Answers from your Congress Critters

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holy_handgrenade

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Recently I responded to a call to action by contacting both my senators and my congressional representative. It's been several months since doing this and this is the first and only response I've recieved:

Thank you for contacting me about the Food and Drug Administration's regulatory authority over e-cigarettes and other smokeless tobacco products.
Electronic cigarettes are products designed to deliver nicotine to the user in the form of vapor instead of smoke. Thus far, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not evaluated e-cigarettes for safety or effectiveness. The FDA did conduct a small study of certain e-cigarettes and found significant quality issues that indicate that quality control processes used to make these products are substandard or non-existent. The FDA has also expressed concern that the marketing of products like e-cigarettes could increase nicotine addiction among young people and encourage them to try other tobacco products.
As part of its implementation of the Family Smoking Prevention and tobacco Control Act, which was signed into law by the President in 2009, the FDA has proposed a new rule that would extend the agency's authority over additional tobacco products like e-cigarettes. Under the proposed rule, e-cigarette manufacturers would be required to register with the FDA, report ingredient lists, and only be able to market new tobacco products after FDA review. Manufacturers would only be able to make direct and implied claims that the FDA has confirmed with scientific evidence. Furthermore, under the proposed rule, there would be minimum age and identification restrictions to prevent sales to underage youth, requirements to include health warnings, and vending machine sales would be prohibited. The FDA has proposed different compliance dates for the various provisions of the rule so that all regulated entities, including small manufacturers, will have time to comply with the requirements. Additionally, products that will continue to be marketed for therapeutic purposes will continue to be regulated as medical products and will be unaffected by this new proposed rule.
The public comment period for the proposed rule on e-cigarettes ended on August 8, 2014. The FDA is currently in the process of reviewing the more than 72,000 received comments and will subsequently issue a final rule.
Thank you again for contacting me. Please do not hesitate to do so again in the future. I also encourage you to visit my website, which may be found at flake.senate.gov.



Sincerely,

JEFF FLAKE
[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif]United States Senator[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif]I basically responded back stating that he's shown that he's not bothered to read my letter or address those concerns and that he's fully vested in FUD from anti-nicotine advocates within the FDA. Also let him know that because of that oversight, I'll remember to vote for "not him" next time around and will be encouraging others to do the same.[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif]Anyone else have any better responses?[/FONT]
 

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EDWARD J. MARKEY
MASSACHUSETTS

218 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING
WASHINGTON, DC 20510
(202) 224-2742


United States Senate


September 12, 2014


Dear "Avid":


Thank you for writing to me about electronic cigarettes. It was good to hear from you on this matter.

Fifty years ago, the Surgeon General issued its landmark brief on the consequences of smoking on public health. The report served to debunk the rumors and misinformation propagated by the tobacco industry and for the first time definitively linked smoking with negative health impacts, including lung cancer and heart disease. This scientifically rigorous report laid the foundation for tobacco control efforts in the United States.

Today, we face a different challenge in understanding the long term impacts and health effects of a new tobacco industry product, the electronic cigarette. While many claims have been made of its benefits, a preliminary FDA study has shown that the cartridges used in electronic cigarettes contain harmful chemicals, including diethylene glycol, a key ingredient of antifreeze. Furthermore, the marketing strategy used by these companies, including the promotion of child-friendly flavors, such as bubblegum, and advertisements featuring cartoons, target and appeal to the youth of our country. Unfortunately, these appeals are working, as electronic cigarette use has more than doubled among U.S middle and high school students between 2011 and 2012.

Electronic cigarettes are not regulated in the same way traditional tobacco products are. They can be legally sold to children and are not subject to the same federal age verification laws or marketing restrictions. E-cigarettes are sold in areas that young people frequent, and are even handed out as free samples. Health experts have expressed concerns that these electronic cigarette devices may make it easy for teenagers to develop an early addiction to nicotine.We've made great strides educating young people about the dangers of smoking, and we cannot allow e-cigarettes to snuff out the progress we've made preventing nicotine addiction and its deadly consequences. This is why I was one of the original cosponsors of the "Protecting Children from the Electronic Cigarette Advertising Act", which prohibits the marketing of e-cigarettes to children and teens.

Thank you again for contacting me about this important matter. You are welcome to leave me another message about this or any other issue through my website, Contact - U.S. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts. To sign up for my newsletter, visit Newsletter Sign-up - U.S. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts. Also, please follow me on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.


