Am I the only one who doesn't think think the Provari is "all that"?

[pmos69]

But it's nice to brag that you spent $250 on some Icelandic thing that uses genuine polar bear hair for wicks, or whatever.

LOL.
That's what I would call dangerous DIY.

 

[john0821]

In all fairness I have had some mods that were pure garbage, the YJ being first and foremost, followed by a couple of egos, but generally I've also had good luck with most PVs. My original LT is still going strong as is my Vamo, so no complaints. Head units are another story entirely, but that's a different thread. No one is questioning Provari's quality, just whether or not said quality, and other factors such as user interface, justifies the price.

I'm not a Provari owner, but if there are people who want to spend $160 on a mod, then they have justified the price. From the reviews and threads that I have read, it's not as if a Provari isn't well made as you acknowledge. Basically, people are just paying, so it will be 1 less thing to worry about.

With that said, I am a Vamo user. Mine has been reliable for the past couple months other than it needing 6 or 7 clicks every now and then to turn on instead of 5 when I put a new battery in which I knew about before I purchased it. The Vamo just happens to be a good China made product in my experience just as a Provari maybe a good experience for someone else.

These threads about whether a well-made product is priced well never end well anyways. One guy maybe happy driving a Honda Civic while another might be happy with a BMW M3 even though both can have identical incomes and lifestyles. I do believe the same applies here.

 

[PLANofMAN]

I destroyed my Vamo within a month of owning it. I bought a Provari as a replacement. I plan on purchasing 2 more Vamos, mostly so I have a backup Vamo and because I want to "baton" it. I have used both a Vamo and a Provari in the same sitting, with the same attys, at the same voltage and the Provari setup tasted better.

I still think it's stupid to have the button and the screen on opposite sides, and I wish the Provari had more buttons, but I can understand why they went the route they did. Button failure on the Vamo (after dropping it repeatedly) is what did that one in, compounded by user error when I tried to take it apart to fix it.

I'm not a fanboy of the Provari, but it is a better mod than the Vamo. I can admit that, even though I prefer the Vamo's easy interface and menu system.

 

[cyclotron]

Just get an Android and you can make it do that.

 

[STVNMR]

There are plenty of batteries that vape well, but my biggest concerns are about accuracy and reliability. A friend of mine swore by his VMax until the button quit responding. Another dropped his LT and couldn't get it to work after that. They both have VAMOs now, and I'm waiting to see how long they'll last. While I can't speak for their new VAMOs, the voltage on both of their previous batteries gave me a different vape than with my ProVari, which meant I wasn't vaping at the number of volts their screens told me I was.

The consistently accurate voltage combined with the build quality make ProVari worth it for me. I'll gladly try other mods as they come out if a friend happens to get one and decides to share, but ProVari earned my trust and future business already.

 

[kiwivap]

If you actually read through my thread you would've understood the point.... Problems - Provari vs., (insert desired Provari copy), I would think you, (and anyone else), like I have found the problems with copies outweigh the Provari's by a very large margin....

I don't think its that large anymore. Since we don't know total no. of units sold or problems it remains speculative anyway. Provape even have answers on their site for recurring problems with the provari. The circuit board coming loose, attachments sitting crooked, the window coming loose... They do have issues sometimes.

Most people don't even know what VW is or how it functions to start with. The only reason they want a device with VW is because of what someone else posted and they want to follow in line with the trend....

That's your opinion on why people want something. A lot has been posted on the forum about what vw is. I think we could give people more credit here. The exact same argument could be made about the provari - that people don't even know what it is or how it functions but just follow a trend. But that would be nothing more than speculation on why people buy one.

I would bet if you had an experienced vaper that set up a Provari vs. (insert desired Provari copy), blindly, 99% wouldn't even notice a difference!!

Well if that's true, that would prove that a lot of people will be just as happy vaping a different mod. Which I believe they are.

About an hours worth of research on the forum will prove that.... I think there is merit in the reviews that PBusardo does, and that seems to be every device he reviews there is some mention about similarities to the Provari.... Ever wonder why?

I've noticed he uses it less these days, especially when he has vw mods to compare. But so what anyway? He has 6 recommended hardware devices, and only one is recommended twice - the Vamo.

