all air flow controllers made the same?

[nightrider89]

might be a dumb question but with all the hype of buying an AFC, ive seen most sellers go out of stock.
most members get it from madvapes. i see some made by smoktech.... but i have also found others for a bit more (about a buck)
none of these sites are posting who the maker of the unit is...

so my question, are all these made the same? i wouldnt want a knock off or poorly made copy to use if im supposed to be using it to protect the threading on a vamo!

 

[Train2]

Well, I thought it was a GOOD question, and hoped an answer would pop up...
I've had a couple of those bookmarked for a while, but wanted to order WITH something else, rather than pay postage for a $3 item. And they're never in stock when I'm looking for other stuff.

 

[nightrider89]

i agree with you on that one train.
I guess the next best bet is to call a couple of local vape shops to see if they have one in stock and just pay the premium to get it locally. I havent been to many out here in norcal, but most are combined with hookah/pipe set ups so e-cig accessories are limited

btw, nice sig you got there =p

 

[lvm111]

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so my question, are all these made the same? i wouldnt want a knock off or poorly made copy to use if im supposed to be using it to protect the threading on a vamo!

With all due respect, the Vamo IS a poorly made knock off. I like mine, but it is cheaply made, with crappy 510 crooked threading, weighs almost nothing, and is disposable if it breaks. What else would anyone expect for $38? If it was a quality device, you wouldn't need a thread protector!

Also, I don't think a dollar is going to make much difference in quality between a $2.50 and $3.50 item. The recent threads I've seen here refer to the AFC's from Vermillion River. That's where I ordered mine. They're $3.50, have gotten good personal reviews from those here on the forum, and therefore should be good to go (I hope). In any case, I'm not going to sweat it for a $3.50 item.

best regards, larry mac

 

[Lessifer]

I have no idea if they're all the same but I got mine from kidney puncher, shipping is a lot so I bought a couple, some fuses and some batteries to kind of spread it around a bit. It works great though.

I bought it to "protect" my replacement vamo that's on it's way but it actually threaded into my old vamo that nothing else would thread into, so now I'll have two working vamos. It looks a little funny, because it doesn't sit flush, but it works.

 

[nightrider89]

With all due respect, the Vamo IS a poorly made knock off. I like mine, but it is cheaply made, with crappy 510 crooked threading, weighs almost nothing, and is disposable if it breaks. What else would anyone expect for $38? If it was a quality device, you wouldn't need a thread protector!

Also, I don't think a dollar is going to make much difference in quality between a $2.50 and $3.50 item. The recent threads I've seen here refer to the AFC's from Vermillion River. That's where I ordered mine. They're $3.50, have gotten good personal reviews from those here on the forum, and therefore should be good to go (I hope). In any case, I'm not going to sweat it for a $3.50 item.

best regards, larry mac

larry mac what is the vamo a knock off of? i agree with you about the cheaply made product. but with its price point being 1/4 or even 1/5 of a superior product, i have no doubt that the superior products works better than this one. i will say that this unit is disposable but it doesnt mean i wouldnt want to protect the longevity of the item.

but back to the AFC, i have no doubt that most AFCs perform the same, i just wouldnt want one that was cheaply made or a buyers beware sort of thing that would make the whole vamo experience even worse. last thing i need is stripping of the threads and then another broken or wasted unit. =/ just trying to do my research before committing to an item.

I have no idea if they're all the same but I got mine from kidney puncher, shipping is a lot so I bought a couple, some fuses and some batteries to kind of spread it around a bit. It works great though.

I bought it to "protect" my replacement vamo that's on it's way but it actually threaded into my old vamo that nothing else would thread into, so now I'll have two working vamos. It looks a little funny, because it doesn't sit flush, but it works.

thanks for you input. i found kidney punchers website too wanted to ask about that since its an odd name for a vaping domain.

 

[Lessifer]

kidney puncher is a good site, been around for a long time. They sell good quality stuff, a little on the high side as far as price and shipping, but they ship fast. I got a couple of the AFC's, a couple kamry re-settable fuses, some AW batteries, and some silica for a friend. All great stuff.