Sincerely,


Signature

Edward J. Markey
United States Senator

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This one's from Senator Elizabeth Warren who is about as open-minded as the last one...



Dear "Avid",

Thank you for contacting me about electronic cigarettes, the battery operated nicotine delivery devices commonly known as e-cigarettes.

As you know, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently proposed a rule that would make e-cigarettes and other tobacco products subject to Tobacco Control Act regulations. There is a lot that we still don't know about e-cigarettes – including their long term health effects on users and people around users, how much nicotine or other chemicals are inhaled during use, the role they play initiating smoking behavior in young people, and their effectiveness at helping current smokers quit. Despite these unanswered questions, e-cigarettes have been marketed aggressively by tobacco companies and there has been a troubling rise in e-cigarette use among teenagers. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently found that 10 percent of middle and high school students – or 1.78 million children – used e-cigarettes in 2012, double the e-cigarette use among this age group in 2011.

As American consumers, we rely on the FDA and other government agencies to ensure that products available for purchase are safe. I support the FDA's proposed rule that would require e-cigarettes and other tobacco products to comply with certain regulations, including a ban on sales to minors, a requirement to disclose all ingredients, and a requirement to display a health warning on product packages and advertisements.

Although we disagree about this issue, I appreciate your contacting me to share your views and hope that you will reach out to me again in the future about issues of importance to you or if my office can be of assistance.

Sincerely,

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Elizabeth Warren
United States Senator

Washington, DC
317 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-4543 Boston, MA
2400 JFK Federal Building
15 New Sudbury Street
Boston, MA 02203
Phone: 617-565-3170 Springfield, MA
1550 Main Street
Suite 406
Springfield, MA 01103
Phone: 413-788-2690

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They never listen. :(
 

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Lawmakers vote to get votes of people. People are mostly in anti-vaping mood; how can you expect Lawmakers to vote pro-vape?

Lawmakers love taxes, they’ll be happy to tax vape gear and juice as high as tobacco; how can you expect Lawmakers to vote pro-vape?

Lawmakers love lobbyists (free stuff etc.), BT lobbyists are rich; how can you expect Lawmakers to vote pro-vape?

Stockpile nicotine. Be self-sufficient.
 

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I wish I could get a response back from mine.

I have emailed Federal Reps and Senators as well as State.. none have responded. I have even went to my reps head quarters.

For some reason we have lost for the people, by the people, and of the people.

You would probably have gotten the same response. In a way I wish they had ignored my emails (although technically they did) - I would have at least thought they were considering them. Same canned response. :( As long as BT's buying, they don't care what any of us think. They're not even fact-checking, they just follow the $$$ and use the "what about the children?!?" excuse for it. Every time.
 

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You would probably have gotten the same response. In a way I wish they had ignored my emails (although technically they did) - I would have at least thought they were considering them. Same canned response. :( As long as BT's buying, they don't care what any of us think. They're not even fact-checking, they just follow the $$$ and use the "what about the children?!?" excuse for it. Every time.

You know what the sad thing? When I started vaping BT wasn't even involved... or they weren't thinking of the vaporizer. So I am not sure how they get tobacco. It almost as saying chocolate should be regulated by the coffee industry since it contain caffeine.. which is more prevalent in the coffee bean.

I dismiss any politician that brings kids into the picture. It is just a pathetic human being that hasn't read up on it...let's include the children... or hey let's put it on the cloud.
 

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[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif]Anyone else have any better responses?[/FONT]

Thank you for taking the time to contact the Office of Senator Joe Hune on Senate Bill 1018 to impose a tax on e-cigarettes. This bill is currently in the senate committee on finance. Senator Hune has not expressed his opinion on this bill yet. However, Senator Hune has never voted for a tax increase. You can follow this bill at 2014 Senate Bill 1018: Impose tobacco tax on e-cigarettes - Michigan Votes.

If you have any more questions, comments, or concerns please feel free to contact the office by email or by calling toll free 855-Joe-Hune. Again, thank you for taking the time to contact the office.

Sincerely,


Theresa M. Grace
Office of Senator Joe Hune
Phone: 517-373-2430
855-Joe-Hune
Fax: 517-373-2764
tgrace@senate.michigan.gov
Home - Senator Joe Hune

I like this part... "Senator Hune has never voted for a tax increase."
 