The only difference is the clones have a VW feature, (again this can be achieved easily with info from this forum), and maybe a couple extra buttons!!

I wouldn't call them clones just because they have a tube. Some have an OLED screen, or a three button menu system that is easier to use, as well, that true. But I wouldn't even call these devices clones.

 

[kiwivap]

There are plenty of batteries that vape well, but my biggest concerns are about accuracy and reliability. A friend of mine swore by his VMax until the button quit responding. Another dropped his LT and couldn't get it to work after that. They both have VAMOs now, and I'm waiting to see how long they'll last. While I can't speak for their new VAMOs, the voltage on both of their previous batteries gave me a different vape than with my ProVari, which meant I wasn't vaping at the number of volts their screens told me I was.

The Vmax and LT would have been vaping at different volts to what was set - they don't have RMS like the Vamo and a lot of newer mods do.
My first Vamo cost $30 - I've used it heavily for the last two months with no problems.
I'd expect something seven times that price to perform well, but the fact is this $30 pv is performing well.

 

[Hello World]

I would bet if you had an experienced vaper that set up a Provari vs. (insert desired Provari copy), blindly, 99% wouldn't even notice a difference!!

Can't speak for (insert desired Provari copy), but both the ZAP and AGA-T2 RBAs perform equally well on either the Provari or the eVic providing the wattage does not exceed 11 for the eVic. That's determination by taste, not scope. In fact I swap them around indescribably. Neither one has given me any error messages either or malfunctioned in any way, shape or form.

 

[kiwivap]

Does it make my vaping experience the "heavenly nirvana" many would have you believe? No. Does it make my juice taste better? No. My carto's don't last longer, my tanks don't stay cleaner and the laser guided targeting system isn't that effective if the truth be told. So no, it's not the end all beat all perfect for everyone device. In fact there are a couple minor things that I don't really like about it! I wish the fire button was placed higher and I wish the battery cap had more grip to it. I find it hard with my large fingers to take it off at times.
BUT,
It is consistent, as everyone says, I've hit it and could tell it wasn't right and before I could say "What the Hell" I finally looked down to see the light flashing rapidly telling me the battery was dead. The menu system isn't nearly as complicated as people would have you believe, I'm an idiot most days and had it mastered in about 20min, yes, it's that easy! It just works! And works! If it doesn't, which it has failed to a couple of times, come to find out it was something I had done wrong! Atty wasn't screwed on tight, threads were dirty etc. Problems you have with all vaping equipment. Then the main reason I bought it after owning an LT, it's built like a tank! I don't cringe when I drop it. I don't worry using it around a welder, I don't concern myself if it falls out of my pocket on the skid steer. Now if I were to loose it, I'd be crushed, but every time that LT hit the floor I was certain it would be the last time it worked!

So is it the best? I don't know, it's the best built and that's what I wanted and needed, so it's the best for my needs. Kiwi seems to really like vw, so it's not the best for her. Some people prefer a bottom feeder, so it's not the best for them. Some people love the simplistic elegance of a mechanical, so it's not the best for them.
Thinking back to the Focus and Bently comparison, neither would work for me, I need to be able to pull a trailer and equipment when needed, I've got to have a truck!

I can agree with that Sawlight, and I think this was a really good post. I appreciated you saying what you prefer and why, and being even-handed towards other vapers.

 

[denali_41]

Provari has aexcellent track and that is well known and the only arguement anybody can come with getting one is to say "oh it cost 200 bucks" kinda pathetic .

provari has been around a helluva a lot longer then you little vamo,evic ,zmax or whatever little china cheapy pice of junk has been

and they are not going by the wayside any time soon,,unlike the china cheapies that just don't last 1+years !!

now prove those for-mentioned china cheapies can last a year ?

 

[kiwivap]

Provari has aexcellent track and that is well known and the only arguement anybody can come with getting one is to say "oh it cost 200 bucks" kinda pathetic .

provari has been around a helluva a lot longer then you little vamo,evic ,zmax or whatever little china cheapy pice of junk has been

and they are not going by the wayside any time soon,,unlike the china cheapies that just don't last 1+years !!

now prove those for-mentioned china cheapies can last a year ?

