Anybody Using A Kabuki?

[h00ligan]

Power is power?

Therein lies the problem...

The quality of the power makes a bigger difference than many want to believe.

The very fact that you need to run your Kabuki at 4 watts higher than nearly any of the Provape users run theirs at should be telling you something.

And by the way you have two logical fallacies going on here.

Argumentum ad populum and red herring.

What it could mean that the istick is chugging along at 16 and firing me perfectly is

istick outputs power more pure,y
Provari interpretation of power is odd
Coil I got handles power better than many others produced
I may prefer a taste you consider burnt
You may prefer a Taste I consider bland


There's nothing at all indicated by the fact I'm firing 3 watts higher, not even remotely. All it means is a situation needs analyzing.

Can anyone link to the power output of the new provari we are discussing here. To any independent tests that have been completed...

 

[h00ligan]

If you could translate this to English, that sure would be useful.

Forget that and read up I edited. I have a very hard time keeping up at this rate with my hands and eyes and it's actually starting to really cause me issues. So I'll be happy to continue his in a bit but I need to take a break for health reasons. Like I said before the brain and spine surgery are. Needed for precisely some of what you're seeing now.

Im enjoying this. I really am. Sorry I have to go for a bit. If anyone can provide factual data id love to start reading and comparing to yihi 350j data and dna40 /200 data. I'm curious how provaris 40 watts golds up to a much less expensive now DNA40

 

[Moxienator]

ProVari had "cleaner" power

I was lurking on the radius thread. Little did they know I learned their secret! ITS ALL IN THE SPECIES OF HAMSTER!!!

Maybe he drives a train... That's an engineer too, right?

I'm a Stationary (Power) Engineer! Does that mean I'm an Electrical Engineer too? Sweet! ...er....

 

[Moxienator]

to argue a single cell in a mech mod isn't the magic touch

...eh? For you mayhaps.....

 

[AstroTurf]

Removed

Uncalled for!!!

Jim


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[h00ligan]

Removed

Ive been through this you (no, no, noooo please)

I need brain surgery and my hands aren't working properly. Sorry if that gets in the way. If you wait five minutes

Never mind. Even when I'm having a real conversation the idiots are out. this isn't the place for me. And as for zen I thought we were going to have a reasonable conversation and we were over everyone else.

Then you made another comment.

See how well you guys type in my situation.


Later

 

[Moxienator]

You know what? I don't believe there is trolling going on, based on recent activity.

 

[h00ligan]

Trolls don't buy products clue one

 

[Moxienator]

I need brain surgery and my hands aren't working properly. Sorry if that gets in the way. If you wait five minutes

Never mind. Even when I'm having a real conversation the idiots are out. this isn't the place for me. And as for zen I thought we were going to have a reasonable conversation and we were over everyone else.

Then you made another comment.

See how well you guys type in my situation.


Later

Sometimes in these threads, the flame wars erupt. I've witnessed the Provape threads blowing up with trolls. I understand you are not one. If you ever get a chance (for a laugh) go through some of their threads and see what usually happens. Its crazy. I apologize for thinking you were purposefully antagonizing people.

 

[Moxienator]

Trolls don't buy products clue one

Fair.

 

[WillyZee]

@h00ligan ... I also tried for a long time to figure out what set the ProVari and their chip apart from the others.

A good place to start ... try searching for negative reviews

 

[classwife]

Whoa !

Time for a little iced tea break in here

 

[h00ligan]

The parts are half baked because I'm in the middle of being attached by there people or the typos? That's why I was volunteering to leave. My symptoms were getting worse and I couldn't coordinate or get my hands to work or my brain to see what's written vs what I feel should be written.

then after I already explained what was happening and apologized for it you came in and popped off your mouth like a twelve year old chicken.... yelling after the big guy who decided not to punch you.

I was already leaving and I'm well aware of my shortcomings. I'm having serious surgeries to correct them. And I've spent the last bloody eight hours in here being attacked for making statements asking questions and trying to participate.
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A discussion of power broke out and what I said is true without fact sheets of pure output we don't know what's causing what. Anything else is an assumption.

So final question if someone could help. Then you'll al, just be rid of me - What's the situation with the black insulator on the 510 popping out when the hex screw is screwed in. Should the hex screw be screwed in before the atomizer head or after and roughly how tight if so. That bottom insulator is coming out every time I screw the pin in.


Man after I got this I wa stoked and thinking at least one more. Made things right with Zen I thought. Then I started getting insulted again, even by zen.

So yah. I'd appreciate at final bit of knowledge if someone can muster the help so I can at least use the one I have. Test it with temp coils and proper testing procedure. And I won't be back to interrupt your thread again

And by the way. I called you a * **. As in I typed the stars. Lol. There was no word. It showed exactly how it was typed. Which makes it funnier.

