Any ideas of what we need for the VV that I am making?

[atavanhalen]

You could make something like the terminator from Nhaler , but make it like an addition , like how u have the connect to any mod peice . And maybe make the dial like ur air flow just twist the cap.

If I didn't explain that so u can picture what I'm picturing in my head someone held me elaborate

I think you are talking about the terminator from notcigs, nhaler has the regulator which just regulates anything higher than 5volts down to 5volts. the terminator from notcigs has a potentiometer that you can adjust the voltage from 3to 7volt or so, no longer made though. I actually have used it on my ggts using stacked imr18350s, it was quite long lol.

 

[compltaset77]

I think a horizontal dial with 3.5-8 v with .5 v increnmental marks sort of like adjustable drawtank and nut. I think this would make for a look we already love and would make for a stealth vv addon as far as looks go i would like to here your thoughts

 

[Captain Morgan]

I think a horizontal dial with 3.5-8 v with .5 v increnmental marks sort of like adjustable drawtank and nut. I think this would make for a look we already love and would make for a stealth vv addon as far as looks go i would like to here your thoughts

The decission to have votage/wattage selection via a dial or via a diggital display toggled by the GGTS Switch Button, hinges on whether everyone thinks a digital display is necessary. I think a diggital display is necessary for the following reasons:

1. To display the ohms on the attached atty/carto to facilitate initial voltage/wattage selection, and to determine if the atty/carto is dead.
2. To display error codes when the atty/carto doesn't fire due to weak batt, bad atty/carto, user sellected votage/wattage exceeds auto amperage limitations, battery reversed, etc., etc.
3. To facilitate voltage/wattage selection.
4. To facilitate turning on or off the auto amperage limitation function.
5. To display and facilitate adjustment of all VV or VW functions.
6. Makes for easy trouble shooting when an atty/carto doesn't fire.

Any thoughts, anyone?

 

[inquisitorj]

I totally agree with the features that you have listed! I aslo agree that if the VV add on is more than just an inline potentiometer there needs to be a display.

 

[buGG]

sounds good, captain. undoubtedly a display would improve user operations, but what would it do aesthetically? i wonder what kind of animated graphic we could get to reflect this and some of the other approaches as well. are you thinking digital display like the darwin or more like the provari? using the existing ggts button to toggle through the operations is interesting too, especially for maintaining the signature GG look. but out of curiosity where do you envision this component sitting in the TS? does it replace an existing subsection like the base/ bottom battery compartment that currently houses the button, is it like adding another collector tank on the unit, thereby increasing length but maintaining overall diameter, or do you think the component will have a larger diameter than the rest of the device, something like an AFS on the GGTB? i get a strange feeling that all of this is already wrapped up in imeo's mind, but nevertheless it's nice to hear what could be or might be from the standpoint of other users.

 

[Poppa D]

sounds good, captain. undoubtedly a display would improve user operations, but what would it do aesthetically? i wonder what kind of animated graphic we could get to reflect this and some of the other approaches as well. are you thinking digital display like the darwin or more like the provari? using the existing ggts button to toggle through the operations is interesting too, especially for maintaining the signature GG look. but out of curiosity where do you envision this component sitting in the TS? does it replace an existing subsection like the base/ bottom battery compartment that currently houses the button, is it like adding another collector tank on the unit, thereby increasing length but maintaining overall diameter, or do you think the component will have a larger diameter than the rest of the device, something like an AFS on the GGTB? i get a strange feeling that all of this is already wrapped up in imeo's mind, but nevertheless it's nice to hear what could be or might be from the standpoint of other users.

I agree, keep it simple. It needs to fit in my pocket.

 

[Captain Morgan]

sounds good, captain. undoubtedly a display would improve user operations, but what would it do aesthetically? i wonder what kind of animated graphic we could get to reflect this and some of the other approaches as well. are you thinking digital display like the darwin or more like the provari? using the existing ggts button to toggle through the operations is interesting too, especially for maintaining the signature GG look. but out of curiosity where do you envision this component sitting in the TS? does it replace an existing subsection like the base/ bottom battery compartment that currently houses the button, is it like adding another collector tank on the unit, thereby increasing length but maintaining overall diameter, or do you think the component will have a larger diameter than the rest of the device, something like an AFS on the GGTB? i get a strange feeling that all of this is already wrapped up in imeo's mind, but nevertheless it's nice to hear what could be or might be from the standpoint of other users.

