Anybody Using A Kabuki?

[Zen~]

I WILL try his suggestion but I have already changed the coil twice so i dont think the prob is with the coil...???
The same coils are working fine when I switch them into a mini nautilus and try them on the same P3.

Something is up with the base of that Kabuki... please... contact me Via PM so I can send you off a new base directly, and immediately.

 

[kates]

I have the 510 and I had to fiddle a bit when I first got it. Don't know if this helps but this is how my little silver bit currently sits:

 

[Zen~]

I thought zen had listed glass dimensions so people had the option of ordering from places like ibtanked?

I have posted them, but that's no guarantee that IBTanked will have glass that meets the correct tolerances. With glass, it's always measured by the OD of the glass, and if the wall thickness is incorrect, or out of spec, then we're gonna have a fit issue.

My glass is measured with pin gauges for GO/NO-GO... I reject about 10%.

 

[h00ligan]

I have posted them, but that's no guarantee that IBTanked will have glass that meets the correct tolerances. With glass, it's always measured by the OD of the glass, and if the wall thickness is incorrect, or out of spec, then we're gonna have a fit issue.

My glass is measured with pin gauges for GO/NO-GO... I reject about 10%.

Thanks for the clarification.

I have the 510 and I had to fiddle a bit when I first got it. Don't know if this helps but this is how my little silver bit currently sits:View attachment 505425

See to me that's screwed in too far and it's pushing out the insulator. From what I can see. Try unscrewing it. Popping the insulator back in and screwing it in less? Maybe my eyes are betraying me and that's not the case. If I go more than this the insulator pops out.

 

[Zen~]

I have the 510 and I had to fiddle a bit when I first got it. Don't know if this helps but this is how my little silver bit currently sits:View attachment 505425

Back out that screw a little, and push in the black plastic so it's flush with the outer metal ring of the 510 connector.

 

[h00ligan]

Beat me to It

If it helps when I screw it in I turn until I meet resistance hat would require any sort of force and then I make about a quarter turn.

Oh I also Found a t8 driver handles both Allen screws just fine for those who worry about losing the aliens or already did. If you have one of those no risk of stripping or anything that I can see. Works well universally. Though it's not the "supported" tool I figured I'd mention it as I don't want to lose my aliens and like to
Place authentic packaging away so it stays in good shape.

It would be great if @zen tries he 1.2 and Clapton coils and offers his thoughts on them. I'll be buying s pack Of each when available and if anyone wants me to I'll post an opinion. I expect more vapor From One and better flavor from the other. Of course the more vapor may have better flavor and the better flavor may make a bit more vapor too. I'm talking about at designed usage. 3.7-4.3 volts. Obviously wij variable the existing can be pushed.

Less battery power used and sticking to 4.3 or less the 1.2 should kick out about 20% more vapor I'd guess.

 

[kates]

Well I have just adjusted and pushed insulator in - lol, but it's been like that since I got it in august and works perfectly as photo

 

[cllmda]

Hi Zen & everybody ,

Thanks so much for your help with this .

I followed the process you explained above but unfortunately it's still on OP...

However, I think I know now what may be wrong (?)= when I screwed the kabuki back on the P3 the 510 PIN was sticking out a bit .

BUT when I went to take it off and unscrewed the kabuki from the P3 after the failed attempt I noticed that the little pin was no longer protruding at all and seemed to be pushed back in to the level of the metal ring +black ring that hold it.

I tried this process several times, with the same result.
When I screwed the pin in with the little wrench I made sure not too tighten too much , it was still sticking out and seemed to be holding well but apparently it's somehow getting pushed in everytime I screw the kabuki on a PV.
It's not pushed in alot, just enough to be "flat" with the metal ring that holds it and the black ring.But it's definitely no longer sticking out..... and thus probably not making contact ?

Meanwhile,I got an answer from Keith from Creme de vape UK (where Ive been purchasing my Kabuki's) who suggested the following :

"Hello,


Sorry to hear you are having trouble with your Kabuki. This sounds to me like the head is not making contact with your P3 device’s centre post. You can pull out gently on the coil/head’s base part to extend the length a fraction of a mm to help with this. Be careful not to pull the bit out of the head, you just want to move it a tiny bit and then try it again. If that does not work, might be worth trying a new head in the tank, but I think you can most likely get that one working again by doing as I suggested above.




Let me know how you get along OK"


I WILL try his suggestion but I have already changed the coil twice so i dont think the prob is with the coil...???
The same coils are working fine when I switch them into a mini Nautilus and try them on the same P3.

Ok everyone just wanted to let you all know that Keith from Creme de Vape's simple suggestion has WORKED !!!!!

Yeah ,it'll be a bit of a pain to have to pull the ends of my coils out a bit each time i go to change them but...the main thing is

.... my Kabuki is NOW WORKing again !!!! YAYY!!!!

Anyone know what I may have done that caused this so that It doesnt happen again with the brand new Kabuki 510 Im expecting tomorow/day after ?

