anyone know how to test for oil?

[dc2k08]

i have become sort of worried as of late as to the content of the e-liquid i consume. im worried that they might be flavoured with oils..this is a big no, no right? also i know one seller who quoted me that the nicotene in our carts is extracted as an essential oil from the tobacco plant. is this true or s it mis-information? are essential oils different to normal oils? how are the carts injected with nicotene? is essential oil nicotene the same as pure nicotene, the type that kills you if you have one drop on your skin?

i guess a simple test would be to drop some on a tissue or kitchen towel and see if it all evaporates. anyone know any others?

also, i remember i saw some 0 nic carts being sold as health carts that contained vitamins. one of them was vitamin E. i think i remember someone on a thread saying this was dangerous as all vitamin E is an oil....is this true?

 

[Nazareth]

I'm not sure, but maybe squeeze a bit into some water and see if a slick is created o nthe surface- if so, you have an oil in the juice- but really, I'm sure we're breathign in oils just walking around in cities (and perhaps even the country when 'toxic clouds' float overhead- I'm also pretty sure we're breathign in oils when we smoke regular ciggs- not sure, but it seems there would be oils in tobacco itself. Could be wrong on that though

Personally I'd stay away from as much oils as possible- I have sleep apnea and had to wear a CPAP mask (but can't now) and read abotu soem people adding essential oils to their machines- Ugggh- no thanks- not for me! I'm a smoker and esmoker, and that is abotu as much risk as I'm intentionally willing to take as far as inhaling crud goes. We just gotta make our minds up how much we're willing to inhale and make hte decision and stick with it or either that or quit altogether- As far as I'mn concerned, life is long enough already- I don't care to extend it any logner by moving toward 'healthy living'- but my case is unusual as I have soem ilnesses that make life yucky, and I don't want ot go any longer than necessary to be honest as things are only goign to get worse the longer I go. OK enough with hte gloom and doom- New topic

 

[dc2k08]

so naz, you dont think coating your lungs with oils is a big deal anyway? i thought it would be dangerous as the oils cant break down? but you know people who inhale essential oils all night long. are oils and essential oils the same thing?

 

[Nazareth]

I'm not sure if htey are the same- I think all oils are hte same, but some are labelled 'essential' because they infer some supposed health benifit- I could be wrong again, and don't know if 'essentials' mean they are also extracted differently, or have different chemical make-ups or what- but I wouldn't inhale essentials in the CPAP machine even htough it might not do anythign- but when it coems to smoking- I don't think about it and don't care myself. What is is and that is that as far as Im' concerned when it comes to gettign my nicotine fix, but again, I have a different outlook on life than some. I veiw the eciggs as containing 4000+ less chemicals, and think that's a very good thing, and if they still contain some potentially harmful stuff, it's certainly much much less than real smoking, and that's ok with me too. just an added extra bonus for switching- I'd probably still smoke the eciggs even if they had 2000 chemicals as opposed to the 4000+ of real ciggs as any reduction in chemicals I view as a good hting.

I've been loading up my lungs with crap for a few decades now, so reducing the crap by a magnitude of a Bazillion is a good thing in my book. If it still contains some icky stuff- oh well- Color me unconcerned. (Not that I'm uninterested, but just not concerned as I've never been one to seek 'good health' due to what I'm facing- if I can 'improve' things- then ok- I spose I'll go along with it, but if not, that's ok too- I'm still gonna smoke regardless.)

 

[Kate]

My understanding is that there already is oil/flavours extracted with oil in ready made eliquid. This is ecig.com's list of ingredients - https://e-cig.com/shopping/shopcontent.asp?type=certifications. They are the only company I have seen so far who are open and upfront about the ingredients in their liquid.

My impression is that there is going to be a small amount of oil in some flavours but the quantity doesn't warrant any concern if it's just used to extract the flavour. As long as the ingredients are food grade they shouldn't be too difficult for our bodies to 'digest'. The thing to be careful of is using large quantities of oil which would clog atomisers and are an unknown healthwise. Flavourings are extracts and propylene glycol or alcohol etc. The quantity of oil left from the extraction process is small. If you were to use essential oils then it would be a different ball game, much higher concentrations of oil being vapourised and inhaled.

 

[TropicalBob]

DC, remember that our forefathers studied in the light of oil lamps. My bet is that the air in their rooms had more oil in it than is in the vapor we inhale. And, yes, tobacco absolute is used in e-liquid -- and it's an oil, the essence of tobacco. Very little is needed, however. In general, avoid products with any oil base. But a tiny bit? Like Naz said, the air on the sidewalks of any city has a higher oil content.

 

[dc2k08]

well thanks for the imput guys. so i guess i am worried over little. inhaling oil based liquids is common enough to be not of concern. still though, can our lungs break down oil at all. is it ever removed from the lungs some way. i would hate to think that i am clogging up my lungs, just as im clogging up the atomizers...cant soak them in vinegar.

but like you say, im inhaling oil everyday just by pissing around on my 2 stroke 50cc. my city is filthy too. i have been meaning to purchase a gas mask for a while now. a recent study in my country also found that those living in the big cities had the lower life expectancy and an increased percentage of death by lung cancer. so when are they banning motorized vehicles?

 

[Mihai]

you shouldn't worry about the essential oils in the way you worry now (some of them are really dangerous, but not because they are oils )

Most of the aromas you inhale in any brand of cart are made with/from essential oils. Even the tobacco aroma is practically an essential oil.

The oils we must avoid are the oils used in commercial flavorings to dilute the essential oils or the aroma esters.

The confusion comes form the fact that 'oil' is a pretty generic term and because when you hear 'oil' you think it must be like the vegetable oil you use to cook.

An essential oil is much too concentrated to use in normal consumer flavoring - you'll need, let's say - 0.001 ml of rose oil to obtain 1 l of rose vodka Since this kind of quantities are hard to measure in a kitchen, and for price considerations (3kg rose petals yields only 1ml rose oil), solvents are used to dilute them.

depending on the specific proprieties of the essential oil (in what is soluble) they use as solvents water, alcohol, propylene glycol or oils (vegetable or nut oils - like Jojoba, Coconut, High-oleic Safflower, Olive oil, Sunflower oil, Almond oil, Avocado oil, Shea Butter, Cocoa Butter or Seaweed extracts).


So, you should use for vaping just those flavors diluted with anything else than oils. You can use essential oils but be prepared to measure very small quantities (see an example in jgtg's reply in http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-tobacco-nicotine-flavor-without-tobacco.html)