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zoiDman

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But-but, my DIY freezer is only 12 cubic feet!

Just right for a few thousand ML of nic base, a few gallons of PG & VG, and a few chicken pot pies.

What? No Stouffer's Lasagna?

Gotta have a Few of these Laying Around.

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WOW!!!! That is 62,994.00 in liquid!!! Do you own a chain of stores or something? Lottery winner by chance? lol
Perhaps it's a speculative investment?

BTW, it is not necessary to be a lottery winner to have that kind of money looking a return on (or return of) investment. Some people who have that kind of money actually earned it the old fashioned way -- they started a business, worked hard, hired people, etc.
 
Perhaps it's a speculative investment?

BTW, it is not necessary to be a lottery winner to have that kind of money looking a return on (or return of) investment. Some people who have that kind of money actually earned it the old fashioned way -- they started a business, worked hard, hired people, etc.

As I thought as well, lottery comment was in jest...and if chellemmm is wrong, he will be a very rich man if hes not already.
 

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    Perhaps it's a speculative investment?

    BTW, it is not necessary to be a lottery winner to have that kind of money looking a return on (or return of) investment. Some people who have that kind of money actually earned it the old fashioned way -- they started a business, worked hard, hired people, etc.

    Did that once, only I kept buying, and kept buying, and kinda forgot about the selling part. Ended up with about 50 Porsches siting around, and wondering where I was going to find the money for dinner.
     
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    Personally the only thing you really have to worry about is nicotine even that is iffy . I really don't think they will be banning anything just higher prices when they get done taxing everything.

    That's likely what this is boiling down to. Decreasing tobacco use means less taxes coming in for politicians to fund their projects & keep their friends good jobs.

    I don't see nicotine e-juice becoming less available, just more costly due to taxation. Probably restrictions on some ingredients, which could take a few flavors off the shelves.

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    Did that once, only I kept buying, and kept buying, and kinda forgot about the selling part. Ended up with about 50 Porsches siting around, and wondering where I was going to find the money for dinner.

    Having 50 Porsches Laying Around doesn't seem to be all that Bad of an Investment.

    It Blows my Mind what some of them Go For in Restored or Semi-Restored Condition.
     
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    That's likely what this is boiling down to. Decreasing tobacco use means less taxes coming in for politicians to fund their projects & keep their friends good jobs.

    I don't see nicotine e-juice becoming less available, just more costly due to taxation. Probably restrictions on some ingredients, which could take a few flavors off the shelves.

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    I wholeheartedly believe and hope you are 100% correct! If some flavors are proven to be toxic, Ill be glad to see them go, just don't want to be constricted to tobacco flavors and cigalikes.
    I love my sweet vapes on my dripper and Nemi...Its BLISS!!:vapor:
     

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    Perhaps it's a speculative investment?

    BTW, it is not necessary to be a lottery winner to have that kind of money looking a return on (or return of) investment. Some people who have that kind of money actually earned it the old fashioned way -- they started a business, worked hard, hired people, etc.

    Isn't that what Many of the Smaller Nicotine Base Sellers are Doing? Buying in Bulk from a USA Supplier and then Rebottling it for Web Sales.

    Many People only Consider that something like Nicotine Base comes from China. And that a Seller is Making a Killing on it because they Bought it Directly from the OEM.

    Where Many Times, the Product that they Purchased went thru a Couple of Hands, each putting their Own Markup on it.

    With the Looming Regulations and the Exponential Growth in DIY, I Can't for see Nicotine Base Prices getting Much Lower than thy Are Today.
     

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    My personal concern for getting into DIY liquids and coils isn't about the FDA. Yeah, I worry about that, of course, but like has been said, regulations for people who DIY won't be as devestating as they could be for those who don't. At the same time, I'm less worried about the FDA because as I see it, they have been trying for years to find something that would 'stick' to shut down indi vapor stores and regulate the industry and so far have been unable to.

    the reason I got into all of the DIY possibilities is purely cost considerations. It makes vaping SOOOO affordable.
     

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    Having 50 Porsches Laying Around doesn't seem that all that Bad of an Investment.

    It Blows my Mind what some of them Go For in Restored or Semi-Restored Condition.

    In the end, they fed my family well. However I did find that there was more profit in restoring one after it was sold than selling one already restored.

    Same premise as mixing juice to order instead of selling pre-mixed.
     
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    ... I'm less worried about the FDA because as I see it, they have been trying for years to find something that would 'stick' to shut down indi vapor stores and regulate the industry and so far have been unable to.

    ...

    Unfortunately, I think this Picture sums up How I feel about the Current e-Cigarette Market.

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    In the end, they fed my family well. However I did find that there was more profit in restoring one after it was sold than selling one already restored.

    I Can't think of Anything Cooler (Car-Wise) that Restoring an Old Porch or a Karman Ghia or a VW Sun Bus.

    But it takes a Lot of Time. And a Place to Do It.

    Many People will Pay Big Money to have a Car Restored the way they Want it.
     
    My personal concern for getting into DIY liquids and coils isn't about the FDA. Yeah, I worry about that, of course, but like has been said, regulations for people who DIY won't be as devestating as they could be for those who don't. At the same time, I'm less worried about the FDA because as I see it, they have been trying for years to find something that would 'stick' to shut down indi vapor stores and regulate the industry and so far have been unable to.

    the reason I got into all of the DIY possibilities is purely cost considerations. It makes vaping SOOOO affordable.

    Exactly!!! As I said, I'm 'Kinda prepping" and making my vape much cheaper at the same time.... I figured while I was ordering to DIY, Id get the most bang for my buck and start a "stash" so went with a gallon of each PG /VG and and 500ml of 100mg nic base. No one knows what is going to happen so it all speculation and opinion right now, "I think" is ok till your wrong and spending thousands vs hundreds for the same volume,just sayn. --->IF<---nic base, because of how far it goes in the juice making process, goes thru the roof, or becomes "outlawed" all together, I'll be happy I have plenty at a reasonable price.
    A black market will make it more expensive than the FDA ever could IMO
     
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    as I said earlier ... the final dagger may be when the FDA makes it illegal to add food flavouring to PG/VG nicotine for the purpose of inhalation.

    that's when the fat lady will start singing :blink:

    As Long as one can still buy Liquid e-Liquids, adding your Own Flavoring/Sweeteners is a Hurdle that Most Should be Able to Overcome.

    But Notice that I said "As Long".

    Isn't the Real Fear that the FDA could Consider a Pre-Filled Carto/Clearo as the Only Vehicle to get e-Liquids?
     

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    as I said earlier ... the final dagger may be when the FDA makes it illegal to add food flavouring to PG/VG nicotine for the purpose of inhalation.

    that's when the fat lady will start singing :blink:

    I see absolutly no way they could control that, except for the fact that it would shut down the mom&pop vapor juice vendors. While I agree that would be horrible and unfair, it won't stop anyone from making their own without banning the sale of flavorings and pg/vg which they aren't likely to do. Of course, it could happen, but I really don't see it being likely.
     

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