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I dismiss any politician that brings kids into the picture. It is just a pathetic human being that hasn't read up on it...let's include the children... or hey let's put it on the cloud.

My senatorial critters apparently use children like a weapon. Nothing new there. :(
 

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When are Americans ever going to wake up and realize that for the most part writing letters/emailing congress members is a monumental waste of time unless it's a deluge from a large segment of the electorate that threatens the politician's chance of being re-elected? They care only for themselves, their respective party and the oligarchs that fund and benefit from their office. They couldn't care less about the welfare of the nation or its citizens.

Wake up.
 

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When are Americans ever going to wake up and realize that for the most part writing letters/emailing congress members is a monumental waste of time unless it's a deluge from a large segment of the electorate that threatens the politician's chance of being re-elected? They care only for themselves, their respective party and the oligarchs that fund and benefit from their office. They couldn't care less about the welfare of the nation or its citizens.

Wake up.

I still have a voice.
 

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When are Americans ever going to wake up and realize that for the most part writing letters/emailing congress members is a monumental waste of time unless it's a deluge from a large segment of the electorate that threatens the politician's chance of being re-elected? They care only for themselves, their respective party and the oligarchs that fund and benefit from their office. They couldn't care less about the welfare of the nation or its citizens.

Wake up.

It makes me feel better by writing a letter. Every once in a while they will answer. It is better than sticking your head in a hole and praying it will go away.

If that is the case why bother to vote. Why bother to leave your home. Why bother to wake up in the morning. It all sounds like apathy.

For me give me some freaking term limits on these old farts.. get them out of there.. 2 or 3 terms max like the Presidency.... Why on earth they didn't but that in when they wrote it... who knows.
 

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When are Americans ever going to wake up and realize that for the most part writing letters/emailing congress members is a monumental waste of time unless it's a deluge from a large segment of the electorate that threatens the politician's chance of being re-elected? They care only for themselves, their respective party and the oligarchs that fund and benefit from their office. They couldn't care less about the welfare of the nation or its citizens.

Wake up.

Seriously?! You can't have a deluge without each individual?!

I'm already ...... off about something else, so I'll try to be real kind here ;)

Everything starts with 1... 1 person, 1 email, 1 post... the KEY, is that you CAN'T STOP at just 1.

So, Irwink... you can go on and be negative and tell everyone that we can't change anything... maybe we can't... I would rather know that I tried instead of just telling people they will fail.

As far as the bulk of your post,... I agree. Politicians are generally quite corrupt and like most, think of themselves first, and others after. That isn't going to stop me from contacting them though. The news/media in general may have an agenda,... that isn't going to stop me from posting, calling, etc. Certain people within the 'Scientific' community.. same thing.. over and over, just pretend I kept going, you get the point.

You do what you do... I'll do what I do. If what I do doesn't matter, how is that hurting you?
 

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I pay attention. I write. I vote. I use my voice, and I voice my opinions...

I also stockpile everything that I think I may need or be able to use in trade should the Zombie Apocalypse become reality......

Thanks for taking that to the extreme
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Seriously?! You can't have a deluge without each individual?!

I'm already ...... off about something else, so I'll try to be real kind here ;)

Everything starts with 1... 1 person, 1 email, 1 post... the KEY, is that you CAN'T STOP at just 1.

So, Irwink... you can go on and be negative and tell everyone that we can't change anything... maybe we can't... I would rather know that I tried instead of just telling people they will fail.

As far as the bulk of your post,... I agree. Politicians are generally quite corrupt and like most, think of themselves first, and others after. That isn't going to stop me from contacting them though. The news/media in general may have an agenda,... that isn't going to stop me from posting, calling, etc. Certain people within the 'Scientific' community.. same thing.. over and over, just pretend I kept going, you get the point.

You do what you do... I'll do what I do. If what I do doesn't matter, how is that hurting you?

Your exercise in futility doesn't hurt me a bit! Vapers are not a large enough segment of society and the electorate to matter. An aid will read an email and mechanically send out a canned response. If writing those emails makes you feel better then by all means carry on!

BTW I'm 61 years old and have witnessed first hand this government devolve into the self serving oligarchy it has become. But go ahead and hammer your keyboard. Fixing what used to be 'our' government is going to take more than the minuscule number of vapers as compared to the general population. But keep tilting with those windmills!
 
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