Thanks so much to Zen for giving his time (I know,from reading this thread that he doesnt have much these days & trying to help me with my little prob

Now I can go back to the pleasanter task of choosing which Provari I will buy next...yes, I so love the kabuki+ p3 combo that i'd decided to replace all my 4-5 current setups (i always keep 4-5 flavors going at the same time. )

Thanks again Everyone!

 

[h00ligan]

I've decided to probably put my provari up for sale. It's really nice it just doesn't fit in well with my vaping. Mostly size and battery capacity. It's a shame because I love he boost and solid power. Maybe I'll
Try their new box mod.

 

[stanleybb50]

Kabuki relevant

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I just saw that the triton mini coils are due out end of month and will fit. At 1.2ohms this could
Be exactly the fill in I'm missing on the kabuki. Just a bit more oomph. Also working well with mech mods. Saved me from ordering too many of the other coils until these are out. I'm really optimistic about them! 1.2 is my target build for kanthal so it will be great to have disposables built to that and the triton coils are stainless steel which I prefer also. Hopefully the mini coils are. These are all supposed to fit the kabuki.

Aspire Triton Mini Replacement 1.2ohm Coil 5pcs(delivery in the late of the Nov) [8335 1.2ohm发热丝] - $16.00 : Aspire online shopping

Also Clapton coils (undo find twisted offers better taste but I've never used a premade twisted or clapton coil id be curious how they are. Men ouch to buy a pack. Aspire Triton Mini Replacement 1.8 Clapton Coil 5pcs(delivery in the late of the Nov) [8335 1.8ohm发热丝] - $17.00 : Aspire online shopping

And temperature control (please can we not argue I'm just posting information. If you don't want to use temp Control don't. Just another coil available.
Aspire Triton Mini Replacement(Temperature Sensing) Ni-200 0.15ohm Coil 5pcs(delivery in the late of the Nov) [8335 0.15ohm NI-200发热丝] - $16.00 : Aspire online shopping


Bottom line is three new coil choices are a plus for people who can use them. Afaik these fit anything they can take a nautilus coil. I hope that's correct
General vaping so skip if you don't care.
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As to low ohm builds here are benefits over higher ohm builds for Lung hitters. But again people who believe the know all on a subject don't want to consider they may be wrong. That goes on all sides. I don't personally prefer lung hitting style of vaping. I do prefer to vape closer to 1 ohm than 2 so for me in the case of the new coils I believe for my usage the triton mini coils will suit better.


I use 26 gauge over 28 sometimes and 30 other times. There are a lot of things to consider when changing gauges. He characteristics of the vapor change with the size of the wire and the build room has something to do with it also. Similarly surface area touching cotton matters. If one wants a low ohm build one is hardly going to
Use a single wrap 28 gauge when one can use five wrap 24 and cover more surface area. That's just one example.

It's unfortunate that people on boards can't or don't wish to consider he way they vape isn't for everyone. This is very present in the cloud club. The normal for vaping now is taking direct king hits. But it's seen al Around.

For me. More surface area with even heating typically means better vape. I use the maximum allowed space over the air intake to achieve that.

I also personally find micro coils overused. Spaced 2.5 mm coils for me offer great flavor, are easy to build properly. Don't rally hot spot, and offer a few other advantages.

Thanks for the reply/thoughts. I'm referring to regulated devices specifically. Not mechanical where there would be a benefit to low ohms.


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[h00ligan]

Maximum 9 left.

I haven't seen these in the tread ...

Thanks for the reply/thoughts. I'm referring to regulated devices specifically. Not mechanical where there would be a benefit to low ohms.


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There are benefits in regulated devices. Battery life. Efficiency of vapor production. Surface area as stated.

Depends how much one wants to product and what style of vaping. Praise of the kabuki I use two mark bugs Gem tanks which I build in kanthal form 1-1.2 it's a tiny deck and I have to use 28 gauge to get the cotton in there I want. But I offset with five spaced wraps. If I wrapped that with 26 gauge contact coil with 8 wraps or so I could get the same resistance but the vape would change. Then there's the Clapton and writes benefit of drawing more justice to cotton. There you are either decreasing resistance or wij a Clapton it takes the interior. Anyway for regulated devices you can still manipulate quite a bit the flavor and vapor produced. Sometimes you're just stuck based on the deck. I don't like dual coil personally I see almost no benefit. And I'm not a cloud chaser. So the stuff I find in benefit regarding different builds doesn't use obnoxiously large wire and super low builds. I'd love to have a 1-1.2 ohm nautilus coil for example. For my regulated. I'm killing batteries like crazy right now and pushing the coils past where they're designed which likely means changing them more.

Amp draw on the battery

1.7 at 5.2v = 8.84amps
1.2 at 4.3 = 5.6 amps

Probably get at least 25%more battery life on a regulated mod. Similar vapor and juice usage. In practical terms of have to really do a study on it by anecdotally staying around 1.2 max on any mod regulated or otherwise has shown me benefits than when I was vaping at 1.8-2.5 including flavor

 

[Katdarling]

I haven't seen these in the tread ...

They are in Zen's store. Here ya go.

https://squareup.com/market/houseofhybrids

 

[cllmda]

Is there any real difference between the P3 threaded Kabuki and the 510 ?

