Am I the ONLY one that doesn't like the KR808D-1???

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jphurley

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jp....If you have an 801 soft rubber whistle tip it will fit on the carto. of a Kr808D-1 with a little work and once stretched it will fit easily after that, I've been using them for a long time.
John

Thanks for the tip John! I'll definitely have to try that. Where's your favorite place to order the tips from? Litecigusa has been my favorite vendor so far - but it doesn't look as if they carry those.
 

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I have ordered some kr cartos from Drew.. Should get them this week.. Hope they taste good.. Decided to try this on my 510, js, & Protege when it comes in.. Ordered the adaptor from altsmoke.. If I like them will probably do this for now on. I thought I would try the green smoke & just ordered the pt & it came with 5 cartos.. Yuck!! Just got it in this morning & hate the taste. It tastes like perfume.. Got the 16mg with malb. I flushed it out with hot water dried it up & put some ry#4 & still get that yucky taste. Going to try & boil it & see if i can get rid of it somehow. I hope drew's carto's don't taste like that..
 

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How about something like a Janty Stick 901 adaptor....I cartomize on both my protege and JS the JS is very stealth..doesn't look like "equipment" and I get decent vape ...
Hey duck did u get the 901 adaptor from janty to use on js for the kr 808 adaptor. Also did u add another adaptor to this as well. If so would that adaptor from vapor country work. I would like to do this to my js but just wanted to make sure first what u used. I see they are out of 901 adaptors on the jansty site, but would wait to order 1.
 

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Hey duck did u get the 901 adaptor from janty to use on js for the kr 808 adaptor. Also did u add another adaptor to this as well. If so would that adaptor from vapor country work. I would like to do this to my js but just wanted to make sure first what u used. I see they are out of 901 adaptors on the jansty site, but would wait to order 1.

yes the 901 adaptor from janty is the what you need to use since the js is so deep after that the vapor country one is needed not only for ventilation but to extend the carto out side the tube

instead of the adaptor from vc you could use this and dremel a tiny hole in it for ventilation its a bit cheaper way of doing it
Battery charger extension adapter for DSE901 Mini e-Cigarette manual pushbutton batteries

it will stick out as much as an 801 cart would on the js
 

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One last piece of advice, if you have an auto battery, try and make sure the holes on the battery are lined up with the notches on the cart. That took me a few days to figure out, and really helped me out.

My cart has four notches and the battery has two holes. When I screw them together, I can't see the holes to know if they're lined up. What am I missing here?

Yes, I am blonde. :oops:

thanks!
jm
 

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I just got my first KR today.
ive tried 4 different carto's. virginia, cool, nuport, and caramel, all have about 1/2 the output that the video in this thread show.
My evolution as been from an rn4081 to a 510 to a VK.
I will admit that when i first popped on one of the menthol cartos, i was taken back at how strong and clear the flavor was. but the vapor output is dismal.
I was hoping it was just me or my technique. but it's not looking that way.
im fine with the reduced vapor output as long as im still getting the nicotine i need to make it through the day. but as one of the "signs" being gone, i wonder if im getting it.

Do these have a break-in period like normal attys do?
 
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Yes i have found they have a break in, about half-way or so through the cart it picks up to a fog machine (on all the flavors ive tryed anyway) it then keeps the performance untill it dies. I was disapointed with my 808 the first few hours, the 510 was much better, then the carto got going and all i can say is OMG, vapor hit and flavor the make the 510 look like a little toy!
 

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Ok - so I have to revise my original opinion about vapor on my KR808D being dismal or nonexistant. I started to get that awful burnt taste on my 510 - so I switched to my KR808D for all of yesterday while I soaked my 510 atty.

After vaping on the KR exclusively for a full day - vapor production more than doubled by last night. I think Dale s. is absolutely right in that there is some kind of break in period needed for the cartomizers. Until yesterday, I'd only vaped in small spurts on the KR808D and never for a full day. I don't think there's quite as much vapor as my 510, but it's pretty close.

