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Kegger

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I don't know. A lot of people say that using a small allan key, precision screwdriver, toothpick, etc. helps keep everything spaced out good and aids in rolling. I figure if you can roll your own cigs, or other things, you should be able to handle some mesh..maybe

My only confusion is, how does it keep from unrolling once it is rolled, or does the oxidating process kinda glue and weld it together?
 

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I don't know. A lot of people say that using a small allan key, precision screwdriver, toothpick, etc. helps keep everything spaced out good and aids in rolling. I figure if you can roll your own cigs, or other things, you should be able to handle some mesh..maybe

I'll definitely give it a shot, I just don't have high expectations for my ability to roll anything that thin anymore. Might be a whole new service industry idea there for those who can.
 

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My only confusion is, how does it keep from unrolling once it is rolled, or does the oxidating process kinda glue and weld it together?

My understanding is it's something like that. I think it takes a butane torch to properly oxidize it. That kind of heat will surely help it keep its shape.
 

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That fine of mesh should keep together pretty well on it's own. Maybe not sticking to itself, but should hold some form. Oxidating it while quenching it or when it is covered in juice should stiffen it up and help it keep its form even more so.

Doesn't it HAVE to be oxidized to make it non-conductive? I would think the risk of shorts would raise dramatically otherwise.
 

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Doesn't it HAVE to be oxidized to make it non-conductive? I would think the risk of shorts would raise dramatically otherwise.

Yes it does. And yes, it would most likely be shorts galore. I just meant that it should roll fairly easy without oxidization..not that it should be used prior to oxidizing the SS.

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So question, what do you think about this when it comes to rebuilding the ViVi Nova.

cotton or bamboo wick, threaded thru a small SS wick that fits just in and barely extending from out from the sides of the head.

all the heat exposure is places on the SS, creating mearly a dry hit, rather than scorching the natural wicking material. the wick would act as a regulator preventing flooding of the head when it tipped/tilted. and the SS would prevent choking off the wick.

I know it seems to be a lot of work for a Nova Head, but if the theory is sound, longevity should be incredible, and lead to more pushing more volts at it. Plus, the SS should out live the wick, and with a needle you could simply thread in a new wick.
 

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Yes it does. And yes, it would most likely be shorts galore. I just meant that it should roll fairly easy without oxidization..not that it should be used prior to oxidizing the SS.

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OK, gotcha. I'm still baffled by the fact that SS can wick.
 

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So question, what do you think about this when it comes to rebuilding the ViVi Nova.

cotton or bamboo wick, threaded thru a small SS wick that fits just in and barely extending from out from the sides of the head.

all the heat exposure is places on the SS, creating mearly a dry hit, rather than scorching the natural wicking material. the wick would act as a regulator preventing flooding of the head when it tipped/tilted. and the SS would prevent choking off the wick.

I know it seems to be a lot of work for a Nova Head, but if the theory is sound, longevity should be incredible, and lead to more pushing more volts at it. Plus, the SS should out live the wick, and with a needle you could simply thread in a new wick.

I think I saw a post in the safe materials thread where a guy did something like that with cheese cloth inside the SS with great success. I don't think it was a Vivi Nova head but I don't see why that would be different if you can get it small enough.
 

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OK, gotcha. I'm still baffled by the fact that SS can wick.

It's a matter of capillary action.. Don't know if you could say that it "wicks", but without getting scientific or any of that, that's as good of word as any. lol

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So question, what do you think about this when it comes to rebuilding the ViVi Nova.

cotton or bamboo wick, threaded thru a small SS wick that fits just in and barely extending from out from the sides of the head.

all the heat exposure is places on the SS, creating mearly a dry hit, rather than scorching the natural wicking material. the wick would act as a regulator preventing flooding of the head when it tipped/tilted. and the SS would prevent choking off the wick.

I know it seems to be a lot of work for a Nova Head, but if the theory is sound, longevity should be incredible, and lead to more pushing more volts at it. Plus, the SS should out live the wick, and with a needle you could simply thread in a new wick.

I'll have to dig up some notes on that. I know the SS has been done in a Nova..

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I think I saw a post in the safe materials thread where a guy did something like that with cheese cloth inside the SS with great success. I don't think it was a Vivi Nova head but I don't see why that would be different if you can get it small enough.

The size of the wick could be bigger as well, all a person would have to do to the Nova head is file or dremel the slots a bit wider.
 

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It's a matter of capillary action.. Don't know if you could say that it "wicks", but without getting scientific or any of that, that's as good of word as any. lol

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I kinda get the whole capillary action thing, I'm just amazed that SS can do it.
 

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The size of the wick could be bigger as well, all a person would have to do to the Nova head is file or dremel the slots a bit wider.

Definitely worth a shot. All I've heard is that it's nirvana once it's been re-wicked. There was a very particular brand and size of cotton yarn that fits the slots perfectly and turns the thing into a freight train. Don't remember exactly what it was but it was bought at Michaels I believe.
 

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The size of the wick could be bigger as well, all a person would have to do to the Nova head is file or dremel the slots a bit wider.

I have seen many a thing about drilling the hole a bit bigger..when I get home tonight, I might do that with one of my heads, if I have time. Get it ready for some bamboo action tomorrow!

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Definitely worth a shot. All I've heard is that it's nirvana once it's been re-wicked. There was a very particular brand and size of cotton yarn that fits the slots perfectly and turns the thing into a freight train. Don't remember exactly what it was but it was bought at Michaels I believe.

Well I'm going to grab some size 10 yarn tomorrow. I know Bob has played with the stuff, I'm sure he will chime in at some point with a better idea!

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Okay holmeseses....
5 days on this rebuildable. No gunk on the coils, wick looks good....I consider this a win.
My last $9 atty from ikenvape lasted me about 2 weeks and it had less mileage on it than this one does...oh yeah..I CAN REBUILD THIS ONE...
Plus no other atty has mainlined the Nic like this one:D..I like Nic in case you didnt know...

My job sucks....the next 7-8 weeks are really going to suck. On the bright side...I plan on using some of the mega overtime I'm about to get to buy a Saber...cuz im worth it.
 

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Okay holmeseses....
5 days on this rebuildable. No gunk on the coils, wick looks good....I consider this a win.
My last $9 atty from ikenvape lasted me about 2 weeks and it had less mileage on it than this one does...oh yeah..I CAN REBUILD THIS ONE...
Plus no other atty has mainlined the Nic like this one:D..I like Nic in case you didnt know...

My job sucks....the next 7-8 weeks are really going to suck. On the bright side...I plan on using some of the mega overtime I'm about to get to buy a Saber...cuz im worth it.

7-8 weeks of OT, sounds like you can affort to buy the AC9 for that saber and have plenty to spare
 
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