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Has anyone sit down and talked with a lawyer face to face about any legal actions that we can take to stop the ban on e-cigarettes?

Maybe a civil case against all the the organisations that are endorsing these bans ...Anything..theres got to be some kind of legal action that we can take..I will go talk to a lawyer monday morning and see what they have to say...Unless someone has already talked to a lawyer.
 

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I'd LOVE for you to talk to a lawyer. The problem is finding a lawyer that will take on the case for free. I'm sure we could raise some funds, but the process would be extremely expensive even with a free lawyer. But we have to start somewhere and at least know what we are getting into. If I can be of any help, please let me know.
 

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While I am sure that there are lawyers on this forum with better opinions, I am just as sure that it would be so expensive to initiate and keep a Federal suit going that we'd all run out of money long before the case could be heard. Federal law is expensive. I think the current lawsuit that is about to be heard by the appeal Court will be very interesting no matter which way they decide. That case will bring out a lot of issues that might help e-cigarettes. One is the fact that I really don't think big tobacco wants the e-gigarette completely banned. And we all know that what big tobacco wants, they usually get.
 

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While I am sure that there are lawyers on this forum with better opinions, I am just as sure that it would be so expensive to initiate and keep a Federal suit going that we'd all run out of money long before the case could be heard. Federal law is expensive. I think the current lawsuit that is about to be heard by the appeal Court will be very interesting no matter which way they decide. That case will bring out a lot of issues that might help e-cigarettes. One is the fact that I really don't think big tobacco wants the e-gigarette completely banned. And we all know that what big tobacco wants, they usually get.

After they've run their competition out of the country....then they'll have this re-opened somehow and who knows what they'll put in their nic juice.8-o
 

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I am not a lawyer, but it seems to me there might be a case against states that ban e-cigs while still allowing the sale of tobacco products, much in the same way people sue big companies whose pollution of local water supplies leads to horrific cancer rates among those living nearby. That is to say, the banning of e-cigs and not tobacco implies that the states are endorsing cigarette smoking over vaping, despite the KNOWN dangers of smoking. It's like these ban-happy states would rather see people continue to risk major heath problems and eventual death in order to preserve tax revenue.

I know states like New York, which is currently about to ban e-cigs, have a fairly strong position in that there is insufficient testing data to really say, conclusively, that e-cigs are "safe" when compared with tobacco cigarettes. But it seems to me that their position is made significantly weaker when they don't ban tobacco in light of clear, non-refutable evidence of how dangerous it is.

Smoking has been proven to be an addiction. While many people have been able to successfully beat this addiction through various means, the fact is that many also have not been able to. Nicotine, whether delivered through burning tobacco or heated vapor, is the chemical that makes cigarettes addictive. So by banning one form of potentially harmless nicotine delivery system in favor of a government sanctioned, highly taxed, and very deadly nicotine delivery system seems legally grey.

I have a feeling there might be lawsuit potential as a result of these bans, even so far as to see it going to the Supreme Court. But again, I am not a lawyer.

Common sense tells me the state governments are acting improperly, but does common sense have a legal leg to stand on? I am not so sure.
 

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After I posted the last post I talked to our lawyer again and he recommends waiting on the outcome of the current case going on. I voiced all of our concerns but you have to have a valid grievance. Not one that just voices our fears of gripes about the different bans or seizures. I agree that if big tobacco ends up as the only legal e-cigarette that can be sold we are all in trouble because they will load up the liquid with all sorts of goodies to get everyone hooked just as they did analogs.
 
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