Anybody Using A Kabuki?

[Zen~]

Kabuki 2.0 Zen?

I can not speak for the other great folks running around this forum, but I would pay a premium price for a Kabuki that maintained the performance I have come to love AND had a 5 ml 316lL SS tank with crystal or polycarbonate juice view port. Add the options of Zencote and or engraving and I would have no hesitation in opening the wallet wide with a "Sky's the Limit" attitude. And failing that, does HoH do one-off's that might meet the above criteria?

5Ml doesn't wick properly in ANY tank... yes, they wick, but not as well as the Kabuki, which is one of the reasons (but not the only reason) why it has such great flavor.

tanks with windows have to be either WIDER, or have less capacity.

ZenKote will happen.

We do occasional one-offs, and short limited runs, but not by custom order, those are usually things I feel like doing for grins and giggles. Sort of like the engraved end caps I just did... I wanted one for myself, so I made about a dozen of them. They may never be repeated, they may become a regular item. I'm just exploring at this point.

But that being said, I would LOVE to make a 5Ml tank atty... but I won't make one that doesn't perform as well as the Kabuki, and so far, the laws of physics just have absolutely no regard for what I want. They just keep telling me no.

There's not a lot of places to engrave on a Kabuki, but I have some ideas I may explore.

 

[madangus]

Second black radius and second p3 threaded kabuki come tomorrow! Hurrah!

Now the juice, which shall it be me wonders

 

[Jim-]

5Ml doesn't wick properly in ANY tank... yes, they wick, but not as well as the Kabuki, which is one of the reasons (but not the only reason) why it has such great flavor.

Tanks with windows have to be either WIDER, or have less capacity.

ZenKote will happen.

We do occasional one-offs, and short limited runs, but not by custom order, those are usually things I feel like doing for grins and giggles. Sort of like the engraved end caps I just did... I wanted one for myself, so I made about a dozen of them. They may never be repeated, they may become a regular item. I'm just exploring at this point.

But that being said, I would LOVE to make a 5Ml tank atty... but I won't make one that doesn't perform as well as the Kabuki, and so far, the laws of physics just have absolutely no regard for what I want. They just keep telling me no.

There's not a lot of places to engrave on a Kabuki, but I have some ideas I may explore.

So what you are telling me is that not only do I need to figure out a way to bend the laws of physics, but I need to make you grin and giggle? I'm thinking I have my work cut out for me LOL! In re: the engraving I was considering the space on a SS tank with just a small crystal view port. I shall ponder on this mystery and see if I can lift the foggy veil...

Thanks for the prompt response,

 

[Katdarling]

Sort of like the engraved end caps I just did... I wanted one for myself, so I made about a dozen of them.

Maximum 9 left.

 

[DPLongo22]

So what you are telling me is that not only do I need to figure out a way to bend the laws of physics, but I need to make you grin and giggle? I'm thinking I have my work cut out for me LOL! In re: the engraving I was considering the space on a SS tank with just a small crystal view port. I shall ponder on this mystery and see if I can lift the foggy veil...

Thanks for the prompt response,

If we can ever confirm Einstein's theory of wormholes, Zen will almost certainly figure a 5ml Solution.

In the meantime, us Big Juicy folks will continue to wait.

 

[DPLongo22]

Maximum 9 left.

LOL!

Frivolity at its absolute finest.

 

[Housedag]

5Ml doesn't wick properly in ANY tank... yes, they wick, but not as well as the Kabuki, which is one of the reasons (but not the only reason) why it has such great flavor.

Tanks with windows have to be either WIDER, or have less capacity.

ZenKote will happen.

We do occasional one-offs, and short limited runs, but not by custom order, those are usually things I feel like doing for grins and giggles. Sort of like the engraved end caps I just did... I wanted one for myself, so I made about a dozen of them. They may never be repeated, they may become a regular item. I'm just exploring at this point.

But that being said, I would LOVE to make a 5Ml tank atty... but I won't make one that doesn't perform as well as the Kabuki, and so far, the laws of physics just have absolutely no regard for what I want. They just keep telling me no.

There's not a lot of places to engrave on a Kabuki, but I have some ideas I may explore.

How about putting a few ZEN logos on your kabuki tanks in strategic places?

