All Flavoring Manufacturers: An Open Discussion

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What's the consensus on flavourart's line? From what I've read, FA's flavors are in general more concentrate and don't need as much of a percentage in a mix as say TFA and Cap. Why do tfa and cap lead the market (seems to me at least) in the diy realm? Are they really the 'best' out there?

Hoping i'm impressed with FA, just ordered @15 different flavors from them :)
 
Capella , at least the flavors I've tried , seem to be the truest flavors. There vanilla custard, ny cheese cake, and cinnamon danish swirl are amazing. From what I read a lot of there other flavors are top notch too. Only down side is there price. Tfa has great flavors but not quite as good as capella but pricing make up for it. Capella range 14-20 bucks for 4oz bulk and tfa range 5-13 for 4oz bulk. This is all just from my experience and personal opinion.
 

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i only have tried a few cap,flavorart,Lorann,and tfa is where most of my flavors come from but i find that i do well with the tfa flavors be cause they are more sympathetic to my noobish mixing per say. which is why they are most likely a leader because they are more forgiving if over mixed or under
just a thought from a NuBiE
 

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I love Flavour Art. They are my favorite brand for anything but tobaccos. I hate their tobaccos... All of them. They are pretty concentrated. I use them anywhere from under 1% to 2%. (very rarely will I do 3%) I like that they are consistent and are all generally good. You should be pleased.
I personally don't care for most of Capella's flavors. TFA is hit and miss but they do have some excellent flavors. Problem with TFA (on top of the bad flavors) is their percentages are ALL over the place.
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What's the consensus on flavourart's line? From what I've read, FA's flavors are in general more concentrate and don't need as much of a percentage in a mix as say TFA and Cap. Why do tfa and cap lead the market (seems to me at least) in the diy realm? Are they really the 'best' out there?

Hoping i'm impressed with FA, just ordered @15 different flavors from them :)
 

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I haven't been doing this long but I have found FA to be quite good. That being said TPA and Cap are also good to me. The bonus with FA is the lower percentage used to achieve the same strength of taste. It is very economical.

As a side note I was surprised at how strong and chemically the FA flavors smell in the bottle. I found Cap and TPA smell fairly similar to how they taste. That being said the FA does not taste chemically to me and is quite good.
 

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I'm also new to DIY. I've ordered flavors made by German Flavours, DIY Flavor Shack, Inawera, and Nude Nicotine. Here are my thoughts on each...

German Flavours: I haven't steeped my tobacco flavored mixes for long yet, but they taste pretty good at the recommended 4% ratio after a day of sitting in the cupboard.

DIY Flavor Shack: I've tried their Banana Cream and Cranberry so far and think they taste great. My only turn-off from this brand is the high mixing ratios they recommend (15%-25%). Mixing at that ratio would make their flavors expensive, IMO, but I found that I like their Banana Cream at 7% and their Cranberry at around 10%, so I'll probably order more. Their flavors also seem to have coloring added, but that could just be a result of the flavor concentrates and not actual color additives. I thought it was coloring at first until I saw the cranberry flavor was more of a light yellow in color. The Banana Cream is a super bright yellow though.

Inawera: I've tried their RY4 and Miod (Honey). My first batch was an RY4/Honey blend and they just didn't jive well together. The Honey seemed to mute the RY4 and I wound up with a juice that didn't really seem to have RY4 or Honey flavor to it. I mixed a second batch of just plain RY4 ad the recommended ratio and it was much better.

Nude Nicotine: I just received my order from them pretty recently and their flavors seem like a great deal to me. The price/ml seems comparable to many other brands, but he recommended ratios are much lower (2.5% - 7.5%). I mixed up a batch of their Mayan Mocha at 2.5% yesterday, which is supposed to be incredible after steeping, and it was great after a quick steep in hot water for 30 minutes followed by letting it cool with the top off the bottle for about an hour. One thing I really like about their flavors, is that they are a blend of VG and Ethyl Alcohol, which makes them really thin and makes them really easy to blend.





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Loranne for me in the past have been all over the place with flavor percentages. So to me this was the worst flavoring to work with. Now I see talk recently of a new concentrated line of flavorings. From what I've read in a few recent post that 1% seems to be the norm but still lots of complaints on trying to get a decent mix out of those new flavors. So I guess my question would be does anyone have any other opinions on these new concentrates besides what I've already read?

I'm mostly a tobacco vaper so as far as tobaccos Hangsen is my No.1 go to flavoring. I do like the capella as far as non tobaccos and TFA to me seems hard to work with and flavoring percentages are all over the place but once you master TFA you do seem to get some tasty mixes. I use TFA for certain flavors which I use as notes but seldom use them as a base flavoring. If it's a non tobacco vape I'm after I go to capella for my base flavoring. I use a lot of TFA's molecules and additives.

