Travel and Vaping Amtrak responds to vaping inquiry
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There are plenty of nooks and crannies on the Amtrak where a person can sneak a puff. The restrooms are downstairs and rarely patrolled by the stewards. Other than that I will have to wait until they make stops and allow smokers to step out for a drag.
That amtrak lady is obtuse and absolute.
"There is also the possibility that the exhaled aerosol from an "e-cigarette" could contain nicotine, propylene glycol or other volatile materials"
Ummmm.. what is volatile, am i missing something?
"There is also the possibility that the exhaled aerosol from an "e-cigarette" could contain nicotine, propylene glycol or other volatile materials"
Ummmm.. what is volatile, am i missing something?
wow that is quite an informed response you received, even if not what you were hoping for. I'm surprised.
I always liked going undercover, anyway. When we were kids the smoke we sneaked behind the barn always tasted better than the ones we smoked when we came of age!
Sounds like Amtrak knows exactly what an e-cig is and has a very exact policy about vaping on a train or in the station.
Seems clear to me. Only Vape where you are allowed to Smoke. They are Amtraks trains right?
If I ever get to the point where I cant go without vaping for period of time and have to stealth vape, Ill seek professional help for Chemical and Psychological addiction.
Sneaking around taking a hits on an e-Cig sounds more like something children would do and not they way an adult would act.
Seems clear to me. Only Vape where you are allowed to Smoke. They are Amtraks trains right?
If I ever get to the point where I cant go without vaping for period of time and have to stealth vape, Ill seek professional help for Chemical and Psychological addiction.
Sneaking around taking a hits on an e-Cig sounds more like something children would do and not they way an adult would act.
What about us vapers that do not use nicotine, but like going thru the motions of smoking??? I know it's needless to discuss in this situation, but I was just sayin. The CSR may be well informed or educated in Vaping, however, again; not all use nicotine
Waitaminute..... Don't asthma inhalers also contain PG? Does that mean if someone is having an asthma attack, they won't be allowed to use their inhalers/vaporizers on the train? 
Waitaminute..... Don't asthma inhalers also contain PG? Does that mean if someone is having an asthma attack, they won't be allowed to use their inhalers/vaporizers on the train?
I don't see where they say that Asthma Inhalers are not allowed?
"Amtrak does not allow the use of these electronic smoking devices in any area on trains, on Thruway services, in stations, or in any other area where smoking is prohibited."
Trains are a much slower mode of transportation then planes or sometimes even cars
Amtrack is desperately in need of business , has been for a long time now.
They are missing the boat on this one. virtually every mode of public transportation has banned smoking , and it seems now vaping too.
Smokers and now vapers will continue to choose the fastest mode of public transportation to avoid being confined in a non smoking/vaping tin box. Thats not a train.
The no smoking I can understand , but trains used to have smoking cars at least.
The no vaping is the result of the FDA smear campaign , which is directly tied to tax money in my opinion.
Public transportation will not allow vaping if for no other reason then to keep the FDA out of their business and avoid complaints or lawsuits from the fanatical non smoking /vaping public.
Until the FDA's position is forced to change, nothing else will change.
Thats how I see this one, others opinions will vary. Thats good too. All points of view bring different things to the discussion
Amtrack is desperately in need of business , has been for a long time now.
They are missing the boat on this one. virtually every mode of public transportation has banned smoking , and it seems now vaping too.
Smokers and now vapers will continue to choose the fastest mode of public transportation to avoid being confined in a non smoking/vaping tin box. Thats not a train.
The no smoking I can understand , but trains used to have smoking cars at least.
The no vaping is the result of the FDA smear campaign , which is directly tied to tax money in my opinion.
Public transportation will not allow vaping if for no other reason then to keep the FDA out of their business and avoid complaints or lawsuits from the fanatical non smoking /vaping public.
Until the FDA's position is forced to change, nothing else will change.
Thats how I see this one, others opinions will vary. Thats good too. All points of view bring different things to the discussion
Because they state part of the reason they are prohibited is because of the nicotine, PG and "other chemicals" that might possibly be released into the air with the vapor. So if they are concerned about PG, shouldn't that exclude other items containing it as well?
I think it is the "N" word that gets everyones underwear in a bunch.
"When a user draws air through the device, a heating element vaporizes a nicotine-containing propylene glycol solution, and the vapor is inhaled into the lungs. When they are puffed, the vapor is emitted into the atmosphere, which is visually similar to cigarette smoke. There is also the possibility that the exhaled aerosol from an "e-cigarette" could contain nicotine, propylene glycol or other volatile materials"
I dont see this situation as something that the FDA has influenced that much. I see it as pure economics. There are more people who do not vape and use trains than people who vape and use trains.
So if Amtrak allows vaping on trains, it is sure to tick off a large percentage of their paying passagers who are going to complain. You know what it is like to try to explain to people who have no knowledge of e-Cigs what is going on when they see smoke coming out of your mouth.
The entire vaping in public thing is still too new and there are a LOT more people who know nothing about e-Cigs than there are who do.
Remember where you are. You are on a e-Cig forum where most, if not all members have tried or at least have knowledge of e-Cigs. You go out into public and that is a different story.
Yeah, I see that.
I guess I've never understood why trains did away with "smoking cars" though. On a plane I can understand it. Everyone is crammed into a single tin can with nothing but curtains separating the sections. On a train, you have several cars you can move between. Why not allow smoking and/or vaping in at least one of them?
Those were Great Times. Playing cards and drinking in the smoking car!
Trains are cool if your not in a big hurry to get some where on a trip. Commuter trains are not the same. Just subway cars on a longer track.
Maybe on the longer haul trains they have some area on the last car where you can smoke. I don't know in that I haven't been on a train in 15 years.
Trains are cool if your not in a big hurry to get some where on a trip. Commuter trains are not the same. Just subway cars on a longer track.
Maybe on the longer haul trains they have some area on the last car where you can smoke. I don't know in that I haven't been on a train in 15 years.
The trains are entirely non-smoking now, but they let you hop out at whistle stops and smoke by the door. I am traveling from Las Vegas to Harrisburg and smoking or no I love the long-haul train ride. Last year I was doing Snus on the trip so there wasn't a problem there.
uneducated drivel. Propylene glycol is in food. Its also in injectable diazepam. Its also found in hair spray, toothpaste, deodorant, shampoo. And it is used in stage smoke making devices, fog machines as well as smoke creators used to train fire fighters. wow do we need to educate people.
My son can neither smell nor taste what my husband and I are vaping (He thanks goodness in the car that the two of us aren't smoking cigarettes.) Can u really tell me that if he can't smell or taste it that he's inhaling it in the quantity he was getting with cigarettes which he felt like he couldn't even breathe in the car with both of us smoking. Hmmm I'm really confused is my son lying to me?
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