Tracy


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[hobbes4]

Picked up a 510 kabuki in the classifieds a few days ago, hasn't arrived yet but i've read this entire thread and i'm super excited. I'll admit i was one of the people who was very skeptical after being burned by a few replacement coil tanks in the past but i just couldn't resist any longer. As a relatively new father (10 month old baby boy at home), i just don't have the time anymore to play with all my vape gear and build coils. I need something simple (plug and play) that i can just grab and leave the house with.

Glad to hear there is a P3 to Z2 adapter coming soon. If i'm happy with this 510 version i will definitely be picking up a P3 version and i also have a few ZNAs so this makes me very happy.

 

[stanleybb50]

So this has been on my mind more than ever lately due to Zen's post and data on resistance/etc...

I've been wondering (on regulated devices) why we see people using big gauge kanthal at Super low ohms... Why? What is the benefit? Is there a benefit? I'm honestly asking.

It seems to me that all you get are a lower ramp up times, slower cool down times, wasted energy, faster battery drain, etc.

It's all about heat and surface area - right?

What kind of got me thinking on this is that most people at my work are newer and using these sub-ohm tanks... They go through batteries and juice like no other. I tell them I'm at like 9-11 watts and their reaction is "oh wow - I could never go down to that... I'm too used to like 65 watts". But it's not about the watts... Again it's heat and surface area. I think they're under the impression their vape is like 6 times as powerful and that's just not the case.

So again (really and truly) I'm asking: what is the advantage of low and super-low ohm Kanthal on regulated devices? Is there one? I guess I can see and understand the draw of dual coils and where that might be advantageous... But why giant gauges?

*I also understand with titanium and Nickel of course.

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[ENAUD]

So this has been on my mind more than ever lately due to Zen's post and data on resistance/etc...

I've been wondering (on regulated devices) why we see people using big gauge kanthal at Super low ohms... Why? What is the benefit? Is there a benefit? I'm honestly asking.

It seems to me that all you get are a lower ramp up times, slower cool down times, wasted energy, faster battery drain, etc.

It's all about heat and surface area - right?

What kind of got me thinking on this is that most people at my work are newer and using these sub-ohm tanks... They go through batteries and juice like no other. I tell them I'm at like 9-11 watts and their reaction is "oh wow - I could never go down to that... I'm too used to like 65 watts". But it's not about the watts... Again it's heat and surface area. I think they're under the impression their vape is like 6 times as powerful and that's just not the case.

So again (really and truly) I'm asking: what is the advantage of low and super-low ohm Kanthal on regulated devices? Is there one? I guess I can see and understand the draw of dual coils and where that might be advantageous... But why giant gauges?

*I also understand with titanium and Nickel of course.

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It's what they learned...a couple weeks back I visited a local B&M that was bought out recently. Half the store was a juice bar where you could have juice "custom blended" right in front of you. They had a few starter kits, but very little in the way of what I consider normal gear. Most stuff was either sub-ohm, or temp control. The mods were predominantly 40-75 watt and up. They want to sell lot's of e-juice, I think that is there greatest profit margin.

 

[JD53]

So this has been on my mind more than ever lately due to Zen's post and data on resistance/etc...

I've been wondering (on regulated devices) why we see people using big gauge kanthal at Super low ohms... Why? What is the benefit? Is there a benefit? I'm honestly asking.

It seems to me that all you get are a lower ramp up times, slower cool down times, wasted energy, faster battery drain, etc.

It's all about heat and surface area - right?

What kind of got me thinking on this is that most people at my work are newer and using these sub-ohm tanks... They go through batteries and juice like no other. I tell them I'm at like 9-11 watts and their reaction is "oh wow - I could never go down to that... I'm too used to like 65 watts". But it's not about the watts... Again it's heat and surface area. I think they're under the impression their vape is like 6 times as powerful and that's just not the case.

So again (really and truly) I'm asking: what is the advantage of low and super-low ohm Kanthal on regulated devices? Is there one? I guess I can see and understand the draw of dual coils and where that might be advantageous... But why giant gauges?

*I also understand with titanium and Nickel of course.