Inawera has there good and bad points like TFA. I like there DNB and a few of there tobaccos but most of there tobaccos just taste off to me. I use a select few inawera non tobacco flavors as notes for both non tobacco and tobacco mixes as well.
 
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Loranne for me in the past have been all over the place with flavor percentages. So to me this was the worst flavoring to work with. Now I see talk recently of a new concentrated line of flavorings. From what I've read in a few recent post that 1% seems to be the norm but still lots of complaints on trying to get a decent mix out of those new flavors. So I guess my question would be does anyone have any other opinions on these new concentrates besides what I've already read?

I'm mostly a tobacco vaper so as far as tobaccos Hangsen is my No.1 go to flavoring. I do like the capella as far as non tobaccos and TFA to me seems hard to work with and flavoring percentages are all over the place but once you master TFA you do seem to get some tasty mixes. I use TFA for certain flavors which I use as notes but seldom use them as a base flavoring. If it's a non tobacco vape I'm after I go to capella for my base flavoring. I use a lot of TFA's molecules and additives.

Inawera has there good and bad points like TFA. I like there DNB and a few of there tobaccos but most of there tobaccos just taste off to me. I use a select few inawera non tobacco flavors as notes for both non tobacco and tobacco mixes as well.

Danny,

Do you know where to find these (specific) Lorann flavorings you've seen mentioned?
 
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I've tried a few different flavors from TFA, FA, Capella, Hangsen, VZ SC line, and Inawera. I think I can find some things I like in all of them, but I'm the most excited by the few things I've tried from Inawera.

I think it's great that we do have a broad selection to choose from with new stuff being added all the time, but like everybody, I do get a little frustrated trying to suit my weird and wonky taste buds lol.

A couple of TFA flavors I can't live without.
Vanilla Swirl. An excellent ice cream type vanilla that mixes well with anything and everything.
Brown Sugar Extra. At low dosage, tastes to me like brown sugar and white sugar mixed.

Edit: To the op: I do plan on trying the sweetener you mentioned over in the German thread.
 
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I am a tobacco vaper for the most part, but I mess around with other flavors too. My favorites are Inawera, Flavors express, and Flavourart.
Next is Hangsen.
Newcomer German Flavors is really turning me on.
then comes Capella, Flavor West, and TPA
I haven't tried Lorann yet.
DIY flavorshack I avoid at all costs. They come off as a flavor Manufacturer, but they are not. DIY mixes commercial flavors and rebottles them, and then sells them at expensive prices. I imagine they buy Flavorwest, and TPA....explaining the high %s
 

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I have bought a lot from DIY Flavorshack. I realize that they don't make flavors but it has been convenient for us when ordering pre mixed to save on shipping. The quality has always been good. Still cheaper than buying pre mix at most places even with high percent.

But... the longer I do this, the less that I buy from them.

My wife's ADV I still can't replicate so I buy from them once a month. They throw in samples and freebies. Still cheaper than a weeks worth of smokes.
 

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I haven't done a lot yet, but I try, when possible, to buy at least two brands of any given flavor. Now with all of my preferences you have to keep in mind that I don't generally like things sweet.

So far Nature's Flavors is the best for Earl Grey Tea (as opposed to Signature, which I believe is Flavour Art?) and for English Toffee, with Lorann coming in dead last - and completely unvapeable for that flavor. NF also won the Cranberry contest over Flavor West and TFA, and Black Currant over Flavour Art and Signature - which may be the same.

Burley Tobacco I love Inawera and am not loving German Flavors, though GF is still steeping. Inawera Two apples also led the tart apple field for my taste. Pineapple I prefer Tasty Puff Pucked Up Pineapple to Flavor West Pineapple. I prefer Inawera Vanilla Tahity to TFA Bourbon Vanilla as an additive to other flavors.

So over all, I'll probably lean towards Nature's Flavors and Inawera for future choices, though I'll still try at least two brands when I branch out more. I am experimenting with some other flavors that were on sale and sounded good, or just sounded like fun to try, but haven't done comparisons on any of those yet.
 

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I haven't done a lot yet, but I try, when possible, to buy at least two brands of any given flavor. Now with all of my preferences you have to keep in mind that I don't generally like things sweet.

So far Nature's Flavors is the best for Earl Grey Tea (as opposed to Signature, which I believe is Flavour Art?) and for English Toffee, with Lorann coming in dead last - and completely unvapeable for that flavor. NF also won the Cranberry contest over Flavor West and TFA, and Black Currant over Flavour Art and Signature - which may be the same.

Burley Tobacco I love Inawera and am not loving German Flavors, though GF is still steeping. Inawera Two apples also led the tart apple field for my taste. Pineapple I prefer Tasty Puff Pucked Up Pineapple to Flavor West Pineapple. I prefer Inawera Vanilla Tahity to TFA Bourbon Vanilla as an additive to other flavors.

