Anybody Using A Kabuki?

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Ugh!!! Hope your showroom will be back in order soon Zen.

Lots of very good guesses. Since it is a prototype that Zen has been vaping with I would have to think it is something totally different and possibly nothing to do with color or material. Because of this I would like a black 510 Kabuki even though this isn't it. Limited release sounds special. My guess then is a RTA or similar.
 

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Sitting here thinking of Zen/HOH, and what a mess they have. Hoping they pull thru this and come back Strong!

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Well, Zen~ mentioned that the Kabuki has been a great seller. And there's folks like me who are waiting patiently for the GMZ and/or d'elegance to come back into stock (not gonna miss it a second time...unless this new tease leafs me astray. So, I will be doing my little bit to help HoH get over the hump. Wish it was just a situation of me scoring some nice gear from a great domestic manufacturer as I was trying to when I went to order d'elegance to find it sold out a couple hours earlier.
 

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The Kabuki's most important part is made by another company. And that company seems to be headed in a different direction.

Nautilus coils will prolly still be available on some level for a little while but will be come more difficult to find gradualy until they are gone.

So I guessing a new deck that uses one of the coils that will be available moving forward.
 

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The Kabuki's most important part is made by another company. And that company seems to be headed in a different direction.

Nautilus coils will prolly still be available on some level for a little while but will be come more difficult to find gradualy until they are gone.

So I guessing a new deck that uses one of the coils that will be available moving forward.
But wouldn't this just be a perpetuation of a possible obsolescence of others made coils?!?
 

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Yes!!

The thats the cost of being in the pre built game when supply of the most important part is controlled by others.

Making it rebuild able kinda kills what it's market is. If your in this class of tank and can and want to build you prolly already have a Kayfun.
 

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Are you Zen's engineer? And I have to repeat what I've said twice now... other tank makers manage to avoid this problem.

I'm way behind in reading this thread, so pardon me if this has already been said. I haven't kept track, but I might broken more Kabuki tanks in the last six months that I've been using them than I did other tanks over a similar time period. I haven't kept score. However, the Kabuki is the ONLY tank I've ever used than has never once leaked a drop of juice. I can go from from hot to cold, inside or out, and it's the only one that when I pick it up itis not running down my hand like a melting ice cream cone. It's also the only one I can stick in a pocket all day and not worry that it looks to the world that I wet myself. That's worth a few extra bucks for new tanks to me.
 

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The Kabuki's most important part is made by another company. And that company seems to be headed in a different direction.

Nautilus coils will prolly still be available on some level for a little while but will be come more difficult to find gradualy until they are gone.

This is what I am afraid of, and why I have bought a couple of rebuildables, even though I have zero comfort level with tem.

I'm way behind in reading this thread, so pardon me if this has already been said. I haven't kept track, but I might broken more Kabuki tanks in the last six months that I've been using them than I did other tanks over a similar time period. I haven't kept score. However, the Kabuki is the ONLY tank I've ever used than has never once leaked a drop of juice. I can go from from hot to cold, inside or out, and it's the only one that when I pick it up itis not running down my hand like a melting ice cream cone. It's also the only one I can stick in a pocket all day and not worry that it looks to the world that I wet myself. That's worth a few extra bucks for new tanks to me.

The only leaking issue I have had with the Kabuki is occasionally from the base, i.e. I'll set the tank on my desk, pick it up a little while later and see some liquid left behind. Usually I just attribute it to the coil and change it, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know what makes a tank/coil leak from the bottom like that.
 
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The Kabuki's most important part is made by another company. And that company seems to be headed in a different direction.

Nautilus coils will prolly still be available on some level for a little while but will be come more difficult to find gradualy until they are gone.

So I guessing a new deck that uses one of the coils that will be available moving forward.
Hmm...
Could be a very wise move or not. I'm not in the biz, so I don't know. But, that idea makes me think about the fact that Zen has sung the praises of the nautilus coils in the past. It seems he has made his decision to go with the Naut after serious research. If he were looking to save himself from nautilus dependency I can think of three new design features that would avoid being in the same boat in the future.

