Amazed at the Reluctance...

[mkbilbo]

Of smoker friends,family in giving vaping a try in an attempt to quit smoking. They all rationalize not trying to quit. I quit without really even trying to. Actually initially set out only to at least get rid of the useless habitual cigarettes and only have the good ones.(coffee,after a meal,se....)
They show interest initially then say" it's too confusing", "seems like a lot of effort"," heard there was antifreeze in those"...
Have explained, linked,and debunked all of those to no avail. Click on the link,order,pay and you're good to go. Effort? Getting dressed and driving to the store just get cigarettes first thing in the morning isn't? Or go outside of your own house in the freezing cold isn't? Antifreeze? I just tell them" yes it's depleted uranium but, you can trust big tobacco not to put anything extra in those cigarettes".
Just really frustrated by it. Had to vent...
Thanks

Yeah, show 'em the lists of what's in "real cigs" sometime. I've smoked, what, 30+ years and still said... I INHALED WHAT????

Like the cyanide of the kind used in "gas chamber" executions? That's in cigs. Um... wow...

 

[mkbilbo]

I suspect that smokers may be reluctant to try vaping because they're afraid it won't work any better than the other methods they've tried, like patches and gum. Quitting used to be such an awful experience before vaping came along.

Absolutely. Every quit attempt of mine over the years was a total horror story. If vaping had been presented to me as a "cessation" thing, I probably would have run for the hills. As it was, I tried one because it seemed like a cool toy. Then noticed I'd gone for hours and hours without a cig. Not yet totally free of the things but my use of them fell off a cliff. I'm still amazed.

I'm glad it was "accidental" because I had time to find I enjoy vaping more. I like to smoke, always have. But over the years, it became rote habit more than something I enjoyed. The times I enjoyed it became rare. Most times, it was nothing but a nicotine delivery system (along with a bazillion other things I could have done without all those years).

It's funny, I've rediscovered the whole pleasure smoking of my past in the form of pleasure vaping. And feel better even though tomorrow marks my official two weeks of vaping. So I'm still a newbie.

But in even such a short time, I've seen nice changes. One very cool milestone of a kind is I live rural and the mailbox is a bit of a walk. Not bad but not just at the curb (in fact, I have no "curb", I have a "street" that needs to be mowed). I could get mildly winded and would blow off going to check the mail at times, thinking "meh, next time I go to the store". That way, I could stop on the way back, not walk.

Not anymore. I walk to the mailbox daily now. It's nice outside (for now, this is Texas ). Short walk but pleasant. In fact, it's about time to go check. And it's nice out there. So I'm off...

 

[bigbells]

Absolutely. Every quit attempt of mine over the years was a total horror story. If vaping had been presented to me as a "cessation" thing, I probably would have run for the hills. As it was, I tried one because it seemed like a cool toy. Then noticed I'd gone for hours and hours without a cig. Not yet totally free of the things but my use of them fell off a cliff. I'm still amazed.

I'm glad it was "accidental" because I had time to find I enjoy vaping more. I like to smoke, always have. But over the years, it became rote habit more than something I enjoyed. The times I enjoyed it became rare. Most times, it was nothing but a nicotine delivery system (along with a bazillion other things I could have done without all those years).

It's funny, I've rediscovered the whole pleasure smoking of my past in the form of pleasure vaping. And feel better even though tomorrow marks my official two weeks of vaping. So I'm still a newbie.

But in even such a short time, I've seen nice changes. One very cool milestone of a kind is I live rural and the mailbox is a bit of a walk. Not bad but not just at the curb (in fact, I have no "curb", I have a "street" that needs to be mowed). I could get mildly winded and would blow off going to check the mail at times, thinking "meh, next time I go to the store". That way, I could stop on the way back, not walk.

Not anymore. I walk to the mailbox daily now. It's nice outside (for now, this is Texas ). Short walk but pleasant. In fact, it's about time to go check. And it's nice out there. So I'm off...

Absolutely beautiful, Mkbilbo. I haven't yet walked to my mailbox in the 28 days that I've been analog-free, but my mailbox is over half a mile from my house with no paved road and a 50 foot altitude differential in between.

 

[bigbells]

Yeah, show 'em the lists of what's in "real cigs" sometime. I've smoked, what, 30+ years and still said... I INHALED WHAT????

Like the cyanide of the kind used in "gas chamber" executions? That's in cigs. Um... wow...

It would not have moved me to be shown the ingredients in tobacco cigarettes. I would have rebelled, feeling like strong-arm tactics were being used. Like others have said: one is not ready until one is ready.

 

[DaveP]

I quit once for 2 1/2 years when I was in my 20's. It wasn't a thought out decision. It was a bet with someone close and neither of us wanted to give in and relapse. One day when I was in a stressful period (divorce) I bought a pack. When I got home I threw them into my desk drawer and didn't open them. The next day I smoked one, then another. I turned sickly green and didn't smoke for a couple of days. Gradually, I finished the pack and it was game on. I smoked for the rest of my life until I found ecigs. If it weren't for ecigs I'm sure I would still be puffing away.

 

[mkbilbo]

Absolutely beautiful, Mkbilbo. I haven't yet walked to my mailbox in the 28 days that I've been analog-free, but my mailbox is over half a mile from my house with no paved road and a 50 foot altitude differential in between.

Okay, that's a whole other challenge that!

Still, I was talking to my brother today and said I've noticed even my moods have picked up a bit. I just feel better. Sure, not run a marathon better but better. And it's just been a couple of weeks and I still do maybe three or four analogs a day. The "trend" is certainly going in a positive direction.

Guess that "oxygen" stuff really is good for ya huh?

 

[mkbilbo]

It would not have moved me to be shown the ingredients in tobacco cigarettes. I would have rebelled, feeling like strong-arm tactics were being used. Like others have said: one is not ready until one is ready.

Yeah, you're probably right. Even those awful photos they shove at you of cancer and what not never seemed to move me. I'd just kind of get ...... they were showing me that stuff.

Wonder if mentioning the flavors would help? I mean, see, I was a "pleasure smoker". I liked it. But over time, it turned into more just habit and half unconscious routine and, yeah, an addiction. And I had "a brand". Year after year after year. Same taste. Same routine. Rarely had those "pleasure" moments anymore.

Vaping is a whole new world. And the flavors and variations available? My head spins. The enjoyment aspect is back. And it'd hard to turn this one into "routine". Just the little shop not far from me (which I still haven't got up to yet but I'm going to) list 232 flavors on their website.

Uh... wow?

Flavor gets boring? Switch. Nice.

That's a big thing for me. That I enjoy this. Instead of a horror story like every freaking attempt to quit smoking was, this is pleasant and has interesting tastes to explore and makes cigs seem harsh and bland by comparison.

Man I wish I'd run into this years ago...

 

[indianajames]

I'd really like to see my kids quit smoking. (The baby is 23.) They live over 400 miles away, but when I go to visit next I'm taking most of my vaping gear, including a variety of juices, to let them try out. No preaching at them or anything, just a simple, "Just try it." If there's something they like I'll get them started. No big initial expenditure, therefore no "risk".

That's the plan, anyway.

I was a hardcore smoker before I quit and smoked more than all three of my kids combined. Knowing this they may be more open to giving it a shot. If it worked for Dad it could work for anyone; plus, if he's doing it it must be cool.