I am thinking of a display similar to the ProVari, housed in a tube about the same length and diameter as a Collecter Tank (CT), the window (maybe smoked glass instead of clear) horizontal with a sliding metal shutter to hide and protect the window. In that a Booster has to work off of the positive pole of a batt, the VV/VW unit would screw on between the CT and the upper batt tube, increasing the overall length of the GGTS by about 1 to 1 1/4 inch. The GGTS as it exists today would not change one iota. The VV/VW unit screws on and off and the only physical change is in length when installed. When it is removed, the GGTS returns to its manual functioning. On a ProVari, the VV unit is housed in a .9 inch tube and is about 1 1/4 long, and it has a huge display, one larger than needed IMO. The GGTS Diggital Display could use a smaller display and save space. The VV/VW unit would be sensitive to current flow and like the ProVari initiate function adjustment features based on the number of short current surges into the unit, regardless of where the power button is located (i.e. work off of the existing GGTS button). I can not see how this wouldn't work and remain in keeping with the present GGTS design .

 

[buGG]

thanks, captain! i think i have a good visual of what you're talking about.

 

[Captain Morgan]

One other thought, not to do with functionality, but with maintenance. We all know that electrical parts will eventually fail, so if the unit could be constructed in a modular manner where the end user could service it themselves by removing a failed module and snapping in a replacement module (no soldering please), this would take a tremendous maintenance burden off of Imeo, as well as reduce the cost of ownership to the end user. Else, they need to be really inexpensive throw away items that are cheaper to replace than repair. A show stopper would be for Imeo to become so bogged down in maintenance of the VV/VW units that he had little time for anything else. I look forward to new GG items and want to see Imeo the Inventor continue, not Imeo becoming the Maintenance Man.

 

[Poppa D]

One other thought, not to do with functionality, but with maintenance. We all know that electrical parts will eventually fail, so if the unit could be constructed in a modular manner where the end user could service it themselves by removing a failed module and snapping in a replacement module (no soldering please), this would take a tremendous maintenance burden off of Imeo, as well as reduce the cost of ownership to the end user. Else, they need to be really inexpensive throw away items that are cheaper to replace than repair. A show stopper would be for Imeo to become so bogged down in maintenance of the VV/VW units that he had little time for anything else. I look forward to new GG items and want to see Imeo the Inventor continue, not Imeo becoming the Maintenance Man.

Very good idea. Upgrades and revisions could be easily self serviced.

 

[dspin]

I agree, as long as I can go from 3.7 to 5.0 I'll be happy- a display will perhaps not make the GG look right. In the end, Imeo will decide.

sounds good, captain. undoubtedly a display would improve user operations, but what would it do aesthetically? i wonder what kind of animated graphic we could get to reflect this and some of the other approaches as well. are you thinking digital display like the darwin or more like the provari? using the existing ggts button to toggle through the operations is interesting too, especially for maintaining the signature GG look. but out of curiosity where do you envision this component sitting in the TS? does it replace an existing subsection like the base/ bottom battery compartment that currently houses the button, is it like adding another collector tank on the unit, thereby increasing length but maintaining overall diameter, or do you think the component will have a larger diameter than the rest of the device, something like an AFS on the GGTB? i get a strange feeling that all of this is already wrapped up in imeo's mind, but nevertheless it's nice to hear what could be or might be from the standpoint of other users.

 

[Captain Morgan]

I agree, as long as I can go from 3.7 to 5.0 I'll be happy- a display will perhaps not make the GG look right. In the end, Imeo will decide.

A window similar in height as the UFS running horizontal like the window on the UFS, but only 1/2 inch in width with a smokey or amber colored glass and capable of being concealed, how would that not look right? More over, how could one adjust multiple features or trouble shoot problems without it? Not having a display would be like having a computer without a monitor, IMHO. True, in the end Imeo will decide and I will be comfortable with his decision.

 

[dspin]

Since you put it that way, sounds good. Guess I'm to used to seeing square displays and big ones.

A window similar in height as the UFS running horizontal like the window on the UFS, but only 1/2 inch in width with a smokey or amber colored glass and capable of being concealed, how would that not look right? More over, how could one adjust multiple features or trouble shoot problems without it? Not having a display would be like having a computer without a monitor, IMHO. True, in the end Imeo will decide and I will be comfortable with his decision.

 

[fatboystudios]

A lot of people do not like the display. I know its more maintenance and durability with a display is questionable. but having a display is a huge advantage. Especially with the Iatty where you can measure atomizer resistance without a tester. you can also see battery life. you can adjust power in small increments. A dial would have a hard time being as accurate as a digital display. JMHO..=)

 

[silentt]

I am +1 for display, it will make things a lot more simple to use and I really don't think it will look bad. Imeo has good taste and he will make it look great.

 

[Rick.45cal]

Considering Imeo has already turned the PV world upside down... I'm sure whatever is on the drawing board is going to do the same for the VV & VW world as well. We all know it will be worthy of the GG name I can't wait!

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

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1. Single battery with a voltage booster.

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2. Ability to adjust voltage up and down.