Ive been buying the 510's even though I use them mainly on my P3's, just for the versatility and to keep the option of using it on another battery if necessary ...but ...would getting the P3 threaded kabuki offer me any kind of plus that i would notice ?

 

[Zen~]

I know this will be received by HooLIGAN as an insult, and it's simply not intended to be... but I have to say it.

Vaping should be about pleasure... not math. If every vapor analyzed every tiny detail, down to the exact amperage being drawn from the battery, it would have ZERO% chance of going mainstream.

I'm sure it's just the way he's wired, being an engineer, but it doesn't look to me like he's even having a good time on this vaping journey... it's become an intellectual pursuit rather than one of joy, or pleasure. It's my opinion, please don't shoot the messenger. If he's happy being that way, who am I to say he shouldn't be? But... I just see post after angst filled post, dissecting it further and further apart. It just doesn't look like he's actually enjoying his LIFE as a vaper.

I design vaping gear... but I turn all that off when I vape. I sit back and enjoy it, I don't think about it constantly. When I'm designing, I'm all-in... but when it's time to vape... I sit back... I relax... and I enjoy every minute of it. I don't expect or demand perfection, because honestly, I don't even know what that is. It's an impossible dream.

SO I love what I have, and what I'm vaping, whatever it may be. I find joy in it. I love every minute of it.

I have no clue how many ohms my coil is at... I don't know how many volts or amps... I know the wattage the device claims to be at... but I'm not thinking about it.

I vape with my senses... I love every minute of it.

I kinda wish he could find the joy in vaping that I have, so he can let go of the intellectual pursuit and enjoy it. I really do.

I mean NO OFFENSE by this... It's my wish for him to find what he's looking for so he can enjoy it, like many of us already do.

 

[Angus T Rat]

Is there any real difference between the P3 threaded Kabuki and the 510 ?

Ive been buying the 510's even though I use them mainly on my P3's, just for the versatility and to keep the option of using it on another battery if necessary ...but ...would getting the P3 threaded kabuki offer me any kind of plus that i would notice ?

Yes, the bottom of the coil directly contacts the P3 positive pin…there's no intermediate parts like the 510 or z2

 

[h00ligan]

I don't take any offense. I like knowing settings that maximize my enjoyment but I don't obsess about it. I was simply trying to share some information online. Which constitutes a very small amount of time related to vaping There was a discussion happening. So I felt I'd offer some factual feedback. Certainly knowing what works best for me helps me. The rest of the information was simply presented as information for others. In an existing conversation I didn't start. I've been posting very little whilst vaping a great deal lately

I enjoy my life vaping greatly. You're seeing a very small section of that. And it's a hobby side of things which also brings me enjoyment. The part of understanding which wires present which characteristics l. How the builds can change flavor. Vapor etc. Etc I enjoy that as much as the act of vaping and trying new juices (though I'm getting tired of bad overpriced juices)

I vape my preferred juices. I enjoy that I'm not a smoker now. I enjoy getting that perfect build with my perfect juice and tasting smelling etc. that brings me great pleasure.

I don't feel it necessary to preclude any discussion of technicals or gear and only stick to that. And particularly this thread isn't really about the enjoyment of vaping it's about a piece of gear.

I wouldn't have mentioned any of this were here not w conversation discussing it already. Sharing knowledge is predominantly what the forums are about imo.

Otherwise this thread would be

" I like the kabuki"

Me to

X 1000

@zen where's a good thread revolving around the enjoyment of vaping and what constitutes the topics? Juices?

Nice engraved caps you made. By the way.

Anyway don't assume because I think about it technically I'm incapable of enjoying it. His is a very small crossection. Sure I like some gear better than others and I don't enjoy vaping anything. That would be ridiculous. Crap juice Ina. Crap setup wouldn't yield much pleasure

I also appreciate design acumen. Especially as an artist myself.

Kind of reminds me
Of a conversation in a Leica forum. Tech question gets posted. And answered but then someone comes along and says why don't you just shoot. When the guy answering the question just got back from a 1000 photo safari and just happened to answer a question.

Anyway. Questions were posted. I thought I'd attempt a cohesive answer to a technical question. I'm not sure why you'd think that means I don't enjoy vaping and it's all I think about. But consider yourself corrected and no insult taken.

 

[stanleybb50]

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[Andy N]

So Zen, I know you said you don't pay attention to the particulars but if u did what would u say generally u Vape the kabuki at? Watts etc. hard drag vs light drag, air control tight loose or do u maybe completely remove it? I've been having a hard time w it the last few days (taste and atomizer life havent been quite right and im getting discouraged) and would appreciate yours and anyone else's input on how they Vape the kabuki. I will be out for the evening so I won't be able to respond til late but really want this to work for me. Thanks all!!!

 

[guinnesstime]

I'm using a 1.6 coil at 13.6W. Airflow about two full turns. 3-4 second draws.


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[Andy N]

I'm using a 1.6 coil at 13.6W. Airflow about two full turns. 3-4 second draws.


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And how's flavor? Atomizer life break in etc