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I don't see an advantage. I'm getting good flavor & vapor from the 1.8Ω BVC and a 1.9Ω 28ga Kanthal build in my Kayfun 4. I run both at low power levels and my batteries like me. I've own sub ohm tanks and don't care for them at all. Heavier gauge Kanthal means you just have to pull more current thru them to create heat. Mid level Ω lets you take advantage of a variable power device. I just want a pleasurable and convenient vape. I'm not out to impress. I'm glad to see someone ask this question. Its ok if someone likes hi power - lo res, just stay of the stinkies. Cheers

 

[Zen~]

So this has been on my mind more than ever lately due to Zen's post and data on resistance/etc...

I've been wondering (on regulated devices) why we see people using big gauge kanthal at Super low ohms... Why? What is the benefit? Is there a benefit? I'm honestly asking.

It seems to me that all you get are a lower ramp up times, slower cool down times, wasted energy, faster battery drain, etc.

They don't know any better, and people seem to have an unwritten contract with the universe that states, and I quote: "Once knowledge of a particular topic has been assimilated it becomes a guarantee that you will never have to learn anything else, ever again"

So they resist, ESPECIALLY if what they learned in the first place works to some degree.

 

[PamW]

Does anyone make replacement glass for kabuki?

Just a FYI. I got glass for my Kabuki P3 from someone else and had trouble with it. The inside mm of the tube was fractionally larger and leaked at the bottom oring.

 

[GeekyGeezer]

They don't know any better, and people seem to have an unwritten contract with the universe that states, and I quote: "Once knowledge of a particular topic has been assimilated it becomes a guarantee that you will never have to learn anything else, ever again"

So they resist, ESPECIALLY if what they learned in the first place works to some degree.

I will hereby commandeer that quote for the proper times.

I think it's also a factor of that seemingly ingrained human belief that bigger is always better. I don't know, maybe it comes from the days where a big animal yielded more food than a smaller one. Regardless, it seems to present itself in "a larger cloud HAS to be better than a small one", "if 15 watts is good, 200 must be nirvana" and "but the dial on this one goes all the way to 11".

Knowing that the industry does not seem to have brakes or much common sense, this tank is almost frightening:
(Scroll down for a look at the coil)

Indulgence Mutank 30w-150w 304stainless Steel Convenient Top Refill Design Mutank Double Layered Drip Tip - Buy Mutank,Indulgence Mutank,Double Layered Product on Alibaba.com

 

[JD53]

1. Zen, Is there any chance for a 3/4 " (19mm) Kabuki. Of all the devices I've owned and gotten rid of, an Innokin VTR still sets on the shelf waiting for a premium device. I just like the OS and it looks like an old Dunhill. How about looking into a Kabuki mini. Maybe 2" by .75". Boy would that make me a happy camper!

 

[meleemark]

Kabuki 2.0 Zen?

I can not speak for the other great folks running around this forum, but I would pay a premium price for a Kabuki that maintained the performance I have come to love AND had a 5 ml 316lL SS tank with crystal or polycarbonate juice view port. Add the options of Zencote and or engraving and I would have no hesitation in opening the wallet wide with a "Sky's the Limit" attitude. And failing that, does HoH do one-off's that might meet the above criteria?

Yes please.

 

[cllmda]

It's ok, you're not a dunce...

So lets do this...

Looking from the bottom, loosen the screw into which the little wrench fits... (the 510 pin is that little screw)
With your tank apart, remove the coil...
Look down in there for little bits of junk that might be loose
If there are little bits of say, black delrin that don't belong there, dislodge them
Put a NEW coil back in, and even if the coil you just removed IS new, put in a different one anyway.
FIRMLY seat the coil...
Now, back to the bottom...
PUSH IN on the black delrin insulator
tighten the 510 pin until it JUST touches the coil... do NOT over tighten
Put the Kabuki on a PV and try to fire it.

Hi Zen & everybody ,

Thanks so much for your help with this .

I followed the process you explained above but unfortunately it's still on OP...

However, I think I know now what may be wrong (?)= when I screwed the kabuki back on the P3 the 510 PIN was sticking out a bit .

BUT when I went to take it off and unscrewed the kabuki from the P3 after the failed attempt I noticed that the little pin was no longer protruding at all and seemed to be pushed back in to the level of the metal ring +black ring that hold it.

