I call it PARC. (Passive-Aggressive Random Capitalization)
Example:
He Rowed his Wi-Fi Shielded Canoe as fast as he Could to Escape the Angry Throng of NUTZ who were Chasing Him.
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ALL VAPERS look at this pic! what do you think?
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I call it PARC. (Passive-Aggressive Random Capitalization)
Example:
He Rowed his Wi-Fi Shielded Canoe as fast as he Could to Escape the Angry Throng of NUTZ who were Chasing Him.
The canoe is WiFi shielded, not enabled...
And I thought it was the Vapor Police in pursuit!
Roaring thunderously via Tapatalk...
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The canoe is WiFi shielded, not enabled...
And I thought it was the Vapor Police in pursuit!
Roaring thunderously via Tapatalk...
Thank you for Pointing out that Enabled for Shielded Typo Ed.
And JSYK. The NUTZ have Branched Out and have Infected many Inland Waterways. Patrolling them with Ski Do Watercrafts.
Forget?
It seems that there Isn't a Day that goes by that I am not Reminded of thier Presence.
Yeah, you two will certainly not run the risk of forgetting that term anytime soon....
Roaring thunderously via Tapatalk...
Never thought much of Chilis anyway, so they can sink into the ooze for all I care. Wouldn't smoke or vape in a restraunt or store anyway. What they've said with their sign is We Don't Want Your Business. I will definitely respond with "so, it shall be".
I would like to see that.
A German person standing on a German sidewalk in Germany, smoking a cigarette and, e.g., talking to some friends whom they just met.
An employee of a foreign-owned multinational company coming onto this German sidewalk and telling the German people standing on a German sidewalk to move away because they are like x feet (= y meters) from the storefront of that foreign-owned multinational company.
And that foreign-owned multinational company then calling the German police on German citizens - because those German citizens are standing on a German sidewalk, in Germany, talking to their friends.
Ordinary citizens. Standing on a sidewalk and having a conversation with their friends. Not loitering, begging or engaging in street music for money.
Yes, I would like to see that. I would like to see that very much indeed
And I would love to see the possible press coverage
I'd assume by calling the police and have you charged with trespassing as you are obviously not there to do business with the establishment on their terms, or if not that disturbing the peace. Both would seem quite adequate measures to ensure you are fined in some way or another.
If they had a clear way to fine you would it make a difference? Why not just ask the folks, how will you fine me if I vape on your property?
If the sign said no Smoking, no Vaping, no BJ's under the tables would you associate vaping with BJ's? An establishment that does not allow vaping is not always doing so because they look similar, more often they are doing so because the activity is not good for their business.
It doesn't have to be harmful even, much like the giant sheet of poster board attached to my top hat in a movie theater, it is perfectly harmless but intrusive as all get out to anyone behind me. I'm not going to run home and cry to my fellow poster board hat extension forum friends that it's totally unfair.
It isn't that big a deal to be considerate of others. When I eat I want to taste and smell my food, not some kids cranapple-ciniblast-ectospasum vapor mixed with the off gassing of his clothing smelling like he lit a hay bale sized batch of south of the border skunky stuff in the same yard he dried his laundry in.
I mean if folks want to make a big deal about stuff like this, hey, do what you can afford. Heck, have a vape in court, blow rings at the judge. When he tells folks hes going to hold them in contempt of court, I suggest you all blow a huge cloud and fart at the same time and ask him which one smells better.
Let us know how that pans out for you.
Maurice
I would like to see that.
A German person standing on a German sidewalk in Germany, smoking a cigarette and, e.g., talking to some friends whom they just met.
An employee of a foreign-owned multinational company coming onto this German sidewalk and telling the German people standing on a German sidewalk to move away because they are like x feet (= y meters) from the storefront of that foreign-owned multinational company.
And that foreign-owned multinational company then calling the German police on German citizens - because those German citizens are standing on a German sidewalk, in Germany, talking to their friends.
Ordinary citizens. Standing on a sidewalk and having a conversation with their friends. Not loitering, begging or engaging in street music for money.
Yes, I would like to see that. I would like to see that very much indeed
And I would love to see the possible press coverage
I'd worry less about the press coverage than the police you have in Germany, they don't play around with people that try to get snotty.
In any case are they not allowing smoking in such establishments now? When I was there you could just about smoke anywhere, vaping didn't exactly exist then. Heck you could buy smokes at every street corner from a vending machine.
Maurice
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Well, dear, you cannot smoke tobacco inside restaurants and the like, since 2008, I think.
Which contributed greatly to the closing of many pubs and restaurants, as the assault was two-fold:
1. In Jan 2002, the Euro currency was introduced (1 Euro = 1.94 Deutsche Mark) - which many restaurants etc took as a great opportunity to almost double their prices
effect: many consumers got annoyed and stopped going out so much. Eating out regularly declined very much. Many restaurants realized their mistake and decreased prices again later, but forget it: fool me once.... and you lose my business.
2. In 2008 (I think it was) the smoking ban came to restaurants, bars, dancing establishments
effect: smoking ban 6 years after a drastic price increase = many smokers stayed away completely, in addition to the non-smokers who were also struck by the Euro introduction.
And I am very happy that my disco-going times were over already, as many colleagues reported that discos started to reek of sweat.
I have no idea what young people do, but my friends and I invite each other to our homes.
