If you want to see what happens with paranoia hoarding, look no further than firearms ammunition prices since 2008. Try finding .22LR ammo at a decent price on a consistent basis with no arbitrary limits on amount purchased. It's taken years for it go come down and show up on shelves again and it's still not back to "normal". With .22LR ammo (which no one even talked about banning since evil assault weapons don't shoot .22LR), nothing ever even happened legislatively. People just started hoarding it, buying bulk amounts on speculation, and reselling it at a profit. Prices are pretty much permanently higher now because we've proved we will pay more for it to the manufacturers. I'd wager the vaping community is smaller than the firearms community, so vapers can do more to effect supply and demand (and prices) if they behave in certain ways. Personally, when it ceases to be a hobby and starts to become a chore, I'm out.
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In addition, the reloading components, ie primers, powder, brass, etc is also non-existent or stupid expensive ( think diy components ). Part of the reason is the huge govt purchases of the ammo, thus the components used to make it, stressing the supply. If they can't take it thru the front door, they'll come thru the back door. The govt can do it without any regulation whatsoever, they'll just buy it all up. And we'll all pay for it one way or another.
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Here's my question....if the sales become banned, will the nic some of us have stored become illegal to have? Or just illegal to sell?
probably neither ... you just might not be able to find nic to re-stock
That's what I figured, but had to say it "out loud" since I have been wrong before lol
I can still buy cigarettes from countries like the Ukraine on the internet (delivered to my house via USPS)
My bet is that you will still be able to buy unflavored Nic liquid from China even if there is some kind of a US government ban on the stuff.
My bet is that you will still be able to buy unflavored Nic liquid from China even if there is some kind of a US government ban on the stuff.
I'm interesetd in an answer to this too.
If it's frozen, it should keep for years or even decades I would think.
Nic will only be available from registered pharmacies in a strength not to exceed.......and in a maximum volume of.......Politicians have already received their speaking engagements and campaign contributions ( aka bribes ) and are going to reach an already agreed upon conclusion.
Watching the Today show while I read this thread.
- Cruise ships just banned smoking on balconies and state rooms.
- FDA just approved a new injectable drug for Eczema.
As a person with Eczema, I certainly wouldn't inject something to avoid applying a topical. Waiting for the attorney ads to sue for the side effects of the injectable.
- Cruise ships just banned smoking on balconies and state rooms.
- FDA just approved a new injectable drug for Eczema.
As a person with Eczema, I certainly wouldn't inject something to avoid applying a topical. Waiting for the attorney ads to sue for the side effects of the injectable.
Yeah... There Isn't much in a Nicotine Base to "Turn Bad". Even if it Isn't Frozen.
You might find the first paragraph in post #16 here...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/myfreedomsmokes/43742-smoke-juice-storage-tips-2.html
...of interest.
Ron
I don't hoard but I have 500ml of 100mg
that should last me for 700 days, I think that's enough time to find other sources if nic in the worst case scenario
that should last me for 700 days, I think that's enough time to find other sources if nic in the worst case scenario
Y'all just remember, when the gov't "wants" to drop the ban hammer, it'll come swift and strong....
Poker players still talk about "Black Friday", the day the gov't decided to shut down US players playing poker online. I had thousands of dollars tied up online at Netteller. Fortunately, got mine all back but I know a bunch of people that never did get all their money out. And this happened, like I said, overnight!!! The gov't will do whatever it wants, regardless of the people. But you notice you can still go out and blow your whole paycheck buying lotto tickets or scratch-offs...or go to a live casino and play the same poker (ironically, for some, on electronic tables) that we played online. Where is the justice or "rightness" in that??? It's all about the Benjamin's people. When they want it from us, they will contain it and corral us all down the chute to get us where they think we'll go....
I have about 2000ml's of 100mg nic in the freezer now, as I make for me and about 4 others....I wont get burned again like the poker. (Oh, and they are "slowly" "allowing" online poker to come back in the US....of course it is strictly regulated and taxed now!!!!)
Poker players still talk about "Black Friday", the day the gov't decided to shut down US players playing poker online. I had thousands of dollars tied up online at Netteller. Fortunately, got mine all back but I know a bunch of people that never did get all their money out. And this happened, like I said, overnight!!! The gov't will do whatever it wants, regardless of the people. But you notice you can still go out and blow your whole paycheck buying lotto tickets or scratch-offs...or go to a live casino and play the same poker (ironically, for some, on electronic tables) that we played online. Where is the justice or "rightness" in that??? It's all about the Benjamin's people. When they want it from us, they will contain it and corral us all down the chute to get us where they think we'll go....
I have about 2000ml's of 100mg nic in the freezer now, as I make for me and about 4 others....I wont get burned again like the poker. (Oh, and they are "slowly" "allowing" online poker to come back in the US....of course it is strictly regulated and taxed now!!!!)
Even if purchasing nic is restricted to licensed resellers I don't see the big deal. I currently buy my nic at 36mg and it costs me less than a dollar to make 10ml.
I would think resellers would still be able to sell 36 mg unflavored nic
I would think resellers would still be able to sell 36 mg unflavored nic
Keep your Fingers Crossed about being able to Buy Nicotine Base in 36mg.
And if you still can, Don't you think they are going to Start Putting Tax after Tax on these "Tobacco Products"?
The Item you Mentioned are Considered to be a Medical Devices. And are Not Subject to Taxation in the USA the way that a "Tobacco Product" is.
BTW - Here is a Article, although Somewhat Depressing, that talks a little about Current and Pending State e-Cigarette Taxes.
http://www.cspnet.com/category-news/tobacco/articles/e-cigarette-legislative-environment
http://www.cspnet.com/category-news/tobacco/articles/e-cigarette-legislative-environment
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