So over all, I'll probably lean towards Nature's Flavors and Inawera for future choices, though I'll still try at least two brands when I branch out more. I am experimenting with some other flavors that were on sale and sounded good, or just sounded like fun to try, but haven't done comparisons on any of those yet.

Signature is TPA.

Try FA Fuji Apple and compare it to Two Apples. For me, Fuji Apple wins big time. NF Ginger is really authentic, but you have to use it sparingly. I'd say be careful with Nature's Flavors becasue when they get a flavor wrong, man, they get it really wrong! But, I guess that can said about all the rest too.
 
When I started DIY, I was content to just make unflavored juice, because it did the job for me and is dirt cheap and drop dead simple to make. I picked up a couple of flavorings for the heck of it though, since they are relatively cheap compared to smoking, so I would have something to mess around with and break up the monotony once in a while. It did not even really matter what the flavors were really, just something to change things around now and then. As long as I was getting enough nicotine, it was all good (or at least OK).

However, I have been trying to get my wife to fully make the switch from smoking. She will vape, but also still felt the need to smoke several times a day. So we talked about it, and it seems she is still pretty hooked on the flavor aspect of tobacco. So then I started experimenting with more flavorings, searching for something that would work better for her. Of course nothing will fully replace the taste and feel of smoking, but if I can get close enough, maybe it will work better for her. So based on info gathered here, I have been working on mixes with a wider range of flavorings, and have made a couple she actually likes, although she still ducks out for a smoke a few times a day. Maybe that will never change, but she has cut way back on the smokes, so it is OK.

But the funny thing is, now that I have experimented with a wider array of flavorings, I find myself wanting more and more of them. I scour threads in this forum, and check out offerings from many vendors, looking for good deals on things I have not tried yet. Now I do not have a really practical reason for doing so, but I have become fascinated with the arts and crafts aspect of DIY. I used to chuckle at the folks that have literally hundreds of flavorings and can't seem to help themselves from getting more, but now I see how it gets that way.

It is a heck of a lot of fun playing research mixologist, and as far as hobbies go, it is not terribly expensive and it is relatively accessible once the basics a firmly understood. So now I want more bottles. I want a good scale and a dedicated crock pot or UC. I want at least one of every flavoring under the sun, God help me. And of course I need to dedicate more space in my home and get serious about organizing my equipment, supplies, and test mixes.

Funny thing though is that I still like unflavored a lot, and vape more of that than any flavor I have tried. So it is certainly not about needing to create a specific juice. No, it is about the hunt. I suppose maybe it satisfies some primal urge to chase and kill things and eat them or something. And that is OK, since no cute and furry animals are harmed in the process, and I have a new creative outlet. I could go on forever about it, but I have some mixing to do, so please forgive me for ducking out.
 
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I'm having a reaction to something in flavorings or a sweetener. The roof of my mouth gets like when you bite a pizza and burn it. I thought it was PG so I got some nic in VG and made up a base. I also have some chocolate variants from Open Source Vapor. Even those do it. Unflavored VG was the only thing I could vape. Last night I tried some unflavored 50/50 and I am fine with that so I guess it is not the PG. Rats

I just got a bunch of TFA flavors. My favorites have been Black Honey tobacco and RY4D. One of those may have triggered this but now everything seems to be a problem.

I guess I will have to try one thing at a time that I haven't had in a while and hope to find something. Problem with that is that it can take overnight to heal up the mouth.

I've been doing unflavored for a while know as a break from flavors but not liking the thought of only unflavored until I give up vaping.
 

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I'm having a reaction to something in flavorings or a sweetener. The roof of my mouth gets like when you bite a pizza and burn it. I thought it was PG so I got some nic in VG and made up a base. I also have some chocolate variants from Open Source Vapor. Even those do it. Unflavored VG was the only thing I could vape. Last night I tried some unflavored 50/50 and I am fine with that so I guess it is not the PG. Rats

I just got a bunch of TFA flavors. My favorites have been Black Honey tobacco and RY4D. One of those may have triggered this but now everything seems to be a problem.

I guess I will have to try one thing at a time that I haven't had in a while and hope to find something. Problem with that is that it can take overnight to heal up the mouth.

I've been doing unflavored for a while know as a break from flavors but not liking the thought of only unflavored until I give up vaping.

Definitely do single mixes from different manufacturers, and of course at different percentages, until you can pinpoint the issue. You also may want to stick to manufacturers that produce flavoring that require very little in the mix to constitute a generous amount of flavoring.
 

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Personally, I'd have to give FA the five star rating above all others. I have only one or two of their flavors I'd didn't care for, cappucino and tiramisu, but overall I consider the manufacturers to all be comparable.

I feel like TFA has more flavors I dislike but I have tried more of their flavors. CA, I have generally had good experiences with, so I'd probably put them second after FA. INW, I've only tried 3 of their flavors, and I have to say I'm impressed with what I've gotten. Unfortunately, I've yet to order any Hangsen, FW, or VZ just too many flavors, not enough money.
 
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