Also...I have to admit that in terms of flavor, my KR808D blows the 510 away for me. I threw a fresh atty on my 510 this morning and after vaping for awhile to break in the new atty - I still found myself wanting to reach for the KR808D again because it tastes so much nicer.

So, in summary, I'm liking it far better than I did a couple of days ago . The trick for me seemed to be:

- Screwing the atomizer tightly onto the battery. It doesn't seem to make a difference in vapor production if I tighten it a bit past the battery hole or not. Though I notice an easier draw if I line up with the whole.

- Take *very* gentle, slow and deep draws (slow enough that I can hear a little 'sizzle' as I draw). This was awkward initially, but I got used to it by the end of the day so it was less of a conscious effort.

- Break in the cartomizer for about a day to achieve good vapor production

- Keep the cartomizer topped off. I notice less vapor for awhile if I overfill and, of course, if I run it too dry. A nice wet batting without noticeable juice pools around the edges seem to be perfect.

The bulky form factor is still a big negative for me...but I'm hoping 901 whistle tips other people have suggested will take care of that.
 

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Ok - so I have to revise my original opinion about vapor on my KR808D being dismal or nonexistant. I started to get that awful burnt taste on my 510 - so I switched to my KR808D for all of yesterday while I soaked my 510 atty.

After vaping on the KR exclusively for a full day - vapor production more than doubled by last night. I think Dale s. is absolutely right in that there is some kind of break in period needed for the cartomizers. Until yesterday, I'd only vaped in small spurts on the KR808D and never for a full day. I don't think there's quite as much vapor as my 510, but it's pretty close.

Also...I have to admit that in terms of flavor, my KR808D blows the 510 away for me. I threw a fresh atty on my 510 this morning and after vaping for awhile to break in the new atty - I still found myself wanting to reach for the KR808D again because it tastes so much nicer.

So, in summary, I'm liking it far better than I did a couple of days ago . The trick for me seemed to be:

- Screwing the atomizer tightly onto the battery. It doesn't seem to make a difference in vapor production if I tighten it a bit past the battery hole or not. Though I notice an easier draw if I line up with the whole.

- Take *very* gentle, slow and deep draws (slow enough that I can hear a little 'sizzle' as I draw). This was awkward initially, but I got used to it by the end of the day so it was less of a conscious effort.

- Break in the cartomizer for about a day to achieve good vapor production

- Keep the cartomizer topped off. I notice less vapor for awhile if I overfill and, of course, if I run it too dry. A nice wet batting without noticeable juice pools around the edges seem to be perfect.

The bulky form factor is still a big negative for me...but I'm hoping 901 whistle tips other people have suggested will take care of that.

Northwoods resident, huh? ;)
Yeah, as you have found out, it seems as if carts need some breaking in time before their maximum potential is reached, but you seem to have found the KR808D technique that works for you. Once you know that the occational initial lack of vapor is temporary, you are good to go!
And I echo JenJen's statement - if you don't have a manual, get one; preferably an extra long batt - it does make a noticable difference! Better hits, and more vapor - not to mention, longer lasting!
 

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I've tried VG...several times, letting it sit for a few minutes, up to overnight. No change, really.

I only hold it in for a second. I get vapor if I'm not inhaling, but other than that...it's measly.

Same with me I get lots of vapor esp on my green battery from V4L maybe it is your battery or batteries I havent tried the manual yet only the auto. I heard the manual gets great vapor but I really prefer the auto over the manual.:)
 

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Another one here who is underwhelmed with the cartomizer vapour production. Although I've only used blanks that I filled myself. Now the KR808D-1 battery is another matter - this thing is a powerhouse, and it with a 901 atomizer gives me the most vapour I've ever had. But I get better vapour from my Mseries with a good atomizer than these cartomizers. I still haven't tried a 510; I hate manual batteries.
 
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