Kristin I think you scared em. Yours was the last comment YESTERDAY! Maybe their busy finally doing research instead of blindly reiterating falsehoods.
Another Doctor Buys In
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According to the FDA,
"Prescription-only nicotine replacement products are available only under the brand name Nicotrol and are available both as a nasal spray and an oral inhaler."
FDA 101: Smoking Cessation Products
Yet, Dr. Gupta warns (video and blog) that the health effects of inhaling nicotine have never been determined. So, good enough (analysis) for Nicotrol, but not enough for E Cigarettes?
From his Blog,
"Another argument for safety by e-cigarette manufacturers is that they contain nicotine, but none of the other harmful additives in cigarettes. Nicotine on its own is highly addictive and we do not know yet the the health effects of inhaling pure nicotine, nor do we know what could happen if those toxic substances the FDA found could harm folks in close proximity to the 'e-smoker.'"
Note the use of "pure nicotine" in his warning. Let's see, that would be 1,010mg/ml e-liquid!
"Prescription-only nicotine replacement products are available only under the brand name Nicotrol and are available both as a nasal spray and an oral inhaler."
FDA 101: Smoking Cessation Products
Yet, Dr. Gupta warns (video and blog) that the health effects of inhaling nicotine have never been determined. So, good enough (analysis) for Nicotrol, but not enough for E Cigarettes?
From his Blog,
"Another argument for safety by e-cigarette manufacturers is that they contain nicotine, but none of the other harmful additives in cigarettes. Nicotine on its own is highly addictive and we do not know yet the the health effects of inhaling pure nicotine, nor do we know what could happen if those toxic substances the FDA found could harm folks in close proximity to the 'e-smoker.'"
Note the use of "pure nicotine" in his warning. Let's see, that would be 1,010mg/ml e-liquid!
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Well my doctor has said in no uncertain terms that my lungs are sounding better and better since I've stopped smoking. He has even gone so far as accepting business cards from the supplier that I got my 510 from in order to give them to his other patients who have had a difficult time quitting.
I won't mention his name out of respect for his privacy, but I am due for an appointment soon ,and I plan on talking to him about joining casaa.
smoker of 35 years, diagnosed with c.o.p.d. emphysema, asthma and hasn't had a single wheeze or smoking related cough in months.
That is outstanding, and 2 thumbs up for your doctor! It's a shame that results like yours aren't making the headlines.
So true, Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope someday vaping will be the norm. Of course there will always be somebody complaining about something.
I just got home from my routine check-up with my family doctor and during the exam I mentioned that I had almost quit smoking cigarettes. He asked me how many I smoked and how many I was still smoking. I replied that I was up to 2 packs a day and during the first week I dropped that to 10 per day, a 75% reduction with no cravings. I told him that I had just ended the 2nd week and was down to 5 a day, still with no withdrawal symptoms and explained that my lungs were clearer than they have been since I was a teenager, which he confirmed by listening to my heart and lungs with a stethoscope.
He asked me how I had quit and I explained E-cigs. He had heard of them, but had not seen one. I showed mine to him and explained how it worked, that it used PG or VG as a vapor producer and carrier of the nicotine. I explained how the vapor was produced and that the PG was used in asthma inhalers, intravenous drugs, and mentioned several foods that contained PG and that it was GRAS (generally regarded as safe) by the FDA. I told him where he could get more info from Google and mentioned that I was using 24mg liquid and planned to titrate down to 18mg then 12mg and eventually 0mg nicotine over time.
He was impressed and agreed that a carrier used in asthma inhalers shouldn't be dangerous when used as a nicotine carrier and applauded me for quitting and said that he thought that the E-cig idea was a good one. He did encourage me to taper down the nicotine gradually and get to the 0 level because of the blood pressure benefits.
I asked him if he would like a demonstration and he said yes. I puffed a few times and blew a stream of RY4 into the examining room! His eyes got a little wider and I asked him if he smelled tobacco smoke. He said, "No, in fact I don't really smell anything from that. It's surprising, considering the smoke you blew out!" I explained that it was not smoke, but PG vapor, much like the theatrical stage fog that has been used for over 40 years.
The bottom line was that he now has had a good demonstration and I think that he will research E-cigs and is likely to mention them as an option for patients looking for a reliable quit method.
He asked me how I had quit and I explained E-cigs. He had heard of them, but had not seen one. I showed mine to him and explained how it worked, that it used PG or VG as a vapor producer and carrier of the nicotine. I explained how the vapor was produced and that the PG was used in asthma inhalers, intravenous drugs, and mentioned several foods that contained PG and that it was GRAS (generally regarded as safe) by the FDA. I told him where he could get more info from Google and mentioned that I was using 24mg liquid and planned to titrate down to 18mg then 12mg and eventually 0mg nicotine over time.
He was impressed and agreed that a carrier used in asthma inhalers shouldn't be dangerous when used as a nicotine carrier and applauded me for quitting and said that he thought that the E-cig idea was a good one. He did encourage me to taper down the nicotine gradually and get to the 0 level because of the blood pressure benefits.
I asked him if he would like a demonstration and he said yes. I puffed a few times and blew a stream of RY4 into the examining room! His eyes got a little wider and I asked him if he smelled tobacco smoke. He said, "No, in fact I don't really smell anything from that. It's surprising, considering the smoke you blew out!" I explained that it was not smoke, but PG vapor, much like the theatrical stage fog that has been used for over 40 years.
The bottom line was that he now has had a good demonstration and I think that he will research E-cigs and is likely to mention them as an option for patients looking for a reliable quit method.
DaveP
In addition to the excellent efforts of Tobacco Harm Reduction organizations and individual E Cigarette advocates, educating one's personal physician may be how the war will be won; one doctor at a time.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
In addition to the excellent efforts of Tobacco Harm Reduction organizations and individual E Cigarette advocates, educating one's personal physician may be how the war will be won; one doctor at a time.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
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Hey! We made the Tobacco Harm Reduction blog!
Dr. Sanjay Gupta Stands Corrected on E-Cigs Tobacco Harm Reduction: News & Opinions
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Dr. Sanjay Gupta Stands Corrected on E-Cigs Tobacco Harm Reduction: News & Opinions
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Hey! We made the Tobacco Harm Reduction blog!
Dr. Sanjay Gupta Stands Corrected on E-Cigs Tobacco Harm Reduction: News & Opinions
Great, thanks for the link and for your unwavering perseverance as an E Cigarette advocate!
Seen my doc today, and again was amazed at how clear my lungs sound. He promised that he was going to look up casaa and told me that he had actually given out the cards for the e-smoke store I had given him, to patients that thought would benefit from the e-smoke. yay!! that's at least three more vapers on our side.
Dave P, what a fantastic approach you used with your doctor! Showing him the benefits first, then introducing the device to answer the "how" question was perfect! I think others might have more luck convincing others if they used this approach!
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