1. I don't beleive that was a true Joye Ego battery
2. Look at the charger he was using, it's the same type that lady was using.
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2. Look at the charger he was using, it's the same type that lady was using.
The reporter in the article stated that "The FDA will come out with rules in October … to do with ‘nicotine’!"
Does anyone know exactly what 'rules' he is referring that will 'come out in October'?
I have 3 years supply of 100 ng nic and a mech with SS cable rope,im good for a while.
What bothers me most about this report was that it said an electronic cigarette exploded. No it didn't. A battery exploded. This battery just happened to be used for an e-cig.
I wonder if we should be concerned about the UPS's we use on our computers? The battery in the UPS that lays at my feet popped the other day. Of coarse nobody was hurt, but in a sarcastic sort of way, maybe the people using e-cig batteries exploding as an argument should also be concerned about the UPS's and blame the manufacturers of the battery backups for this being a detriment to society.
Of course it wasn't a Joyetech battery it was from a company called e-hit. Not that Joyetech batteries are much better both contain small LiPo batteries which has the potential for combustion if something goes wrong. All eGo style batteries have this flaw but then again so do alot of other things around the house. The only reason this is getting all this attention is because it's an e-cig.
Nah, UPS batteries (gel cells) are pretty safe/harmless. What people ignore, is how often you have to change them. Professionals refuse to use the same battery for more than one year, even if they have a two year warranty. Most die at the 5 year mark, but a few well treated will last more than 7 years (very rare).
Nanocrystalline indium tin oxide (gel cells) don't react the way it did for that lady, that was most most definitely a lithium polymer battery. Alot of Chinese batteries are fabricated this way to save costs.
Oh yeah. I haven't seen a Li-Po fire in person, just in video. They're impressive.
Oh, here's a good one...
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Love that clip. Especially the guy trying to blow it out with his mouth.
Are you guys serious about ego batteries containing lipos? Anything to back this up? One of those claims I don't believe until I see some evidence. I mean no disrespect... Just got me wondering.
Are you guys serious about ego batteries containing lipos? Anything to back this up? One of those claims I don't believe until I see some evidence. I mean no disrespect... Just got me wondering.
No, eGo batteries (along with most all PVs out there) are Li-Ion. If there are any Li-Po PVs out there, they'd be mods...
Ya but. That's Alibaba. A place rife with mislabels. And there's been some confusion over the term "Li-Po". I read that some folks confuse LiFePO4 with Li-Po (ya know, the "PO" in there). Lithium ion phosphate is considered to be a safer version of Li-Ion:
Lithium iron phosphate battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And, poking around, I find this:
E-Cigarettes / Li-Polymer / Li-Po Cylindrical Battery - China E-Cigarettes Battery, Li-Polymer Battery
Which says:
So... do they mean LiFePO4 or actual lithium polymer? Or are they confusing lithium phosphate with lithium polymer?
Li-po is picking up in consumer applications (I think the iPad/iPhone/iWhatever uses them). Maybe they are showing up in "e-cigs". Strikes me, at least, as a bit on the irresponsible side. Lithium phosphate sounds safer.
(Edit: I dunno. Hard to say because of the language barrier. Had a similar problem when a vendor I deal with tried to talk to somebody at Joyetech. US/Chinese trade is moving faster than people are learning each others languages and things sometimes get... weird?)
Anyone can have this issue if they use unreliable branded or even unbranded batteries.
Actually, even reliable brand batteries can have issues if you're used to make them overheat, as the protection can gradually get more and more damaged.
But in case of ego batteries, you can't even spot imperfections on the surface...
Actually, even reliable brand batteries can have issues if you're used to make them overheat, as the protection can gradually get more and more damaged.
But in case of ego batteries, you can't even spot imperfections on the surface...
No amount of external protection will stop a crap battery from having an internal malfunction or stop a crap charger from damaging a good battery.
Fact one people don't take the time to read up on things before they buy them throughly enough. I am guilty of this too.
Fact two people think something that's half the cost of the name brand is just as good when in reality when it comes to things that may go boom, you might want to go with the more professional make rather than the one that cuts cost as much as possible to make a cheaper copy. This goes for chargers too.
Fact three people tend to ignore safety recommendations because they get lazy or carless about them, or just think they are somehow immune to them.
Add these things together and you get the occasional accident like this add that to the actual 1 in a million defective device that's just nobodies fault, divide by the millions of people using said devices and you will get cases like the OP stated. Then the media runs with it because scare tactics make easy news and suddenly e-cigs are going to rocket off and kill us all.
It also does not help that most news is no longer about reporting facts. They do not look into if the device was being used in the proper way or was using a generic charger. They just want to get hits on a site or views on the TV. Yay for "journalism".
Fact two people think something that's half the cost of the name brand is just as good when in reality when it comes to things that may go boom, you might want to go with the more professional make rather than the one that cuts cost as much as possible to make a cheaper copy. This goes for chargers too.
Fact three people tend to ignore safety recommendations because they get lazy or carless about them, or just think they are somehow immune to them.
Add these things together and you get the occasional accident like this add that to the actual 1 in a million defective device that's just nobodies fault, divide by the millions of people using said devices and you will get cases like the OP stated. Then the media runs with it because scare tactics make easy news and suddenly e-cigs are going to rocket off and kill us all.
It also does not help that most news is no longer about reporting facts. They do not look into if the device was being used in the proper way or was using a generic charger. They just want to get hits on a site or views on the TV. Yay for "journalism".
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