Snow in June, it's been a long time since I heard of that. <joking> It just read funny at this time of year.
Another NY gem of legislation being proposed
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This legislation is more about protecting small children from being serially incarcerated inside a small sealed box perpetually filled with thick toxic fumes, like my parents used to do to me and my little brother on long car trips back when they were both smoking. It's funny how addiction creates blind spots that trump all logic isn't it? I mean, surely they would not have done that to me under any other circumstances.
The trouble is there are always going to be people who will continue to justify this crime of abuse under the rubric of "personal liberty". Well, that's what the law is for - to protect the innocent from the wilful ignorance of the selfish. Those people are so focussed on what they want that they tend to forget: one person's rights end where another person's rights begin. I don't want a nanny state either, but I do understand the need for laws.
Got to admit though, I didn't see the error of my own ways until I discovered e-cigarettes and quit lighting up. So I can hardly hold myself up as a paragon of self-discipline.
The trouble is there are always going to be people who will continue to justify this crime of abuse under the rubric of "personal liberty". Well, that's what the law is for - to protect the innocent from the wilful ignorance of the selfish. Those people are so focussed on what they want that they tend to forget: one person's rights end where another person's rights begin. I don't want a nanny state either, but I do understand the need for laws.
Got to admit though, I didn't see the error of my own ways until I discovered e-cigarettes and quit lighting up. So I can hardly hold myself up as a paragon of self-discipline.
Hold the presses, throw out those toxic candles, cement up those indoor fireplaces. Poppycock, we of a senior position, lived with second hand smoke everywhere. Although neither of my parents smoked, just about everywhere we went had smokers in their cars, homes, stores, et al. Almost all of us should have dropped over dead by now from smoking related diseases brought on by the 50s and 60s (I'll ignore the late 40's when I was too young to think about it). I never liked the smell myself until I became a smoker and now that I'm not a smoker I still like the smell, unless too dense.
I can buy not smoking inside an enclosed car, kids or no kids. I rarely smoked there unless I was riding with the windows open. However, just riding in a car with diesel fumes and all the carcinogens emanating from highway travel make it just a logical to ban children in cars. If they can legislate away personal liberty for smoking, they can just as easily legislate away the personal liberties of what you can feed your children in the name of protecting the children- no fast food, trans fats, caffeine and such.
I'd even be more agreeable on the subject if the science wasn't generated by a bunch of prohibitionists but, regrettably, you start to doubt everything you read and hear. Didn't the Surgeon General say the smoke from one cigarette can kill you? Poppycock.
So... if you need a bath, and you have every right not to bathe... and im about to vomit due to your stench... i mean physically ill... where my rights?
So... if your kids pitching a fit crying and won't shut up while im in the middle of a movie I just spent $18 on... you have every right to bring your child... but your brat just ruined MY movie... wheres my rights?
I understand your argument, but your argument is flawed. Toxic candles, indoor fireplaces... incense, wood burning stoves... charcoal grilling, gasoline exhaust! (product of combustion)... camp fires, matches... ever think about the trillions of tons of burnt coal being pumped out into the air every single day so when you flip that little switch the light bulb lights up? I can't make a lil smoke puffin a cig where I see fit, but they are free to make a chit ton of it 24-7. HA! That’s some hypocrisy for ya.
rothenbj has it right, if they can legislate away personal liberty for smoking, they can just as easily legislate away the personal liberties of what you can feed your children in the name of protecting the children- no fast food, trans fats, caffeine and such. it doesn't stop there, just look at Obummercare... and just like that you HAVE to purchase something by law. Period. It doesn't stop there. Want to get past this point, bend over as we proceed with our enhanced pat down w/ government sanctioned .... probe. Studies show children do best when given a good night sleep, how about government mandated bed times for all Americans – for the children of course. If you are caught up watching TV past 10 it is illegal and you will go to jail for years you evil criminal you.
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Someone's opinion (Not mine. Just something else to think about.):
"There should be mandatory birth control for everyone (yes, EVERYONE) until they can apply for a permit to have a child. You should have to take a test to prove you are intelligent enough to have children, pass a background check to prove that you can be responcible enough to have children, and pass a financial test to prove that you have the means to take care of children. Frankly, most people shouldn't be allowed within 50 feet of a child much less be the one in charge of raising it."
"There should be mandatory birth control for everyone (yes, EVERYONE) until they can apply for a permit to have a child. You should have to take a test to prove you are intelligent enough to have children, pass a background check to prove that you can be responcible enough to have children, and pass a financial test to prove that you have the means to take care of children. Frankly, most people shouldn't be allowed within 50 feet of a child much less be the one in charge of raising it."
I am really starting to chafe under all of this 'For your own good' legislation. I *DONT* agree with forcing anyone to inhale secondhand smoke, but where and when will the line be drawn? Im not going to go on a personal freedoms rant, because this is neither the time nor the place. I do worry that vaping is going to be included with this ban, and quite frankly:I am NOT okay with it.
I've often questioned why they haven’t implemented this sooner truthfully. If you need a license to fish, drive, cut hair, hunt, do business, etc, etc, etc, etc… Makes sense. Only people who I think would argue the point are the ones who shouldn’t be having the children in the first place. Any responsible adult wanting children they would love adore and care for would go through any hoops – look at what couples go through to adopt when they cannot have children of their own!
Confirmed with attorney friend...
If my first thought is, "There ought to be a law..."
Then my second thought should be, "Am I just being a coward right now?"
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He knows I love him, but not his profession as a whole. I'm glad he's in there being one of the "good guys." He also knows my personal opinion of the profession:
lawyer = sanitation worker (picking up other people's trash )
If my first thought is, "There ought to be a law..."
Then my second thought should be, "Am I just being a coward right now?"
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He knows I love him, but not his profession as a whole. I'm glad he's in there being one of the "good guys." He also knows my personal opinion of the profession:
lawyer = sanitation worker (picking up other people's trash )
Your argument would hold up if the establishment had not indoctrinated ppl, in the name of money, over the past 100 years that smoking was a seriously cool and safe thing to be associated with. Smokers are the ones who have been wronged, as well as those that are impacted by the safety issues attached to smoking.
Both my parents were smokers, I don't hold it against them at all.
Those who are supposed to be "protecting our health" have spent decades that they knew the truth that smokeless tobacco was much, much less harmful than smoking. They not only ignored that evidence but have been on a campaign to make those products appear to be as bad if not worse than smoking.
You can aim at smokers as being the problem, but those that knew better have done very little to eradicate the problem and that is indefensible. Nicotine may be addicting to some extent, but the intoxication of tobacco money has consumed the government and those that appear to be concerned about the public.
You can aim at smokers as being the problem, but those that knew better have done very little to eradicate the problem and that is indefensible. Nicotine may be addicting to some extent, but the intoxication of tobacco money has consumed the government and those that appear to be concerned about the public.
Actually made me go, "Ooooooo, that's gooood!"
Consider this phrase stolen and forwarded, and so on, and so on, and so on...
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