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In hopes of adding to existing Kroma threads, they all seem to be closed. And often times when folks ask about a good beginner setup the Kroma is reccomended.

While in a shop one evening one of their samplers was an 'i-taste'. I supposed pre-Kroma. I asked the proprietor if they sell Kromas. He scoffed and said "NO". I passed on all the yee-ha gear he tried to pursuade me into and bought a YiHi SL Class. I get why a vape 'salon' would not want to push the Kroma, same as a Mercedes dealer doesn't push a Hyundai. The shop is a place where the proprietor wears a suave uniform as sells gear for those with cultivated expectations.

I already owned 2 Kroma kits with Zenith tanks. I liked the first one enough to buy a second one. I own several mods and only the Kroma has a repeat. And to be honest it is my favorite box.

So my question would be "what's so bad about a Kroma?" I wondered why that fellow scoffed at it.
Do veterans still use them?
Is it lack of features that cause some folks to avoid them? No clock, no color screen, no bluetooth, etc.

I understand why some prefer a changeable battery. X number of charges later and you have a paperweight. But in my case a charge only happens once a week. If it takes 300 charges that means it will be years down the road before my 'classic' mod is out of the rotation.

For low watt users it's a got pretty basic, works everytime setup. Instant fire that asks everytime you remove the tank and put it (or another) on it "is this the same atty?". I like that.

3 clicks for on/off means by the 4th click there is no requirement to stay in rythm. I cannot tell you how many times I have to repeat the 5 click setup before I get a tastey drag. Some say the play in the buttons is an issue. My Sandstorm has play too.

I'm just curious how many others have been using a Kroma or i-taste over a period of time. If they did and set it aside, what was the reason?

To me, the Kroma is a pretty solid getup of easy to understand usefulness for basic mouth to lung vaping. And being one who still haven't gotten the hang of the DVR thing I find it refreshing that somebody out there thought of dinossaurs like me.

I hope this thread will stir up some conversation from the good and the not-so-good points of the Innokin Kroma.
 

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The krona kit does not have the best mod in it. It’s a LiPo mod for one. Doesn’t hold a lot of power, only chargeable via usb. What’s good about the krona is the zenith atty: flavorful,easy to deal with, long lasting MTL coils. If you have to point someone at a kit the good outweighs the bad. Now a yihi with a krona atty on it is a GREAT kit. The yihi is a much better mod than the krona
Yihi stuff is actually really good he didn’t steer you wrong.
 

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While I don't disagree with the points @bombastinator made, I still think the "kit" with the Zenith tank is a winner for beginner vapers. It's affordable, looks great, has a comfortable ergonomic form factor, is pocket friendly, and although I've never vaped with one I imagine the setup performs well. Add the fact that Innokin has a long reputation of making quality products.

The only downside I see with the Kroma is the 2000 mAh battery may or may not last an entire day. I'm more of a fan of external battery mods, but I "get it" that many beginners to vaping are intimidated by external batteries. So for these reasons I frequently recommend this kit to beginners.

 
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While I don't disagree with the points @bombastinator made, I still think the "kit" with the Zenith tank is a winner for beginner vapers. It's affordable, looks great, has a comfortable ergonomic form factor, is pocket friendly, and although I've never vaped with one I imagine the setup performs well. Add the fact that Innokin has a long reputation of making quality products.

The only downside I see with the Kroma is the 2000 mAh battery may or may not last an entire day. I'm more of a fan of external battery mods, but I "get it" that many beginners to vaping are intimidated by external batteries. So for these reasons I frequently recommend this kit to beginners.


I also don’t disagree with @Baditude . I’m not saying it’s particularly bad. Just maybe not the best.
 

