Another 510 Atomizer Complaint

[sjohnson]

Have you seen this report on the bad Joye attys? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-burnt-taste-all-my-attys-22.html#post1088689

I think it's post #214 by Sun Vaporer. He dissected several and made a definitive conclusion.

Yes, I've been following that thread. But, until a post below both of our originals, the OP did not state there was a bad taste, only poor vapor production. If the atomizers in question are of the bad batch, I certainly don't want any to experiment with, they're hopeless.

But if the problem is a different one, my original offer stands.

 

[GoodDog]

Yes, I've been following that thread. But, until a post below both of our originals, the OP did not state there was a bad taste, only poor vapor production. If the atomizers in question are of the bad batch, I certainly don't want any to experiment with, they're hopeless.

But if the problem is a different one, my original offer stands.

All of mine fall into the "hopeless" category or I would be more than happy to send you some.

Can anyone else send him any with poor vapor?

 

[cyb0rg]

One thing I have noticed from dismantling several attys is that the coil tends to grow an ash inside it. If it weren't for that I think the wash/blow/burn dry (and repeat) method would work a lot better. I think maybe putting some sort of solid ceramic tube inside the actual coil would prevent this ash from building up within the coil, therefore making them last longer especially if you wash yours.

 

[Jackson5]

Inserted under this little metal arch is some sort of fibrous material, I assume it is there to hold the liquid, but I remove these because it contributes to bad taste and besides I have no idea what its made of and I don't want whatever fumes it is burning going into my lungs because almost all these "fibers" I removed were half burnt (you can remove them by gently poking a toothpick under the little metal arch and twisting it around to get the fibers out

Theres an awesome video on you tube that describes exactly what cyborg is describing. Its a well done video that shows how to remove the fibers under the bridge, although it is recommended to remove these prior to your first use of the atty, as once you use it the fiber strands tend to fuse to the bridge.

 

[sjohnson]

The fibers on them are probably not burnt, but the e-liquid they used to wick IS burnt. The fibers are most likely silica rope (which can't burn, though at extreme temperatures higher than we can produce in e-cigs do melt). The burnt e-liquid does make it look like they're burnt, but many experiments have been done subjecting those fibers to a flame that burns off the coating, leaving white, intact, silica fibers behind.

It's the juice, not the wick!

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I will re-post here so Members do not have to hunt down this post and understand what is going on with many of these 510's:


Gooddog has requested that I post my findings based on my experience with 510 atomizers that I purchased from various Suppliers.

I bought ten 510 atomizers (I am not going to name the vendors–and it is not their fault anyway in my opinion, rather it is a manufacture issue). Of these ten, four of them emitted a foul taste as has been reported with so many 510 users. I used straight PG and cut VG to rule out e-liquid and drip smoked to rule out melting polyester batting right out of the box. (I have not used cartridges of any kind and only drip smoke for over a year now anyway).

Using stock 510 batteries, these four atomizers gave off a nasty burnt taste. After disassembly of two of the atomizers, I can preliminarily conclude that the nickel mesh bridge wicking is inferior and is burning instead of just heating.

There are only three components in an atomizer that could be subject to burn: (1) the coil; (2) the fiberglass wick that the coil surrounds; and (3) the nickel mesh bridge.

Upon disassembly of two of the four atomizers, I found the coils to be in tack and the fiberglass wick to have no discoloration. I removed the mesh, as I have done on so many other atomizers to find that the nickel mesh had a tinged blue and grey color and a slight burnt smell that also crumpled in upon manipulation. The mesh in most atomizers has no smell or discoloration and does not fall apart or crumple like this mesh.

With another of the four atomizers, I removed the nickel mesh bridge and drip smoked the atomizer with the coil in tact only to still have this foul taste. The taste would not dissipate even with removal of the visible wicking bridge. I can conclude that this removal of the bridge did not work simply because the metal wicking also goes under and around the visible part of the coil and can only be removed when the entire atomizer is disassembled.

I then disassembled one of the atomizers that did not emit any foul taste of the ten that I purchased only to find that there was no discoloration, smell, or crumpling of the nickel metal wicking material.


Bottom line---- four of the ten 510 atomizers that I purchased, employ an inferior mesh wicking bridge that burns and emits a foul taste, and that no cleaning of any kind can be done to abrogate the problem. This issue has absolutely nothing to do with user error as this metal wicking bridge is not suppose to burn or emit such a taste and needs to be rectified at the manufactures level.

As a Consumer, I can not say how wide spread the issue is, but I can say that I get reports of it every day.
　
Sun

 

[WitchWay]

Has there been any reports of this with the 510 mega attys? I have had the same experience with 3 of the 510 mega attys where they are fine for a short time then suddenly start tasting hot and burnt. Even makes my throat sore when it happens. I stopped using them because I was not sure what was happening.

 

[gl00pp]

I am too new to post a thread so I will try here.

I have noticed some differences between 510s that I have. The batts and the attys.
I have a couple 510 attys that have a white rubberish looking ring on the inside of the male threads, the batts that came have a little dimple in the battery. I also have like a bunch of attys that have a plastic ring and batts that have no dimple.

I the attys look all the same but I get a MUCH better TH and vapor from the attys with white rubber.....

any ideas..

cam

 

[BobW]

The fibers on them are probably not burnt, but the e-liquid they used to wick IS burnt. The fibers are most likely silica rope (which can't burn, though at extreme temperatures higher than we can produce in e-cigs do melt). The burnt e-liquid does make it look like they're burnt, but many experiments have been done subjecting those fibers to a flame that burns off the coating, leaving white, intact, silica fibers behind.

It's the juice, not the wick!

Yup, i have taken the wick material that was brown and crusty and put a lighter flame to it. The wick smoked them started glowing red hot. After cool down it was pure white and clean as a whistle.

 

[cyb0rg]

I ordered ten titanium colored attys and haven't had a foul taste with any of them. I only had problems with the black ones. Maybe I just got lucky and got a good batch. I think one of the problems is that suppliers are getting too many orders and are sacrificing quality for quantity (I keep seeing threads with vendors apologizing to customers because their suppliers keep sending the orders late).

Smells like a business opportunity to me