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3. Digital display to visually show your atty/carto ohms.

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4. A low battery alert.

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5. Reverse battery protection.

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6. Battery monitoring.

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7. Short circuit protection.

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8. Auto amperage limiting system that can be toggled on or off.

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9. Thermal monitoring.

#1 Disagree... With a booster you get terrible battery life & can't achieve higher wattages
#3 Disagree... A display is not needed and will take away from the looks of the GG
#4 Disagree... This is unnecessary feature most everybody can tell by the vape when their battery is getting low
#5 Disagree... we all already know how the batteries are inserted in the GG (- to the spring)
#6 Disagree... this goes along with what I stated about #4
#8 Disagree... Not needed & do you really want another switch


If I wanted all the features you listed I would just buy a Provari... which I wouldn't!


Please don't take offense to this Captain, these are just my

 

[atavanhalen]

#1 Disagree... With a booster you get terrible battery life & can't achieve higher wattages
#3 Disagree... A display is not needed and will take away from the looks of the GG
#4 Disagree... This is unnecessary feature most everybody can tell by the vape when their battery is getting low
#5 Disagree... we all already know how the batteries are inserted in the GG (- to the spring)
#6 Disagree... this goes along with what I stated about #4
#8 Disagree... Not needed & do you really want another switch


If I wanted all the features you listed I would just buy a Provari... which I wouldn't!


Please don't take offense to this Captain, these are just my

I think I am kinda on the same page with you about this, I think less is gonna be more with this add on, I think just being able to adjust voltage or watts from 3.5 to 7 with an easy adjustment knob or wheel or similar will be all that this add on needs. I think that instead of focusing on a digital display, more focus on incorporating the adjustment knob as part of the ggts so no one would even know it was there. An example would be having the adjustment knob look like the bottom cap which I think someone else suggested. That is my opinion.

A window similar in height as the UFS running horizontal like the window on the UFS, but only 1/2 inch in width with a smokey or amber colored glass and capable of being concealed, how would that not look right? More over, how could one adjust multiple features or trouble shoot problems without it? Not having a display would be like having a computer without a monitor, IMHO. True, in the end Imeo will decide and I will be comfortable with his decision.

I think it depends on the features because if the only feature is adjusting wattage then I do not think the computer without a monitor comment applies. If there are multiple features then a display will make it a lot easier to use but if its just watts up and down then there is no need in my opinion. There are a lot of mods that do not have displays and they work well because you use your taste buds or throat to adjust the watts or volts. If its not hittin hard enough turn it up, if its tasting burnt turn it down ect.. I have not read this entire thread so if Imeo has spoken to which features will be included then this post may be void. I just want to be able to afford this add on, lol so I am hoping for something without so many bells and whistles. I would think keeping it basic would also speak to user replace-ability as well.

 

[Captain Morgan]

#1 Disagree... With a booster you get terrible battery life & can't achieve higher wattages
#3 Disagree... A display is not needed and will take away from the looks of the GG
#4 Disagree... This is unnecessary feature most everybody can tell by the vape when their battery is getting low
#5 Disagree... we all already know how the batteries are inserted in the GG (- to the spring)
#6 Disagree... this goes along with what I stated about #4
#8 Disagree... Not needed & do you really want another switch


If I wanted all the features you listed I would just buy a Provari... which I wouldn't!


Please don't take offense to this Captain, these are just my

B-Rad - No offense taken, but your "#1 Disagree..." isn't entirely factual. A single boosted high drain AW IMR 18650 3.7v 1600mAh batt set at 5.2v will exceed the battery life of two stacked Tenergy LiFePO4 3.2v 750mAh batts (that most people use to vape at 5v-6v) operating at 5.2v underload by as much as two hours. Been there, done that, and I do it every day!

Why do you feel #8 is not needed? Auto amperage limiting when turned on will save you from popping attys while dialing for that sweet spot. Who wouldn't like that? I know of one ProVari user who after several months said he had saved enough on attys to pay for his ProVari. Nothing wrong with that.

You didn't disagree to numbers 7 (short circuit protection) and 9 (thermal monitoring) so I assume you agree to those. So without a display when your GGTTS stops vaping, how will you know why it stopped? It could be low batts, or shorted atty, or a thermal shutdown, or a VV/VW failure. With a display you would know why in seconds. Trouble shooting without a display would be one of elimination. Eliminating all the possibilies until you found the right one, which would obviously take considerably more time.

If I wanted all the features you listed I would just buy a Potentiometer... which I wouldn't!


No offense B-Rad. Just joking.

 

[urbanite]

I think the VW idea is good. I like the idea of having a stable watt output... but then I think a display would be too much and probably too expensive to make. Never used any VV or VW mods though, so I really don't know much. Would like that it fits into the GG aesthetics though...