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I passed on all the yee-ha gear he tried to pursuade me into

Love this phrase! Consider it stolen! That's my problem. I look at anything relatively new and all I see is yee-ha.:lol:
I keep seeing the Kroma kit being pushed in the forum but mostly all about the tank. Never paid much attention to the mod or tank cuz I just don't need either. But you made me curious so looked it up. Yeah I could easily like that mod if I had use for it.
As for the 'conventional wisdom' about the mod becoming a paperweight when the battery dies. I seriously wonder if even 20% of internal battery mods actually outlast thier batteries? More likely to succumb to one too many drops or leaky tanks drowning the chip. Or the worse thing imaginable (and most likely) the owner will fall in love with some new yee-ha and toss old faithful in a drawer to be forgotten forever.
 

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I just joined today, so please forgive any missteps.

I bought the Kroma/zenith kit just last week, after reading the Zenith MTL tank thread. There were good points and bad points, but I did the bullet and ordered it.

So far, I love it. There is one thing that has caused me problems though. The fire button and the up down buttons are lined up vertically. I have twice now, without realizing it, increased the watts inadvertently by gripping it too tight or too long or something, and my next drag was horribly burnt. I would look down at the screen after and see it was up to 45 watts or it had switched to temperature control mode. Both instances culminated in horrible tasting drags.

I guess I just need to learn to hold this better so this doesn't happen. That is my experience so far with it.

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To raise the watts requires the plus button to be held 3 seconds, otherwise it is locked at the setting you left it at.
Same goes for turning it down. Or holding the + and - too tight can activate the unlock.

I just noticed my pointer finger rests on the fire button and the middle and ring finger rest over or near the +/- buttons.

Hmmmmm.... Maybe my sausage fingers are too fat to push them but I see what you mean.

Welcome aboard finally54. And welcome to the world of vaping. No mis-steps at all. Good comments.

It goes to TC mode if holding the fire and + button a few seconds. I keep mine set at 300 (or less) in case I accidently activate that feature.
 
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Well -- I am far from a beginning vaper and have no back off on charging my own batteries, but I do enjoy my Kroma, and not just for the tank. I like the convenience of USB charging ability -- and with the prices these days it's no issue for me to use some self contained battery devices.

In fact my favorite one for 2018 is a CB60 -- wattage only and also marketed to newbies. Zenith is probably 2nd -- but it's bigger. ;)

To me the Zenith looks good and is comfy to hold. The texture on one side is kinda nice and certainly not slippery and not cold like metal can be. The colorful tank looks good on some of my other mods and the black Zenith looks great on any color Kroma. It's fun to have a painted tank that isn't black or white. Trivial, I know. :laugh:

It also seems to perform just about like most moderately priced mods -- a far cry from some of the early vv/vw devices! However, since I only use wattage mode, I have no clue on how it does with temperature conrtol.

I do think there has been some glitches with the Kroma mod, but I have no specifics. It has not been marketed as the greatest mod....and I recall a kinda "meh" from the 'bro's about it and working on making it or the next one better? Perhaps since temp control with various wires is "the thing" for some, that is the issue?

The only "problem" I've had after a few months of fairly regular use is the wattage jumped to max seemingly on it's own -- but I can't be sure it wasn't user error as it might have occurred while in pocket or purse. :wub:
 

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This seems like a good place to ask a Kroma-A question. I don't even have one yet--it arrives Tuesday--but I've been worrying about the wisdom of using the "vape while charging" feature. One of the reasons I decided to settle for an internal battery mod was that I figured I'd could just plug the thing in and still vape away (it will be my first mod; all I have now is the Halo G6). But then I started reading here and there that vaping while charging is a great way to shorten the life of one's battery and I began to kick myself for not taking the plunge with a replaceable battery mod. Am I right to be experiencing this buyer's regret? Will I have to resign myself to dooming my battery to a premature death? Or, perhaps worse, falling back on the G6 while the Kroma charges? A third option, of course, is to get an additional mod right away, but I have this horrible feeling that if I get a replaceable battery mod, I won't bother to use the Kroma-A at all, which offend my thrifty nature (although, come to think of it, if I buy another mod, I can stick the Zenith on it, so at least the waste factor wouldn't be quite as depressing).

I am fretting.
 