I tried this process several times, with the same result.
When I screwed the pin in with the little wrench I made sure not too tighten too much , it was still sticking out and seemed to be holding well but apparently it's somehow getting pushed in everytime I screw the kabuki on a PV.
It's not pushed in alot, just enough to be "flat" with the metal ring that holds it and the black ring.But it's definitely no longer sticking out..... and thus probably not making contact ?

Meanwhile,I got an answer from Keith from Creme de vape UK (where Ive been purchasing my Kabuki's) who suggested the following :

"Hello,


Sorry to hear you are having trouble with your Kabuki. This sounds to me like the head is not making contact with your P3 device’s centre post. You can pull out gently on the coil/head’s base part to extend the length a fraction of a mm to help with this. Be careful not to pull the bit out of the head, you just want to move it a tiny bit and then try it again. If that does not work, might be worth trying a new head in the tank, but I think you can most likely get that one working again by doing as I suggested above.




Let me know how you get along OK"


I WILL try his suggestion but I have already changed the coil twice so i dont think the prob is with the coil...???
The same coils are working fine when I switch them into a mini Nautilus and try them on the same P3.

 

[h00ligan]

Kabuki relevant

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I just saw that the triton mini coils are due out end of month and will fit. At 1.2ohms this could
Be exactly the fill in I'm missing on the kabuki. Just a bit more oomph. Also working well with mech mods. Saved me from ordering too many of the other coils until these are out. I'm really optimistic about them! 1.2 is my target build for kanthal so it will be great to have disposables built to that and the triton coils are stainless steel which I prefer also. Hopefully the mini coils are. These are all supposed to fit the kabuki.

Aspire Triton Mini Replacement 1.2ohm Coil 5pcs(delivery in the late of the Nov) [8335 1.2ohm发热丝] - $16.00 : Aspire online shopping

Also Clapton coils (undo find twisted offers better taste but I've never used a premade twisted or clapton coil id be curious how they are. Men ouch to buy a pack. Aspire Triton Mini Replacement 1.8 Clapton Coil 5pcs(delivery in the late of the Nov) [8335 1.8ohm发热丝] - $17.00 : Aspire online shopping

And temperature control (please can we not argue I'm just posting information. If you don't want to use temp Control don't. Just another coil available.
Aspire Triton Mini Replacement(Temperature Sensing) Ni-200 0.15ohm Coil 5pcs(delivery in the late of the Nov) [8335 0.15ohm NI-200发热丝] - $16.00 : Aspire online shopping


Bottom line is three new coil choices are a plus for people who can use them. Afaik these fit anything they can take a nautilus coil. I hope that's correct
General vaping so skip if you don't care.
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As to low ohm builds here are benefits over higher ohm builds for Lung hitters. But again people who believe the know all on a subject don't want to consider they may be wrong. That goes on all sides. I don't personally prefer lung hitting style of vaping. I do prefer to vape closer to 1 ohm than 2 so for me in the case of the new coils I believe for my usage the triton mini coils will suit better.


I use 26 gauge over 28 sometimes and 30 other times. There are a lot of things to consider when changing gauges. He characteristics of the vapor change with the size of the wire and the build room has something to do with it also. Similarly surface area touching cotton matters. If one wants a low ohm build one is hardly going to
Use a single wrap 28 gauge when one can use five wrap 24 and cover more surface area. That's just one example.

It's unfortunate that people on boards can't or don't wish to consider he way they vape isn't for everyone. This is very present in the cloud club. The normal for vaping now is taking direct king hits. But it's seen al Around.

For me. More surface area with even heating typically means better vape. I use the maximum allowed space over the air intake to achieve that.

I also personally find micro coils overused. Spaced 2.5 mm coils for me offer great flavor, are easy to build properly. Don't rally hot spot, and offer a few other advantages.

 

[tyleris12]

Just a FYI. I got glass for my Kabuki P3 from someone else and had trouble with it. The inside mm of the tube was fractionally larger and leaked at the bottom oring.

I always suggest people buy some extra o-rings, in different thicknesses, as changing the o-ring can solve things like this.

 

[h00ligan]

I thought zen had listed glass dimensions so people had the option of ordering from places like ibtanked?