Problem is most people don't want to know the details, they just want a bogeyman (or boogeyman) to blame. Keep it simple, I just want a simple story, vaping is bad right?
p.s. I personally despise conspiracy theories, but sadly until or if vaping raises the kind of tax dollars smoking does, I have to also think, the legit vaping industry is a free and easy whipping boy among politicians who will say anything to get more votes. It doesn't raise enough $ or benefit them enough to get behind it.
BS!And now your politicians have played the same magic trick, blame the media, look at my right hand so you don't see what the left hand is doing. Unfortunately it is the left hand that is about to ban vaping. Wake up! The media is not able to make laws, be angry at the media because that was the scarecrow, because it's the left hand than can and will ban vaping for votes. The evil media has no ability to adjust law, but keep looking at the media. Played. For all that talk about less government interference, they sure will interfere (republicans especially, sinner vapers), people who vape are sinners, though if you pay enough like BT, then it's all good. Wake up!
Donnie will literally say whatever gets him more votes and the 'Melania had a son' and tweeted story is what prompted this next round of votes.
Iirc (which I apparently do less than I thought) it’s an anti-anxietyThank goodness that nicotine is the only mood stabilizer I need.![]()
Obviously you do want someone to tell you every move to make. The demonrat socialist party will be happy to lead you sheeple to the slaughter house.Well two or three problems with this -
1.) No matter what politicians say, if there was no media, whatever they say would never get distributed so they need the media.
2.) If the politicians say nonsense, as they do, blame them... blaming the media is a easy pass they don't deserve.
3.) maybe you want a state run media, only positive donnie news but..
but before it gets moved or deleted...
I am not a donnie sychophant. he isn't paying me, i don't work for him and I don't want an authority daddy figure to run my life, so sorry if I triggered your donnie is god issues.
The converse of this statement is you therefore think what you do and think is both your own thought and perfect and without flaw. That’s it’s own kind of crazy.Obviously you do want someone to tell you every move to make. The demonrat socialist party will be happy to lead you sheeple to the slaughter house.
The converse is that he (and many others) doesn't know what "socialism" means. (it's an economic system with no private ownership of businesses/capital/means of production). Often confused by the uneducated masses with "social programs"...like the military, fire, police, education, or potentially healthcare. etc. They both have "s-words" in them. So confusing.I don’t think that word actually means what you think it does.
The converse is that he (and many others) doesn't know what "socialism" means. (it's an economic system with no private ownership of businesses/capital/means of production). Often confused by the uneducated masses with "social programs"...like the military, fire, police, education, or potentially healthcare. etc. They both have "s-words" in them. So confusing.
If he had said "capitalist welfare state" maybe he'd be closer.
But I digress. This is why talking to the extreme right is frustrating in a completely different way than talking to the extreme left (the real socialist party, not the dems) which is often frustrating too.
Politics best avoided.
Nope. You attempted to imply that he was a communist for daring to look at a dictionary.Excellent post comrade. Oops, shouldn't have said comrade. Gave the game away there didn't I.
Wrong, still. Capitalist here. But:Excellent post comrade. Oops, shouldn't have said comrade. Gave the game away there didn't I.
Nope. You attempted to imply that he was a communist for daring to look at a dictionary.
And they probably will. Eventually. In small print at the bottom of something buried where no one can see it. If it’s video it will be a flying banner too small and fast to read. Equal time and space for retractions was a law effort that got killed some time ago.Everyone of these media outlets along with the CDC that claim this is the result of vaping, should be forced to print retractions.
Every one of these media outlets along with the CDC that claim this is the result of vaping, should be forced to print retractions.
Reds have done a service to the country imho by pointing out imperfections in the blue line. The problem is the alternatives they offer seem to have much larger and more damaging imperfections. Just because one group points out that something is flawed doesn’t mean that their substitute is less flawed. Nothing is perfect. The choice is not which is unflawed, the choice is which is less flawed and how may of those known flaws can be dealt with.
everything I’ve seen so far, with the possible exception of New York, I don’t know how that one worked, has been an executive order, which doesn’t require anyone but the executive. They can be retracted at any time as well. They often don’t survive a regime change but have been known to. For many years now, due to the intractability of the senate due to filibusters it has been nearly impossible to pass any law of any kind in the US, so most stuff is done by executive order. It’s a huge problem. It currently can only be solved when one party gets 61% of the senate.Absolutely, well said. They need each other to balance, and challenge. Disagreement can work very well to slow down chaotic impluses. And oh yes, the blue line goes nuts too. Also why I hope one person cannot just sign an order banning vaping, it should require input from other branches, or even better, do not get involved at all.
What some might say as a drag in our system, I see as an intentional mandate, so that one person's impluse of the moment doesn't become law on a whim. I'm a purple lol, and less government interference and intervention works for me. And...
In the context of this thread, government blue or red, please leave us alone. I chose to vape over smoking. I don't need you to regulate anything. Not for my good, or for the good of your own kids. Yes, JUUL did make a very sell-able product. If you are red, a free market type, what is there to be upset about? If you are blue, then don't use it if you feel it is un-safe. The grey purple middle![]()