No use spending a lot of money going out.
And thank you for the nice compliment
I would like to see that.
A German person standing on a German sidewalk in Germany, smoking a cigarette and, e.g., talking to some friends whom they just met.
An employee of a foreign-owned multinational company coming onto this German sidewalk and telling the German people standing on a German sidewalk to move away because they are like x feet (= y meters) from the storefront of that foreign-owned multinational company.
And that foreign-owned multinational company then calling the German police on German citizens - because those German citizens are standing on a German sidewalk, in Germany, talking to their friends.
Ordinary citizens. Standing on a sidewalk and having a conversation with their friends. Not loitering, begging or engaging in street music for money.
Yes, I would like to see that. I would like to see that very much indeed
And I would love to see the possible press coverage
Funny, the EU has told Germans what to do,and Germans have fallen lock step behind EU regulations.
Odd how a neighbor of Germany, the Czech Republic, still stands up for their freedom and ignores EU nonsense...
Precisely
And employees of some foreign-based multinational company leaving their outlet to get snotty with German citizens who are standing on a German-owned sidewalk within Germany - up to 15 meters (!) (approx 50 feet) from the storefront of that multinational company's outlet - now, that might not go over well.
I was talking about outside, on the sidewalk, if you have read my posting. I was not talking about inside, on the premises of the outlet.
I do not purchase from that company or their outlets, by the way.
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Enter the prime example of "the ugly American".
Who has no idea about the EU and the TPD, it appears. As was to be expected.
I was waiting for "the ugly American" to make his entrance. And here he is. Welcome, stevegmu.
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Did I call them an ANTZ? I thought I said they give credibility to the ANTZ by parroting their claims. I did leave the possibility for that with "allegedly us" but I didn't call them an ANTZ.
Actually I don't trust Chinese liquid because of that. And it's not the nicotine, it's the PG/VG. And it's not necessarily China, it's the barrel factories/cleaners. But I figure China has such a large flow of manufacturing they're more likely to have a slip up with the wrong barrel goes to the wrong place or doesn't get cleaned enough.
I make my own liquid.
But the studies of vapor were done with average vapor. It doesn't matter where it comes from, the studies were done on the end result.
After 2 years without a cigarette I'm pretty much over the crap shoot stage. After 4 years of being around ecigs I'm pretty much over wondering if it's safe and the only thing left is what happens to vapers after 20-50 years of vaping. The question of our exhales has already been answered.
If you want some real answers you'll stop listening to the ANTZ kool-aid. They've proven (and admitted) time and time again they are willing to lie and cheat to get what they want.
@stevegmu:
Now now.... one should be familiar with standard terms such as "The ugly American", especially if one likes to vacation abroad and then one refers to those countries as "a bizarro world".
I generally like Americans, and I have known quite a few Americans personally, I have also lived in the States and I liked it very much.
But rude, overbearing behavior is not generally well received. Especially abroad.
Now now.... one should be familiar with standard terms such as "The ugly American", especially if one likes to vacation abroad and then one refers to those countries as "a bizarro world".
I generally like Americans, and I have known quite a few Americans personally, I have also lived in the States and I liked it very much.
But rude, overbearing behavior is not generally well received. Especially abroad.
You may want to look up what bizarro world means in pop culture. Here's a hint- it isn't deragatory like the term ugly American.
Sadly, my repeating your claim won't make it true. We have plenty of data to suggest that e-cigs pose no more threat than any other day-to-day activity you might casually perform. What we don't have is an iron-clad guarantee that there won't arise some obscure, long-term, and frankly improbable health risk associated with regularly inhaling compounds we know generally to be safe. There are also exceptional cases that may carry extra risk -- sub-ohm vaping, for example, or a preference for certain flavorings (notably diacetyl) -- but as a general principle, based on the typical use case, we know the risks to be negligible.
Read the Burstyn analysis. E-cig vapor falls well within OSHA air quality standards for the primary user. That means that an employer can legally compel you, as a condition of your employment, to breathe far worse air than what comes directly out of a PV. Needless to say, the risk to bystanders (from so-called second-hand vapor) is miniscule to the point of irrelevance.
Are e-cigs 100% safe? No, but certainly safe enough that it would be irrational for you to spend any considerable time worrying about the risk.
As for the possibility that a vendor (whether in China or elsewhere) might screw up your e-juice or your batteries, that risk always exists for any product you buy. Regulations might very well reduce that risk, but there is no magic wand to ensure total safety. Regular old tort law, along with various extant consumer protections, already provides most of the protection we're likely to receive from regulation.
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In any case, the problems we face on a local, national, and even international level have very little to do with altruistic health concerns, and even less to do with the supposed antics of inconsiderate vapers. If you truly believe otherwise, then you're not paying attention.
Start informing yourself.
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Thank you, Fulgurant. Very well said indeed 
In this connection, here is a great text from the US National Library of Medicine :
Achieving appropriate regulations for electronic cigarettes of March 2014. It is quite interesting to read
Oh, and actually there is a lot of real data on ecigs: Clinical Research: Electronic Cigarettes
In this connection, here is a great text from the US National Library of Medicine :
Achieving appropriate regulations for electronic cigarettes of March 2014. It is quite interesting to read
Oh, and actually there is a lot of real data on ecigs: Clinical Research: Electronic Cigarettes
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