1. HoH could get into coil business, either directly or through contracting (imagine a US made prebuilt coil).

2. A user swappable coil chassis. A threaded (or otherwise removable) ring between the coil and the rest if the base. Visualize the 510/P3 dual ring. Kabuki ships with Nautilus ring. Spend a couple of bucks and get a ring that fits another coil. No Nautilus? no problem. Wanna try a new coil? Go ahead.

Or...

3. Introducing the Semi RTA.
A chassis that screws in like a coil or build deck. The form is similar to a Naut coil (don't want to take up too much precious space in there). But instead of housing a little 2 post deck (can't imagine that build), there is a way to easily swap out coils. Prebuilt coils are cheap and plentiful. Stuffing cotton in them is easy. If a design could be realized that takes away the fiddling with screwdrivers part, it could be a winner. Pre built coils are cheap enough to be disposable. Wick your new coil before inserting and make it even easier for folks that aren't into building.
 

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Hmm...
Could be a very wise move or not. I'm not in the biz, so I don't know. But, that idea makes me think about the fact that Zen has sung the praises of the nautilus coils in the past. It seems he has made his decision to go with the Naut after serious research. If he were looking to save himself from nautilus dependency I can think of three new design features that would avoid being in the same boat in the future.

1. HoH could get into coil business, either directly or through contracting (imagine a US made prebuilt coil).

2. A user swappable coil chassis. A threaded (or otherwise removable) ring between the coil and the rest if the base. Visualize the 510/P3 dual ring. Kabuki ships with Nautilus ring. Spend a couple of bucks and get a ring that fits another coil. No Nautilus? no problem. Wanna try a new coil? Go ahead.

Or...

3. Introducing the Semi RTA.
A chassis that screws in like a coil or build deck. The form is similar to a Naut coil (don't want to take up too much precious space in there). But instead of housing a little 2 post deck (can't imagine that build), there is a way to easily swap out coils. Prebuilt coils are cheap and plentiful. Stuffing cotton in them is easy. If a design could be realized that takes away the fiddling with screwdrivers part, it could be a winner. Pre built coils are cheap enough to be disposable. Wick your new coil before inserting and make it even easier for folks that aren't into building.

I've made a couple of stabs at building in the past but found that I'm no longer interested in fiddling with small things that make my hands ache.

Pbusardo's latest review covers a new GG tank and it's pretty interesting for people like me. They call it a spring tank. You simply make the coil to a certain diameter and it drops into a saddle with semicircular cutouts. No screws, no threading legs into miniscule holes (in fact, no legs at all), and no making sure your connections are tight.

While I don't think I'd invest that much money in something I might not want to use, it made me realize that RBAs have a lot of room to improve since little new thought has occurred since the move away from the Genesis mesh method.

While that may not be what Mike is working on, I have full faith he'd be able to make a significant impact on coil building if he ever decides to.

Since he's previously stated the reason for the Kabuki was to get away from all the fuss involved in building coils, I don't think a Kabuki RDA is in the works. I guess I'm leaning towards a TI model even though the tooling is a major cost increase.

But I'd love to see a US maker of coils. I had high hopes for a company recently (the name escapes me) and bought a few various boxes. But despite their glowing descriptions as to why they were a major improvement they were inferior in just about every way.
 

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I'm way behind in reading this thread, so pardon me if this has already been said. I haven't kept track, but I might broken more Kabuki tanks in the last six months that I've been using them than I did other tanks over a similar time period. I haven't kept score. However, the Kabuki is the ONLY tank I've ever used than has never once leaked a drop of juice. I can go from from hot to cold, inside or out, and it's the only one that when I pick it up itis not running down my hand like a melting ice cream cone. It's also the only one I can stick in a pocket all day and not worry that it looks to the world that I wet myself. That's worth a few extra bucks for new tanks to me.