 

[h00ligan]

@h00ligan ... I also tried for a long time to figure out what set the ProVari and their chip apart from the others.

A good place to start ... try searching for negative reviews

I think the best place is to examine the actual power output. People do seem to love them I'm interested in why. I want to see how it outputs different than say a dna 40

The punch modes etc are available on most modern devices of this price range.

 

[Moxienator]

And by the way. I called you a * **. As in I typed the stars. Lol. There was no word. It showed exactly how it was typed. Which makes it funnier.

That was great! I spent a few minutes trying to figure out what it was!

 

[Moxienator]

What's the situation with the black insulator on the 510 popping out when the hex screw is screwed in. Should the hex screw be screwed in before the atomizer head or after and roughly how tight if so. That bottom insulator is coming out every time I screw the pin in.

I'm not sure, buddy. Mine is Z2. My guess would be just tight enough to make contact with the coil when it is screwed down. Maybe screw in a coil and then tighten up the 510 pin. I assume the hex screw is the positive contact? Why did it need to be played with in the first place?

anyone got a 510 Kabuki and some answers?

 

[tearose50]

@h00ligan01 Yes, this is in the ProVape section of the forum and there are many people here who are fond of their ProVape products. Yes, there are brand loyalists. Is it avid fanboism? -- maybe for some, but not most. Mostly loyalty and support is because the company has built an excellent reputation for products of quality, durability, excellent function, and safety in mind. Dare I say energizer bunny of mods--or perhaps the Maytag of devices. With 1/2 of one percent of the devices sold ever returning "home" for any repairs shows clearly that what users say has merit and the reputation is well earned through the past 5-6 years.

I was using a Kabuki on one of my fairly nice out and about mods. My Radius arrived and I switched the still warm Kabuki to it and instantly -- smoother, nicer, more flavor. That is what ProVi is about --- a good smooth vape, every time, from fresh battery to the blinky light telling you it's time to charge.

And, no one doesn't have to own a ProVape product to discuss the Kabuki. Radius & Kabuki is a sweet combo, for sure, but it's more important to get you grooved into your Kabuki!

 

[JUMA55]

Good PVs do not make a rattlesnake sound. That's a sign of a poor quality regulator.

AND as far as blind testing... you're on... that tank was designed using Double Blind testing... with a LOT of test subjects. There isn't any "stick in your thumb, pull out a plum" engineering in this... The design of the tank was started in late August of 2014, and hit dealer shelves in May of 2015... From august until mid February we had so many double blind and ABX tests and thousands of man hours compiling data before the design was finalized. It was tested on over 250 different mods... and the need for temp limiting is obviated if you use the device in the optimum range of the coil.

Zen, what do you consider the optimum range to be? And does the range vary with PG/VG ratio? So for example, I vaped a 50-/50 juice at 8 watts, what wattage for a 20/80 juice? Thanks.

 

[h00ligan]

There are hundreds of thousands of people that didn't want to believe ProVari had "cleaner" power, that now use the devices, and they WILL not fall for false claims of "more is better"

QUALITY is better... A better regulated supply is better. A supply that ACTUALLY puts out the power that it claims to is better.

There is a "smoothness" to a ProVari that absolutely NO other device has approached, and not even the Mighty DNA gives such a result, and when you consider that I build devices with the DNA board (though, none with temp control) that should also be telling you something. I'm in the ProVape forum, Vaping a ProVari as I type this.

And Phil is great to watch, but... he's not an "engineer" in the sense that he's not an EE... Not sure what his observations will do for you. Maybe he drives a train... That's an engineer too, right?

So there you go.

Can you show me the technical process of proving this along with the graphs and charts that do so and were provided by a third party not affiliate?

I have no idea if this is true or not. I'd need to see data

Where do these claims come from. What's the source data? I'd be very interested in seeing how this works and learning more about it than what listed in marketing material. I'd like to see actual tests.
I never disqualified them as being better. Nor did I ever say power is power. I am aware of clean vs dirty power. All I was doing is asking for data to examine so I could decide if trying one was for me.

There is by and large brand loyalty all over these boards. As in life in general. Some people swear fiat is a good car, some people swear Rolex is top dog...so after buying a fair bit of stuff I try to do research now and understand why.

I'm open to provari instead of a new temp control mod. I'm not necessarily in the market for either now. The most important thing to me right now is SIZE. I want a great flavor kit that can easily be put in jeans pocket without looking like I'm carrying a weapon.

I know the older tube provari were quite small I didn't see dimensions on this. It may well fit the bill. I just want more info and to have. A decent conversation without people effective,y shouting insults at me or asking rhetorical questions etc.

 

[Moxienator]

Oh yeah. RAYGUN!!!

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