I agree with you on the parent will always refer to a child as "their kid" no matter the age. But I also understand their point by saying if your above the minor age child makes a grown up decision and gets hurt it is ridiculous to say your going to pay the business a visit on their behlaf.
Annoyed with sub-ohm and lack of education.
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I agree with you on the parent will always refer to a child as "their kid" no matter the age. But I also understand their point by saying if your above the minor age child makes a grown up decision and gets hurt it is ridiculous to say your going to pay the business a visit on their behlaf.
But there's a major difference to vaping. If anyone has that bad luck or is just stupid and cuts off his finger, noone outside his family and friends gives a **** about it.
If a VAPER hurts himself because of bad luck or stupidity, the media is allover it.
Yeah, I understand that too. What I don't understand is jumping down someone else's throat just because they used the word "kid" to refer to the "ADULT family member" they helped make 18+ years ago.
I agree, and while I don't have my own children I will always refer to my step children as "my kids". I did not make them but I helped raise them and even if they aren't under my roof will always be "my kids"". If for no other reason than sharing a large part of their upbringing.
I didn't mean for it to be confrontational.Regardless of your Home Depot example (which I happen to agree with, by the way), your assertion that "kid" means someone who is under the age of 18 is utterly ridiculous to those of us who actually have kids.
Hell, I'm now at the age where I even refer to NFL rookies as kids.
I actually understand the "kid" reference. My "kids" are all grown except one (that just thinks he is).
I was making the point that your "kid" was an adult, so "marching down to the store" is kinda silly. Your kid would have the be the one to take legal action.
Before the emotions get ya, remember the kid is an adult. Before marching down to the store, ask the kid what they were thinking in the first place.
I agree education is the key here.
And if you weren't a vaper you wouldn't give a **** about it, but because you are it's a pressing issue.
Nowhere in my post did I even suggest absolving people of personal responsibility. I thought we were having an adult discussion here, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm out.
The media doesn't cover stories of exploding mods anymore; perhaps because they are no longer unusual...
Not really.
A lot of non vapers warned me very often about how unsecure and dangerous ecigs are. I never warned anybody about a tablesaw.
Just 1 or 2 weeks ago French media reported about a 21yo guy who's egic exploded.
You inferred it by saying you would "visit the store".
Sorry but I call BS on that, if you weren't a vaper I highly doubt you would be researching the dangers of ecig batteries in subohm applications and warning others, or for that matter care if the media was reporting on it. Especially if you weren't warning people about the dangers of table saws.
Why would someone who doesn't use or have experience with a said object educate themselves about the dangers of it and make it a personal crusade to warn others and keep it out of the media's eye?
Great, now ECF's vaping Stormtrooper is upset. 
After decades of Star Wars fandom, one thing I've learned is never upset a Stormtrooper.
After decades of Star Wars fandom, one thing I've learned is never upset a Stormtrooper.
Whether we like it or not, some people just don't want to learn.
Twice in one week I tried to caution people here who posted about using 0.1 ohm builds on single battery mechs, and I got called names I didn't even know the definition of.
I also have a friend who has a slew of mechs and hasn't the foggiest idea of Ohm's Law or the Power Law, and refuses to let me teach her. She has no idea of how many amps she's pulling from her batteries. Not much I can do. I've been trying for 10 months.
Twice in one week I tried to caution people here who posted about using 0.1 ohm builds on single battery mechs, and I got called names I didn't even know the definition of.
I also have a friend who has a slew of mechs and hasn't the foggiest idea of Ohm's Law or the Power Law, and refuses to let me teach her. She has no idea of how many amps she's pulling from her batteries. Not much I can do. I've been trying for 10 months.
I thought long and hard about this before I made Steam Engine. If someone harms themselves because of complacency after using an online calculator, that would be bad. But if someone harms themselves because of complacency not even having using a calculator, that wouldn't be any better.
With better and more accessible information, the number of people making mistakes will hopefully be somewhat smaller. It is similar to using a helmet while riding a bicycle: It can make some people feel invincible, causing them to harm themselves. But all in all, the availability of helmets will prevent more harm than it causes. So I decided to make the tools available.
Great, now ECF's vaping Stormtrooper is upset.
After decades of Star Wars fandom, one thing I've learned is never upset a Stormtrooper.
Pffft storm troopers, it's their boss you have to be worried about. He chokes them out for fun.
Sure. Some woman sued Yamaha (I think it was Yamaha) because her 21 year old son bought a 1000cc super bike, didn't know how to ride, no helmet, and killed himself before he made it down their street. Don't you know motorcycles like that shouldn't be for sale? That's what mom said anyway.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to build Steam Engine. I must say the mere act of using your site and playing around with the numbers has taught me an immense amount about Ohm's law, heat flux, battery drain, etc. I'm sure most will agree that the vaping community is much better off with Steam Engine than without it.
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