 

[lulu836]

With all due respect, the Vamo IS a poorly made knock off. I like mine, but it is cheaply made, with crappy 510 crooked threading, weighs almost nothing, and is disposable if it breaks. What else would anyone expect for $38? If it was a quality device, you wouldn't need a thread protector!

Also, I don't think a dollar is going to make much difference in quality between a $2.50 and $3.50 item. The recent threads I've seen here refer to the AFC's from Vermillion River. That's where I ordered mine. They're $3.50, have gotten good personal reviews from those here on the forum, and therefore should be good to go (I hope). In any case, I'm not going to sweat it for a $3.50 item.

best regards, larry mac

I'm really interested in your criteria for tagging Vamo as a "knockoff". 1) of which "original" is it a copy 2); in your 72 days of experience with vaping how many other PVs have you used; 3) what PV was used for the weight comparison?

 

[nightrider89]

kidney puncher is a good site, been around for a long time. They sell good quality stuff, a little on the high side as far as price and shipping, but they ship fast. I got a couple of the AFC's, a couple kamry re-settable fuses, some AW batteries, and some silica for a friend. All great stuff.

just for clarification purposes, we wont be needing the fuse for the vamo right? i think i might just order a couple smaller things from kidney puncher to make shipping worthwhile

 

[Lessifer]

just for clarification purposes, we wont be needing the fuse for the vamo right? i think i might just order a couple smaller things from kidney puncher to make shipping worthwhile

No, the fuse was for a mechanical I had ordered somewhere else. The vamo has built in short protection.

 

[nightrider89]

lol right when we get the thumbs up for kidney puncher... site went down =/


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[Lessifer]

it's Vaper's Law, the second you're ready to order something, it's out of stock or the site is down.

 

[Trayce]

BTW just wanted to add that the AFC everyone is referring to here is for 510 threaded devices only, like the PT2. For cone-threaded e-Go devices (like for the Aro Pyrex tank) there is another style AFC where the top ring threads up over the conical base of the tank to block or partially block air holes drilled into the base. So be sure to get the one you need... 510 or eGo threaded.

 

[Trayce]

With all due respect, the Vamo IS a poorly made knock off. I like mine, but it is cheaply made, with crappy 510 crooked threading, weighs almost nothing, and is disposable if it breaks. What else would anyone expect for $38? If it was a quality device, you wouldn't need a thread protector!

I don't entirely agree. I don't think it's a knock-off at all (of what?) but a front-runner, as it hasn't copied, but led the way. I DO expect the Provari to knock-off the Vamo when it finally introduces VW.

In the meantime it seems to me the designers jam-packed the Vamo with features in both function and safety, then cut corners when machining the threads, perhaps, though I have to say my threads are fine so far, albeit I take good care with it. But imo I can live with treating it gently thread-wise, for all the value I get for the money. I would rather have 4 Vamos than 1 Provari, which is how many Vamos I can have for the price of one Provari.

As to it being disposable, they have tops available for the V2 for a few bucks and I imagine it's only a matter of time before there are V3 tops. If the PCB goes, the only reason the Vamo might be "disposable" is b/c it's so economical to begin with. That is, if a PCB costs $20 or more, it's just as easy to get a new Vamo for $36. If, however, the PCB on a $160 Provari goes, and it costs $20 or $30 to replace it, then I guess that makes the Provari "not disposable" but when you pay $160 up front, just b/c it isn't disposable doesn't mean it's saving you any money.

Just saying....

I also think the Vamo has a lot of heft for a $36 device. I was surprised at how well made it is. The buttons are nice and clicky... the threads for the extensions are smooth... the OLED is great... the menus are easy... and all of those look nicer than the Provari, imho.

So, for $36 or $37 I feel like I have the best APV out there, with one sole caveat, being the threads. And that's a whole lotta Ferrari for very few drawbacks in my book.