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    This seems like a good place to ask a Kroma-A question. I don't even have one yet--it arrives Tuesday--but I've been worrying about the wisdom of using the "vape while charging" feature. One of the reasons I decided to settle for an internal battery mod was that I figured I'd could just plug the thing in and still vape away (it will be my first mod; all I have now is the Halo G6). But then I started reading here and there that vaping while charging is a great way to shorten the life of one's battery and I began to kick myself for not taking the plunge with a replaceable battery mod. Am I right to be experiencing this buyer's regret? Will I have to resign myself to dooming my battery to a premature death? Or, perhaps worse, falling back on the G6 while the Kroma charges? A third option, of course, is to get an additional mod right away, but I have this horrible feeling that if I get a replaceable battery mod, I won't bother to use the Kroma-A at all, which offend my thrifty nature (although, come to think of it, if I buy another mod, I can stick the Zenith on it, so at least the waste factor wouldn't be quite as depressing).

    I am fretting.
    Never heard of pass thru vaping shortening battery life. I don't know about the Kroma's setup tho. I do that all the time and have for yrs.
     
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    Well, that makes me feel better. I've been kicking myself for being too lazy/nervous to commit to a replaceable battery, mainly because it meant buying separately a mod, a tank, batteries, and a charger, with all the attendant research and price comparing. Settling for this kit seemed so much easier till I started to worry about the vaping-while-charging business.
     
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    I've never heard that using a mod's passthru shortens its battery life. While using passthru, the battery isn't being charged while you press the fire button to vape, but it will continue to charge again once you let up on the button.

    I've never needed to use passthru myself, although I have had a couple of mods which had that function. I've always had a backup mod to use while the battery was being charged.
     
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    I have external battery mods as well as a few internal battery mods.
    The mod I use the most is a white Kroma. It isnt the most expensive and doesnt have the most features, I dont think its the best looking mod either. Its just comfortable to handle, easy to use, fits in my pockets(after 3 clicks to turn it off ;) ) and the charge is enough to last me all day with the ohms and watts I use.
     

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    I am a so-called vaping "veteran" and even I am considering getting the Kroma-A kit as I want to simplify my vaping..... Most folks here have fun making coils and view it as some sort of a hobby.... But I started getting sick of building coils as well as making my own juice. Sure I save boat loads of money but I also am getting sick of it....I want something I can throw juice into, hit the fire button and vape..... In my case, I was in Electronics many years ago and got sick of fiddling with various types of coils and so I find no thrill in messing with them nowadays...

    The Kroma - Zenith is definitely a very good kit (especially for it's low price) ..... 75 Watts is plenty enough power to chuck any type of large cloud that you desire....simply get a sub-ohm tank and put it on the mod should you ever decide you want to start producing lots of vapor..... The Zenith MTL tank is quite good for tootle-puffing and produces an incredible amount of vapor for a MTL tank..... A person can also purchase the superior Plexus coils for the zenith tank. If a person wants to simplify their vaping (like I do) then you can't go wrong with the Kroma-A-Zenith combo....

    I have always been against internal battery mods because they become useless once the internal battery exhausts it's life..... But I am also getting sick of messing with external batteries and chargers. So, I am going to be going with a Kroma kit one of these days very soon.
     

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    But after that day of vaping you need to charge, and you're not supposed to charge overnight, so you need something to fill the gap. Hence the Pico 25.
    I have a lot of mods and tanks. No problem. A black kroma and zenith is my 2nd go to device. 3rd go to is a black and silver pico 25. :)
    In fact with these sorts of batteries you dont have to run them right down and then recharge. You can recharge them when ever you want. Driving, sitting on the couch with the computer, in the workshop.
     

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    Well, then, we can compare notes. From opposite ends of the vaping spectrum.

    I wish there were a Zenith coil that supported TC vaping. I'm intrigued by it.

    Well you will have the device to do TC with as that Kroma will work fairly well with TC.... In the future you can always get a different tank that will allow TC.... But I think you will be amazed with the stock coils.
     
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