Another Glycerine question...

[Loogie]

I just bought some Wilton Glycerine from Michael's in the cake section (where everyone seems to find it), but nowhere does it say USP. it certainly doesn't say anything about not ingesting it, and it says it's made to restore cake icing consistency...which makes me believe it's fine, but I'm overthinking and need to be assured.


oh yeah, I guess the question would be; is this ok to use, and/or does anyone else use this specific one?

 

[V-V]

What manufacturer? Usually you can go to their website and get more specific information on it.

 

[Loogie]

Wilton...and it doesn't specify on their site.

 

[Ramblin]

Try it. Many people have used the same without any problems. Just me and a few others have had problems with the HUMCO Walmart glycerin.

 

[Chevron07]

I picked some up yesterday and was wondering the exact same thing. I had seen Wilton at Micheal's mentioned a few time here, so on a whim I stopped on the way home from work. As soon as I start looking for more info mixing tips, I start seeing all of this USP stuff. Wilton's doesn't state anything.

 

[V-V]

The Humco brand (which I have) doesn't say if it's VG or PG, and it doesn't state what the other .5% is. Nor does it say on their website.

Not very helpful labeling I'm afraid.

I haven't had any problems with it, but I also haven't used much.

 

[Loogie]

I'm sure it's fine, I just over analyze everything. I mean, it is used for cake frosting. it's also the only one listed on their site. I'm just gonna make some juice and cross my fingers I suppose.

 

[JustPuffin]

Have not used VG and I must say that I am a bit afraid to. I have had a few occasions where my battery would not shut off. What temperature were reached I can't say. But there is a temperature point where VG turns toxic. Also if it doesn't say USP it is most likely food grade.

 

[Ramblin]

About USP–An Overview
Who We Are

The United States Pharmacopeia (USP) is an official public standards–setting authority for all prescription and over–the–counter medicines and other health care products manufactured or sold in the United States. USP also sets widely recognized standards for food ingredients and dietary supplements. USP sets standards for the quality, purity, strength, and consistency of these products–critical to the public health. USP's standards are recognized and used in more than 130 countries around the globe. These standards have helped to ensure public health throughout the world for close to 200 years.

USP is a non-governmental, not-for-profit public health organization whose independent, volunteer experts work under strict conflict–of–interest rules to set its scientific standards. USP's contributions to public health are enriched by the participation and oversight of volunteers representing pharmacy, medicine, and other health care professions as well as academia, government, the pharmaceutical and food industries, health plans, and consumer organizations.

 

[ZambucaLu]

The Humco brand (which I have) doesn't say if it's VG or PG, and it doesn't state what the other .5% is. Nor does it say on their website.

Not very helpful labeling I'm afraid.

I haven't had any problems with it, but I also haven't used much.

V, it's not PG. It's glycerine. The question on that was...is it vegetable glycerine (VG) or animal?

Lu

 

[ZambucaLu]

Also if it doesn't say USP it is most likely food grade.

I would say the Wiltons is food grade...as it is used in baking. But I would not say if it doesn't say USP that it's most likely food grade. There may be other glycerine types out there that do not say USP....that are not food grade.

Lu

 

[V-V]

V, it's not PG. It's glycerine. The question on that was...is it vegetable glycerine (VG) or animal?

Lu

I thought they were all glycerin, just some vegetable, some animal.

The names seem to be interchangeable. Mine says glycerin:Glycerin, Natural 99.5% USP General or Generic ID: Polyol

 

[ZambucaLu]

I thought they were all glycerin, just some vegetable, some animal.

The names seem to be interchangeable. Mine says glycerin:Glycerin, Natural 99.5% USP General or Generic ID: Polyol

PG is propylene glycol....different than glycerine. It's what is in the nic juice. A company or two make it with VG but most manufacturers use the PG.

Lu

 

[V-V]

Right, from propylene alcohol, but also labeled as glycerin. So one is synthetic (PG) and is from vegetable matter (VG).

Both substances, one made from vegetables, one a byproduct of petroleum, are labeled as glycerin.

The HUMCO brand doesn't specify which it is.

Am I straight now?

I believe cigarette companies use PG also, in tobacco.

 

[ZambucaLu]

Right, from propylene alcohol, but also labeled as glycerin. So one is synthetic (PG) and is from vegetable matter (VG).

Both substances, one made from vegetables, one a byproduct of petroleum, are labeled as glycerin.

The HUMCO brand doesn't specify which it is.

Am I straight now?

I believe cigarette companies use PG also, in tobacco.

No. PG is not labeled as glycerine. If you saw a plain bottle of it, it would say propylene glycol...not glycerine. VG (or any type of glycerine) says glycerine. Humco says glycerine. The PG I have does not say it contains glycerine.

This is all explained somewhere here and I think it's on wiki.

Lu

 

[V-V]

Interesting Lu.

I'm going to run and check the chemical makeup real quick.

There are two types of glycerin: natural glycerin derived from oils and fats from such sources as coconuts and oil palms, and synthetic glycerin derived from petroleum.

Glycerin is a hygroscopic trihydroxy alcohol (HOCH2CHOHCH2OH)

Searching the chem database for Glycerin got me:C3H8O3

Polypropylene Glycol: C3H8O2

Other names for glycerin:
Glycerin; Glycerol; Glycerine; Glyceritol; Glycyl alcohol; Glyrol; Glysanin; Osmoglyn; Propanetriol; Trihydroxypropane; Synthetic glycerin; 90 Technical glycerin; Dagralax; Glycerin, anhydrous; Glycerin, synthetic; Ophthalgan; Synthetic glycerine; Vitrosupos; 1,2,3-Trihydroxypropane; 90 Technical glycerine; Clyzerin, wasserfrei; Grocolene; Moon; Star; Superol; Optim; Bulbold; Cristal; Croderol G7000; Dynamite glycerin; Emery 912; Glyceol; Glycerin USP; Glycon G 100, G 300; Incorporation factor, IFP; Lye glycerin; Polyhydric alcohol; Pricerine 9071; Shur-coal FCA; propane-1,2,3-triol

Other names for propylene glycol:
1,2-Propanediol; α-Propylene glycol; Methyl glycol; Methylethyl glycol; Methylethylene glycol; Monopropylene glycol; PG 12; Sirlene; 1,2-Dihydroxypropane; 1,2-Propylene Glycol; 2-Hydroxypropanol; 2,3-Propanediol; Propane-1,2-diol; Dowfrost; Propylene glycol usp; 1,2-Propylenglykol; Solar winter ban; Sentry Propylene Glycol; Isopropylene glycol; Ucar 35; Solargard P; Aliphatic alcohol; Chilisa FE; Ilexan P; Inhibited 1,2-propylene glycol; Prolugen; Propanediol; Trimethyl glycol; 1,2-Propandiol; 1,2-propanediol (propylene glycol); propylene glycol (1,2-propanediol); propylenglycol

tmi - but interesting

 

[ZambucaLu]

Yeh, it is interesting. You'll also see that poylpropylene glycol is different than PG as well.

Lu