and smear a little on the label just to make it look well-used before you present it to the review board so it looks legit.

Yep, our country is goin to the dogs. I wonder if property is still cheap in Costa Rica, LOL. Everytime I log onto the internet, I try to close my eyes everytime I see the Google News Page come up til I get to where I'm headed. May God have mercy on our jacked up, corrupt nation, and may He also forgive us for trashing this beautiful planet He blessed us with. Hells bells, we even knocked a whole in our atmosphere, not to mention killing half our marine life already with oil spills and countries dumping billions of tons of trash into the ocean. Okay, I bet you can tell I stayed up past my bedtime and I'm getting cranky now. So, nitey nite.

 

[jayquik03]

so does mouthwash !!!

qft!

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[brandon555]

How would they even detect alcohol? Even if you mix it with juice you'd maybe only be vaping .5 ml of alcohol a day... what kind of test is it? GC/MS?

 

[SawBoss]

How would they even detect alcohol? Even if you mix it with juice you'd maybe only be vaping .5 ml of alcohol a day... what kind of test is it? GC/MS?

That's my question. What kind of test is this? It takes the liver about one hour to process one ounce of alcohol out of your bloodstream (1 shot or 1 beer). So if you have a few beers the night before your clean the next day. I know this to be true because I'm randomly drug and alcohol tested at my job and I've passed a breathalizer with 0.0 after having a sixer the night before.

 

[vaportiger]

They can detect alcohol on sanitiazing hand wash after 24 hrs and 1 beer four days later. They have advaced(bad word) testing the last five years when they could only detect within 12 hrs and that was if you drank a 12 pack. I protested the test which gave me a week to collect proof, they are sending it to a gas spectrometer test. Hopefuly it will show a large amount of PG & VG which will back up my word. Sorry cannot say what I do for a living but an agreement was signed so a lawyer cannot help.

 

[BuzzKill]

What are the unacceptable levels ? A gas spectrometer will pic up anything ! they are VERY sensitive .

If it is a 0 tolerance policy then a LAWYER will help , that is totally undo-able , Any spec of alcohol will show up , trace amounts from the previous test etc.

You must be doing some serious work IF they are performing Gas Spectrograph tests !!

Bring them a sample of the juice to test as a comparison.

 

[Israfil]

So I'm thinkin he's a tech working on the alien space ship at area 51....amirite? lol

Unless you're working on disarming nuclear weapons for the gummint I can't think of anything that you wouldn't be able to have a drink AFTER work...

 

[Seabrook]

So I'm thinkin he's a tech working on the alien space ship at area 51....amirite? lol

Unless you're working on disarming nuclear weapons for the gummint I can't think of anything that you wouldn't be able to have a drink AFTER work...

I had a boyfriend in college that was a pilot after graduation. He had to sign an employment contract with the airlines that he would not use narcotics (not even cough syrup) or drink alcohol.

Another friend of mine worked as airline attendant for Alaska Airlines. They wouldn't even let her smoke cigarettes, and she also had to sign an employment agreement agreeing to that before they would hire her. I'm sure there are other jobs out there besides the airlines that have to make sure their employees are running mentally at top notch at all times.

How would you like to be a passenger in an plane with a hung over pilot? Or have a hung over school crossing guard take your child out in traffic? Scary, right?

 

[keveck]

Ok, here's a little bit of math for ya's-

If the final mix actually contained 5% alcohol in it of a normal proof liquor (80 proof or 40%) that means you would have to vape approximately 30 oz. of liquid to accumulate the alcohol in one beer. That's a little less than 900mL of liquid.

Normal beer is around 5% alcohol, 12oz.
Your mix would contain around 2% alcohol(if my estimation of how you mixed is correct). My guess is that your test came back positive for alcohol from something else.

Any kind of liquid medicine, flavoring, mouthwash, hand sanitizer, etc most likely has a VERY high percentage of alcohol in it.

Someone please correct me if my math is wrong!

 

[sanfordf]

Ok, here's a little bit of math for ya's-

If the final mix actually contained 5% alcohol in it of a normal proof liquor (80 proof or 40%) that means you would have to vape approximately 30 oz. of liquid to accumulate the alcohol in one beer. That's a little less than 900mL of liquid.

Normal beer is around 5% alcohol, 12oz.
Your mix would contain around 2% alcohol(if my estimation of how you mixed is correct). My guess is that your test came back positive for alcohol from something else.

Any kind of liquid medicine, flavoring, mouthwash, hand sanitizer, etc most likely has a VERY high percentage of alcohol in it.

Someone please correct me if my math is wrong!

Your math seems to be about right. It has to be something else vaportiger has ingested. Mouthwash has a lot of alcohol in it. I would ask to take the test again. Driving a bus (I think) or a train has similar restrictions on drinking.

I like your avatar vaportiger. Keep us posted.

 

[the86d]

Alcohol starts absorbing into your system the second it hits the tissues in your mouth. "Mouthwash maybe your issue", I assume with your test. Wink-Wink, Nudge, Nudge... like 3 times a day!

Morning, Noon, and Evening... with your VERY sanitary brushing habits, I assume.

And then after snacks too.

(Commies!)

 

[chicagorod]

Most of the food products with alcohol in it, the alcohol is cooked out and essential you have the flavor. I hate to say it something doesn't sound right. I doubt that the alcohol from vaping would even be detected unless your drinking your eliquid. Alcohol has a low flash point so most of it evaporated off as far as it's poteniacy. And our body produce alcohol too. So I am just say something sounds weird. I hope we can get to the bottom of this so all us vaping have the right info.

 

[the86d]

Most of the food products with alcohol in it, the alcohol is cooked out and essential you have the flavor. I hate to say it something doesn't sound right. I doubt that the alcohol from vaping would even be detected unless your drinking your eliquid. Alcohol has a low flash point so most of it evaporated off as far as it's poteniacy. And our body produce alcohol too. So I am just say something sounds weird. I hope we can get to the bottom of this so all us vaping have the right info.

I know some DIY do 1 drop per ML, so I am in agreement. Fishy something, you haven't been hitting the vanilla extract on your breaks have you?