got the other echo from DPUT today and wow...every time i take a puff on it i am so pumped the way the battery works. the first unit i got about a week ago i gave to a friend and now i finally got my own! 90 drops into the carto (didnt use a syringe, probably wouldnt even if i had one) so im guessing 3 ml if 30 drops are roughly 1 ml. if i take a drip tip off the echo, the unit is just as long as the ego 900mh battery with a drip tip.im suspecting that i will use close to 2 carto fills/day. ah this thing is nice!!
Anyone else tried the new Echo?
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Dam! 2 cartos a day, that's 6 ml a day! You must look like dirty thunder in a cloud coming down the road.
I don't know how your getting 12 hours on one carto, I have to refill after a while to keep mine fresh it seems, I have been using a couple different fill techniques but the 801 Drip tip seems to work quite well for me, just a few drops in order to freshen up the taste and good to go for me, I like the flat rubber tips they come with too these Echo's are really nice. The Batts I'm really liking even more or I should say the same as the Echo Carto, this is a cool unit, whoever thought this one up did a nice Job
I get just a few drops short of 3 ml on my refills. I don't find much change in the vapor for me until right about time to refill. I love the battery too. I would think mechanics or guys using their hands all day and are use to holding a cigarette in their mouth while they work would really like the autos. I find myself using it in that manner more and more. It is a little heavy to use it by clenching it with your teeth alot but I would think the 650's would work good that way.
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That was fast only took two days to get here and with the riva batt with the echo carto man very sweet.Just right for me because some of my mods look strange enough as it. And I don't like a pv with the led on the tip of the batt."Toy cig" Anyways thanks a lot cropduster great combo for me!
That is great you got it already. You got the Riva 1100 echo kit didn't you? I'm sure my e-cartos should be here today to try on my Riva. It takes a day or two more for me to get stuff out here in the boonies!
Darn I need to get another pc,pain in the .... trying to post from my blackberry.Yes I got the riva-echo kit.What shocked me was how fast it got here I'm about 2,000 miles away from T.
So far so good it seems to draw somewhat smoother than the gogo and gives you agreat th.Tons of vapor and the carto seems to make my juce taste a little better than it did with my gogo.But its early in the game,give me a few days with it.
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Just the guy I'm looking for, someone with both the 650 and 1300. I've had my 1300 for a couple of weeks now and loving it. Received my 650's today and am disappointed. The 650 requires a harder draw, and produces less vapor than the 1300. The 1300 fires with the slightest hint of a draw, but the 650 frequently doesn't fire at all without a good primer puff. Love the portability of the 650, but not impressed with it's performance. Have you noticed any difference in your's?
Just the guy I'm looking for, someone with both the 650 and 1300. I've had my 1300 for a couple of weeks now and loving it. Received my 650's today and am disappointed. The 650 requires a harder draw, and produces less vapor than the 1300. The 1300 fires with the slightest hint of a draw, but the 650 frequently doesn't fire at all without a good primer puff. Love the portability of the 650, but not impressed with it's performance. Have you noticed any difference in your's?
OK - 1300 in chrome came in - sweet looking
, I don't honestly notice much difference between draw and vapor between the 650 & 1300. Both are very good for me.
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Just the guy I'm looking for, someone with both the 650 and 1300. I've had my 1300 for a couple of weeks now and loving it. Received my 650's today and am disappointed. The 650 requires a harder draw, and produces less vapor than the 1300. The 1300 fires with the slightest hint of a draw, but the 650 frequently doesn't fire at all without a good primer puff. Love the portability of the 650, but not impressed with it's performance. Have you noticed any difference in your's?
OK - 1300 in chrome came in - sweet looking
The Chrome 1300's are nice!
|/QUOTE|OK - 1300 in chrome came in - sweet looking , I don't honestly notice much difference between draw and vapor between the 650 & 1300. Both are very good for me.[/QUOTE]
Alright, I definitely have a couple of duds here. I can get decent vapor once I get them to "fire", but it takes an unnaturally hard draw to get them to "fire". I notice it helps if I plug a couple of the air intakes, but that shouldn't be necessary. It definitely isn't necessary with the 1300's. Think I'll talk to Cropduster.com and see what they have to say.
, I don't honestly notice much difference between draw and vapor between the 650 & 1300. Both are very good for me.[/QUOTE]Alright, I definitely have a couple of duds here. I can get decent vapor once I get them to "fire", but it takes an unnaturally hard draw to get them to "fire". I notice it helps if I plug a couple of the air intakes, but that shouldn't be necessary. It definitely isn't necessary with the 1300's. Think I'll talk to Cropduster.com and see what they have to say.
|/QUOTE|OK - 1300 in chrome came in - sweet looking
Alright, I definitely have a couple of duds here. I can get decent vapor once I get them to "fire", but it takes an unnaturally hard draw to get them to "fire". I notice it helps if I plug a couple of the air intakes, but that shouldn't be necessary. It definitely isn't necessary with the 1300's. Think I'll talk to Cropduster.com and see what they have to say.[/QUOTE]
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I've had to do it with my 1300's 'Gel Drops", to me the 4 slots are airy compared to what I like for draw but it's really no big deal to wrap a piece of electrical tape around the connection for me. I wished they would make them with just 2 slots on the cartos I think they would be better, who knows maybe they will. I also use mostly all VG and one juice works fine and another is tougher to make work, Every carto isn't going to be the same no matter what brand you get in my opinion some will work better than others it's the QC that counts, and that's where the quality comes in also in my opinion. So Far though I'm very happy with my Echo 1300's the Auto Batts work excellent and the cartos are working very good too for me all in all it's a thumbs up for me with Echo's
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Hard to figure what would cause that with two batteries. I don't have any 650's but all four of my 1300's are working good. Hope you get it figured out. Keep us posted.
At the end of the day it is kinda simple I have got a boat load of diff pv,s mods ect and every one of them has there good points and there bad ones,kinda like do you like a kool or a marlboro.Some people love the Tank type pv,s some swear by a big carto type or the dual coal atty,s .Myself I don't just use one type of any pv on any given day I may use a box mod the gogo or the maxi rs all in one day.I like them all I would take the worst pv on the market over any nasty .... stinking analog anyday!
I've had to do it with my 1300's 'Gel Drops", to me the 4 slots are airy compared to what I like for draw but it's really no big deal to wrap a piece of electrical tape around the connection for me. I wished they would make them with just 2 slots on the cartos I think they would be better, who knows maybe they will. I also use mostly all VG and one juice works fine and another is tougher to make work, Every carto isn't going to be the same no matter what brand you get in my opinion some will work better than others it's the QC that counts, and that's where the quality comes in also in my opinion. So Far though I'm very happy with my Echo 1300's the Auto Batts work excellent and the cartos are working very good too for me all in all it's a thumbs up for me with Echo's[/QUOTE]
I've been trying out the echo-e carto all day today and it is working real good with a 1000 mah ego. The air hole on the echo-e are not cut quite as deep as they are on the standard Echo and hence it has a little tighter draw. Maybe they were listening to you. lol
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Sounds good txt I'll have to grab me some of them, hahaha, still using my electrical tape on my Echo but they work great and ya gotta love those Echo manual Batts.
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