From what I've seen some people have said they prefer other features which the provari doesn't have. Calling other pvs junk is hyperbolic, but doesn't prove anything. And if a pv was released 6-8 months ago then obviously its not a year old yet. If some-one buys a new model car, drives it for 4 months with no problems, I don't tell them to prove it will last a year if they have had it four, five or six months. I'm gad they like the car and it works well. Same with a pv for me.

 

[Fury83]

Provari has aexcellent track and that is well known and the only arguement anybody can come with getting one is to say "oh it cost 200 bucks" kinda pathetic .

provari has been around a helluva a lot longer then you little vamo,evic ,zmax or whatever little china cheapy pice of junk has been

and they are not going by the wayside any time soon,,unlike the china cheapies that just don't last 1+years !!

now prove those for-mentioned china cheapies can last a year ?

How long has provari been out? A little over two years if we count from the v1 initial shipments. People have had them break too. It's a bit early to declare them the king of longevity that period.

How long has provape been around? How long has Joyetech been around?

Quite honestly, you are putting on a rather poor show here. I have china apv's, I have US/Europe mechanical mods and I have a provari...I don't necessarily think any of my non-provari purchases were bad or would be a poor choice for everyone else. People can come on here and see the devices being vetted, it's not a mystery. You blabbing about the provari being awesome and everybody else's stuff being crap is probably having the opposite effect you intend it to.

 

[Hello World]

Provari has aexcellent track and that is well known and the only arguement anybody can come with getting one is to say "oh it cost 200 bucks" kinda pathetic.

I got one, so not my argument, but the Provari is not my favorite mod. Each individual has to make his/her own mind what is right for him/herself.

provari has been around a helluva a lot longer then you little vamo,evic ,zmax or whatever little china cheapy pice of junk has been

We can discuss that in a year since the eVic was released only a couple of months ago. There was also a time when the Provari had no track record. Not into anyone's premonitions or tea leaf readings.

now prove those for-mentioned china cheapies can last a year?

In progress on certain good-quality products ... not interested in anyone's predictions though.
What choir are you preaching to?

 

[denali_41]

you three sure put a lot of effort to trying to convince whoever that the china cheapys are gonna last a long time

face it,,we all know they won't !! there's reports all over this forum of them already dead and dying

 

[Fury83]

Or you are trolling

btw...is it really 50 bucks to ship a mortar? I almost bought the little mortarita or something but 50 dollars to ship something that wasn't especially expensive turned me off.

 

[denali_41]

nah i'm not trolling ,im bored and it fun to watch the provari haters struggle to prove their 50$ piece of junk is the best thing since sliced bread ,,kiwi is the most entertaining of them all

shipping from the phils is as much as a new provari 200 bucks

 

[Fury83]

you three sure put a lot of effort to trying to convince whoever that the china cheapys are gonna last a long time

face it,,we all know they won't !! there's reports all over this forum of them already dead and dying

Yup trolling

 

[Fury83]

nah i'm not trolling ,im bored and it fun to watch the provari haters struggle to prove their 50$ piece of junk is the best thing since sliced bread ,,kiwi is the most entertaining of them all

shipping from the phils is as much as a new provari 200 bucks

I didn't like it enough for that much shipping. I have paid for shipping from Greece but that is not too bad.

So am I a Provari hater?

 

[PLANofMAN]

Just checked out the Provari subforum to see what all the fuss is about. Wow, what a cult! Somewhere between the Summer of Love and Jonestown, I think. I've tried these things, and while they're undeniably nice units, imho they really don't vape any better than my old LT 1.0. Sure, build quality, yada yada, but actual performance? In real life? Could someone tell me what I'm missing so I can finally drink the kool-aid?

You need a tinfoil hat to go with the kool-aid. Can't join the club unless you have the right head gear.

You are right. ProVari's don't offer much beyond an extreamely durable body and reliable voltage output.

...oh wait, isn't that why people buy them?

 

[Fury83]

You need a tinfoil hat to go with the kool-aid. Can't join the club unless you have the right head gear.

You are right. ProVari's don't offer much beyond an extreamely durable body and reliable voltage output.

...oh wait, isn't that why people buy them?

I bought one to help me pick up chicks. Or maybe that was the evic or one of the other ones I bought that looks like a...well you know