ItTechy, I didn't want to quote your entire post, I just wanted to thank you for saying it.
Anyone prefer 18350s over "650s?
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ItTechy, I didn't want to quote your entire post, I just wanted to thank you for saying it.
In theory you are correct but people don't abuse flashlights like people tend to abuse mods taking them to their absolute extreme.
This is a personal question based on what you feel comfortable holding, and how often you want to change batteries, no more no less.
I personally know that being a big guy (tall and large) and vaping like a fiend, I like the bigger batteries, but most women prefer the smaller mods, thus smaller batteries.
If you are using a good VV mod, the only real difference is going to be comfort (the size) and longevity of the battery based on capacity.
For instance:
The Pursmoker Icon', I love them, tiny, fit in your pocket, are not heavy, but they take a 14500 (like a AA size) battery, so I use these if I am going out on the town all dressed up and do not want to carry my Provari w/ the 18650 end cap.
Likewise many women prefer smaller mods because they fit in their pocket or purse much easier and don't weigh a ton, even with a couple of extra batteries.....
I personally know that being a big guy (tall and large) and vaping like a fiend, I like the bigger batteries, but most women prefer the smaller mods, thus smaller batteries.
If you are using a good VV mod, the only real difference is going to be comfort (the size) and longevity of the battery based on capacity.
For instance:
The Pursmoker Icon', I love them, tiny, fit in your pocket, are not heavy, but they take a 14500 (like a AA size) battery, so I use these if I am going out on the town all dressed up and do not want to carry my Provari w/ the 18650 end cap.
Likewise many women prefer smaller mods because they fit in their pocket or purse much easier and don't weigh a ton, even with a couple of extra batteries.....
Extrapolate this idea to the extreme. Take a 10.000 mah battery and pair it to a 100 mah battery. To keep them at the same voltage even tho the smaller battery depletes faster, the bigger battery is constantly charging the smaller one... with no regards to safe charging methods. At the same time the bigger battery discharge faster than intended... feeding your coil and the smaller battery at the same time.
What about mods that don't shut down when the two stacked batteries fall below 6.4v total (3.2v each)?
I believe the Vamo, which is designed to recognize the two stacked 350's, will behave properly, assuming the circuitry is still functioning within spec. But what about other systems? There's a whole thread in the Not Advised forum dealing with a guy who insisted on trying to stack 350's in a Provari. Even though that device is not designed for stacked mode.
Honest question: Would a mod not designed or intended to use a stacked configuration cheerfully deplete the cells? Which mods might be capable of doing this?
I believe the Vamo, which is designed to recognize the two stacked 350's, will behave properly, assuming the circuitry is still functioning within spec. But what about other systems? There's a whole thread in the Not Advised forum dealing with a guy who insisted on trying to stack 350's in a Provari. Even though that device is not designed for stacked mode.
Honest question: Would a mod not designed or intended to use a stacked configuration cheerfully deplete the cells? Which mods might be capable of doing this?
I recently bought a Vamo V3 as well.
20 minutes after ordering, I ordered 650 style batteries haha.
I'm a fan of longer life, and since this is my "mancave mod" and doesn't leave the house, I'm fine with it being on the larger size!
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20 minutes after ordering, I ordered 650 style batteries haha.
I'm a fan of longer life, and since this is my "mancave mod" and doesn't leave the house, I'm fine with it being on the larger size!
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You're able to fit a battery case in that tiny pocket?
I sincerely hope for your safety and the safety of anyone in your immediate vicinity that you're transporting your batteries safely.
As far as which do I prefer- 350s.
I have 4 button tops for my ProVari and I'm home most of the time so swapping batteries is a non-factor.
Sure I can only wish they last as long as a 650 but that thought only occurs to me when I'm out and have to carry an extra battery with me.
Normally I'm not away from home for hours but even still I make sure the one in my device is fully charged and the extra I'm carrying is fully charged.
I have a mech that can use 650's but I rarely extend it to that size.
Just FYI, a mod can only detect the total voltage of the two batteries. If one battery is 4.2v and the other is 3.2v, it will still detect 7.4v and assume everything is fine. This is why multi-cell battery packs for RC use have balancing plugs so the charger can measure each cell individually and make sure they all end up at 4.2v instead of a pack total of say 25.2v for a 6 cell pack. If the cells were far apart in voltage at beginning of charge, one could end up charging one cell way past 4.2v.
So I should write that the Vamo, which is designed to recognize the two stacked 350's, will behave properly, assuming the circuitry is still functioning within spec and the two batteries have an identical charge.
I'd still like to know what mods (if any) don't differentiate between a single 650 or stacked 350's and will take the cells down to an unchargeable and possibly unsafe state.
Getting back to the OP, my preference is for smaller, palmable mods using 18350's when I'm outside my home. The little Madvapes Gripper and Mini Touchwood are small, effective tools. A spare 18350 battery takes up little space, and at 1.5 - 2 ohms, a pair of AW IMR's can last me most of a day. I enjoy a number of my 18650 mods, but mainly at home or in the car, as convenience rules for me.
And yes going back to the Original Post……
I have both and I wear scrubs at the hospital, i tried 650’s and I was dropping it like crazy every time I lean forward or it was bringing my pants down when I had it on my back pocket…. stealth vape? none, every one saw the big tube. Also I have 2 big dogs, they move everything so the mechanical PV was dropping hard so I stayed with 350’s i have my Ithaka, terminator and AGA T2 on my mechanicals so they are small I can work fine and tape on the run being stealth at the same time and I have 2 at all times and it last me fine for 12 hrs could last more maybe but I am using a full charge from the time I leave home thru during work coming back put a new battery vapor hard after lucy and during the ride home until going to bed with out a problem.
here at home I have 6 350 and rotate them from the first one (the battery that is been longer out of the charger after a complete charge) I have always 3 or 4 and always 1 or 2 charging.
I have both and I wear scrubs at the hospital, i tried 650’s and I was dropping it like crazy every time I lean forward or it was bringing my pants down when I had it on my back pocket…. stealth vape? none, every one saw the big tube. Also I have 2 big dogs, they move everything so the mechanical PV was dropping hard so I stayed with 350’s i have my Ithaka, terminator and AGA T2 on my mechanicals so they are small I can work fine and tape on the run being stealth at the same time and I have 2 at all times and it last me fine for 12 hrs could last more maybe but I am using a full charge from the time I leave home thru during work coming back put a new battery vapor hard after lucy and during the ride home until going to bed with out a problem.
here at home I have 6 350 and rotate them from the first one (the battery that is been longer out of the charger after a complete charge) I have always 3 or 4 and always 1 or 2 charging.
I prefer 18350s because they charge (2 of them simultaneously) in about a third of the time it takes for a 18650 to do so.
They are probably lasting about the same time proportionately, so you are trading about 1/3 of total charge life for size and/or convenience.
That's reasonable.
That's reasonable.
buy one that has all 3 tubes and use what fits your needs at the time. If telescoping is not gaudy to you , can go that route 18> 350 , 500, 650
Put it to you this way. I have only used 18650s. I have 3 mods, the Lavatube V2, Provari, and a Shan Box Mod, and all three use 18650 batteries, and my box mod takes 2. So yeah. Battery life for the win!
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