this was posted on a chilis door in bradenton FL. How can they try and pull this crap??
ALL VAPERS look at this pic! what do you think?
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this was posted on a chilis door in bradenton FL. How can they try and pull this crap??
i've been trying to find any type of ordinance and i don't see any. actually found one in washington state that approves the use of ecigs indoors which is awesome i sent a link of the story to my state representive and urged him to take a look and to determine his own opinion on the subject.
Not trying to start an argument here.....but what really is so hard about not vaping on the premises?
Honestly....with sub-ohm vaping gaining a popularity, and more and more people cloud chasing and blowing HUGE plumes of vapor in public....it shouldn't surprise anyone one bit that more and more establishments are going to ban vaping.
I'm not against cloud chasing at all, but I'm also not against businesses choosing what they allow, or don't allow, on their own property.
Heck, if a business posts a sign saying "MUST WEAR BLUE SHIRTS ONLY", that is THEIR imperative...and there is nothing wrong with that, aside from the fact that it will obviously kill their business from lack of customers.
Vaping is relatively new (5 years, give or take), and it looks very similar to smoking, so it is understandable that establishments might not want people to vape in front of/in their stores. Add sub-ohm vaping and mods that look like bricks to the mix, and it just adds fuel to the fire.
I'm not against cloud chasing at all, but I'm also not against businesses choosing what they allow, or don't allow, on their own property.
Heck, if a business posts a sign saying "MUST WEAR BLUE SHIRTS ONLY", that is THEIR imperative...and there is nothing wrong with that, aside from the fact that it will obviously kill their business from lack of customers.
Vaping is relatively new (5 years, give or take), and it looks very similar to smoking, so it is understandable that establishments might not want people to vape in front of/in their stores. Add sub-ohm vaping and mods that look like bricks to the mix, and it just adds fuel to the fire.
i understand what your saying and i agree the huge clouds are a good argument but they can't fine you its not under the non smoking ban (atleast yet) so what they are doing isn't right in my opinion
Vaping isn't a god given right, and I've seen some folks in the wild being very obnoxious with their "clouds". This should come as a surprise to no one. I have absolutely no issue with a business stating that e-cigs are not allowed.
I have a friend who used to bartend at chilis, and he said that the policy started because of employees vaping in front of diners, and then spread to a company wide ordinance.
I've seen people vaping on public transport. With people around them complaining.
People like that are ruining it for people who want to and will abide by the rules.
Regardless, if it's private property they can do what they want. Each to their own.
People like that are ruining it for people who want to and will abide by the rules.
Regardless, if it's private property they can do what they want. Each to their own.
Because that's not on the premises. If that site entrance is on a public street they have no right no make a claim to what is allowable public behavior within 50 feet of their entrance, unless an ordinance was passed prohibiting that specific behavior within a specific distance to the entrance of a business. Short version: You can't make up rules like that, just because you feel like it.
To the OP, do you know if anything of the sort was passed regarding prohibiting vaping near the entrance of a business?
It varies in WA state. In King County, it has been treated like smoking for years. You can't vape indoors or within 20 ft of any business, etc.
I agree with this as well.... It only takes a few bad apples to give us all a bad name.
Exactly.
If the "within 50 feet of the entrance" is on their private property, they can prohibit it.
If the "within 50 feet of the entrance" is on public property, e.g. a public sidewalk, they have no jurisdiction over that public sidewalk. In that case, the government / city hall has jurisdiction over that public sidewalk.
I think Starbucks was once planning to prohibit smoking x feet from the entrance of their outlets - in Germany.
I'd like to see them try to forbid a legal activity happening on the public sidewalk of a sovereign country. A public sidewalk owned by that sovereign country and peopled by free citizens of that sovereign country
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If it's the business and not the city, they can't fine you. They can kick you out, they can call the police if you refuse to leave, but they can't issue fines.
The main problem i see with it is that it puts smoking and vaping in the same catagory which will hurt vapers in the long run.
Unfotunately some people lack courtesy. When I smoked cigarettes, I never threw tgem out the car window or smashed them on the ground. I didn't want to be the cause of bans. Vaping is the same way. I ask before I do if there are non smokers around. I havent heard no but if I did I,d respect it. But that's just me.
That is probably probably some ordinance. A restaurant cannot fine you. My local Chili's still has a smoking section.
It's private property, they can do what they want.
However, if I did see that on the front door, I'd go inside, ask for the manager and tell him WHY they are not receiving the $100+ dollars I was planning on spending in their establishment and then quietly take my business elsewhere.
However, if I did see that on the front door, I'd go inside, ask for the manager and tell him WHY they are not receiving the $100+ dollars I was planning on spending in their establishment and then quietly take my business elsewhere.
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