Hmm..... Im real happy to see that Im not alone there ;)

My cat knocks over a lot of my P3+kabukis so thats the number one cause of breakage at my house BUT not the only one,Ive also broken several myself (a brand new one last night,just unscrewing it to fill...and I have small hands, no strength..In my whole life of vaping previous to the kabuki I have only ever broken ONE tank... but I must have bought over 15 replacement kabuki tanks since November...)

Anyway those problems are (maybe)over now anyway, FT is selling five packs of tanks for 6 $, Spectrum is making pyrex tanks (not cheap, but hopefully will last longer ...)

Anyway at least now there are other options, even though ,up until now, I have accepted to pay the high price for the replacement glass tanks because the vape quality is so great on the Kabuki + glass tank ;)
 

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Hmm..... Im real happy to see that Im not alone there ;)

My cat knocks over a lot of my P3+kabukis so thats the number one cause of breakage at my house BUT not the only one,Ive also broken several myself (a brand new one last night,just unscrewing it to fill...and I have small hands, no strength..In my whole life of vaping previous to the kabuki I have only ever broken ONE tank... but I must have bought over 15 replacement kabuki tanks since November...)

Anyway those problems are (maybe)over now anyway, FT is selling five packs of tanks for 6 $, Spectrum is making pyrex tanks (not cheap, but hopefully will last longer ...)

Anyway at least now there are other options, even though ,up until now, I have accepted to pay the high price for the replacement glass tanks because the vape quality is so great on the Kabuki + glass tank ;)

CL:

Since the Kabuki isn't known to leak, (One of the few that doesn't), why put them in a position to be knocked over? Why not simply lay the device on its side rather than standing, just waiting to fallover and break? My Kabuki has NEVER leaked and if on a Provari 2.5, is always laid on its side, The radius is left standing, but I no longer have a Cat. But I still have to watch out for my Wife. LOL---:lol:

For the poster that said his leaks, try not to inadvertently blow back thru it when taking a draw. this is about the only way to make one leak, unless you are using extremely thin juice. ;)
 
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Damn, damn and damn!!! I dropped my P3 Kabuki! And the quartz tank did not shatter. No, it's worse! Fell on a tiled floor and the impact must have been on the steel because its slightly out of alignment when screwing it on to my Provi. I have to use that Kabuki allen key to swivel it around to get it on to the Provi. AAARHGGH!!
 
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Damn, damn and damn!!! I dropped my P3 Kabuki! And the quartz tank did not shatter. No, it's worse! Fell on a tiled floor and the impact must have been on the steel because its slightly out of alignment when screwing it on to my Provi. I have to use that Kabuki allen key to swivel it around to get it on to the Provi. AAARHGGH!!
Did you take a close look to make sure it's not the tank but maybe the top of the ProVari that's a little lifted causing the unalignment?

Note 5!!!
 
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Did you take a close look to make sure it's not the tank but maybe the top of the ProVari that's a little lifted causing the unalignment?

Note 5!!!
Tried it on two P3s and my Radius. Same problem so its the tank, I'm afraid. But it did make me feel better to vent it on 237,949 members of this thread here!
 
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The Kabuki's most important part is made by another company. And that company seems to be headed in a different direction.

Nautilus coils will prolly still be available on some level for a little while but will be come more difficult to find gradualy until they are gone.

So I guessing a new deck that uses one of the coils that will be available moving forward.
Hopefully the Nautilus coils will be produced for a good long while, I can't see Aspire just dropping them as long as there are so many tanks out there and customers needing them, they probably make more money in the long run off of the coil sales than they do from the atomizers. I do, however still plan on stocking up on them, and if I can get enough for two or three years use put away, the daily cost of using the Kabuki tanks goes down to pennies per day. Heck, at one years time in use, a 90$ Kabuki costs .25 cent per day.
 

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Probably not a possibility, but with Zen you never know. It would be cool to have a high end tank like the Kabuki, that could be sort of universal coil deal. Take the Kanger Subtank mini, I can use PT2, PT3, Evod, and Aspire BVC's, and of course the proprietary heads. They all work, work quite well, and none of them leak for me, even running 60/40 and 65/35 PG/VG blends.
 
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